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[LeaveDA2alone]

"Oh, look another troll who has subscribed today.



How are you Mike? "



The more previews there are the more people will want to speak out. Doesn't make me a troll because i registered today.

[Piecake]

LeaveDA2alone wrote...

"Oh, look another troll who has subscribed today.

How are you Mike? "

The more previews there are the more people will want to speak out. Doesn't make me a troll because i registered today.

Viva la DAO!  Let's cruch the totalitarian abomination that is DA2!

[FedericoV]

LeaveDA2alone wrote...

The more previews there are the more people will want to speak out. Doesn't make me a troll because i registered today.

No, it makes you a troll because you were banned yesterday . I don't care a lot if people will rant or whine about DA2 previews. Everyone is free to express his opinion with his world and his wallet. If DA2 will turn out to be worst than I hope, I will express my opinion too.

[javierabegazo]

Discussion here needs to be about the Kotaku preview, and not about if someone is a 'troll' or not. If you suspect someone of trolling, send me or another moderator a pm, and we'll check out the post but do not derail this thread with personal squabbling like two kids in a lunch line.



Piecake, If I see more nonsense posts like the one above FedericoV's, you will get a temp ban. Put out the juvenile "resistance" torches. The best way to get an idea across is to be thoroughly articulate.

[joriandrake]

Ignoring all the personal opinions of that preview this remains:

"The bigger change, however, is that the game will no longer support an overhead tactical view on any platform."


Damn, so it is true, and already determined.

[Unknown Username]

joriandrake wrote...

Ignoring all the personal opinions of that preview this remains:

"The bigger change, however, is that the game will no longer support an overhead tactical view on any platform."


Damn, so it is true, and already determined.

Take a look earlier in the thread at the dev posts.  They stated that there's no dedicated overhead view, BUT you can stillzoom out and yaw the camera upwards and view from a near-overhead.  It's not quite the same, but it at least is somewhat similar.

[joriandrake]

Unknown Username wrote...

joriandrake wrote...

Ignoring all the personal opinions of that preview this remains:

"The bigger change, however, is that the game will no longer support an overhead tactical view on any platform."


Damn, so it is true, and already determined.

Take a look earlier in the thread at the dev posts.  They stated that there's no dedicated overhead view, BUT you can stillzoom out and yaw the camera upwards and view from a near-overhead.  It's not quite the same, but it at least is somewhat similar.

as you said: it is not the same


I never "zoomed out just a bit", I either used full tactical view (for battles) or 3rd person

[MerinTB]

AlanC9 wrote...
There's nothing wrong with saying that another game isn't as much fun for you as BG. But that's not a useful or interesting statement unless you can also articulate why.

Not wanting to touch this thread dominated by people I really care not to talk with anymore, but there is one small thing I think needs correcting here.

And though I'm sure someone will twist it into something annoying, here I go anyway.

I've never even finished Baldur's Gate.  It is not a favorite game of my by any stretch of the imagination.  So, to be clear, this wasn't some "hidden agenda" thing by me about BG being the best game ever.  That's an argument you'll never see me make.

Back out - go back to discussing cheese and misunderstanding how analogies work.

[Onyx Jaguar]

I AGREE WITH EVERYONE

[Monica83]

Thanks moderator i really tired of people that calls you doomsayer or troll if you don't like something.. I imange for this people is silly share opinions and prefear to hear the "cool" word.. Well for me DAO is cool DA2 is bad im sorry for this but i have enought motivations to say that...

[ErichHartmann]

Monica83 wrote...

Thanks moderator i really tired of people that calls you doomsayer or troll if you don't like something.. I imange for this people is silly share opinions and prefear to hear the "cool" word.. Well for me DAO is cool DA2 is bad im sorry for this but i have enought motivations to say that...

Hard to call a game you haven't played bad. 

[LexXxich]

The way camera floats around the battle field when placing AoE spell, as seen in demo. Why can't it be a toggle? Mechanism is already there. Then people who want close view on action can have it, and people who want a broader view on battlefield (not on characters) can have it too.

[Xewaka]

ErichHartmann wrote...

Hard to call a game you haven't played bad. 

It might be more accurate to say that so far, the information given to us about DA:2 gives out the feeling that it will be worse than DA:O.

Also, if you have to actually play/read/watch whatever to make an opinion, you'll be either pirating a lot or misspending a lot of money. There should be enough information to make an informed decision before making a purchase. Right now, based on what we know so far, I'm refraining from preordering. The game is losing too much of what made Origins a breath of fresh air amongst the sludge of gunmetal grey space marines that permeates the medium.

[ErichHartmann]

If my gut tells me not to pre-order then I wait for reviews and read forums to see what people are saying about a finished product. Gameplay footage gets me a little excited before release but I certainly don't form an opinion around hype. And the major reason I pre-order BioWare games is because they haven't let me down yet.....

/shrugs

Modifié par ErichHartmann, 19 novembre 2010 - 06:26 .

[Xewaka]

ErichHartmann wrote...

If my gut tells me not to pre-order then I wait for reviews and read forums to see what people are saying about a finished product. Gameplay footage gets me a little excited before release but I certainly don't form an opinion around hype. And the major reason I pre-order BioWare games is because they haven't let me down yet.....

/shrugs

Fair enough. I know I've preordered stuff based on a gut feeling that I ended up regretting buying, so I'm a bit more cautious now.

[Monica83]

Well Erich the DA2 feature seems more a DEMO than a finished product....

[Sylvius the Mad]

Unknown Username wrote...

Take a look earlier in the thread at the dev posts.  They stated that there's no dedicated overhead view, BUT you can stillzoom out and yaw the camera upwards and view from a near-overhead.  It's not quite the same, but it at least is somewhat similar.

If the camera can't move freely (as it could in DAO), then no, it's not similar at all.

And Mike says the camera is always anchored to the currently controlled character.  That's a change, and it's a big one.

[slimgrin]

Sylvius the Mad wrote...

Unknown Username wrote...

Take a look earlier in the thread at the dev posts.  They stated that there's no dedicated overhead view, BUT you can stillzoom out and yaw the camera upwards and view from a near-overhead.  It's not quite the same, but it at least is somewhat similar.

If the camera can't move freely (as it could in DAO), then no, it's not similar at all.

And Mike says the camera is always anchored to the currently controlled character.  That's a change, and it's a big one.

I thought he said we were able to move it around the battlefield.

[Ravenfeeder]

I've picked on one quote becasue I'm not going to go through a whole day's posts when I've just come back from a long day at work.  I'm tired, hungry and in need of a beer and probably shouldn't be posting in this mood.

FedericoV wrote...
Most removed features are replaced with new features.

Bioware has choosen to invest in storytelling, immersion, graphical identity, action and overall accessibility for DA2.

And there's my problem.  The UI changes in particular are making it less accessible for me.  I want to be immersed in the world and story the writers have created, I don't want to fight the UI to get to it.  The dialogue wheel means I have to concentrate on the mechanic instead of the words and the lack of iso view means that I'll have to concentrate on getting the right views of the battlefield instead of zooming out and understanding everything at a glance.

This is my leisure time, no part of it should be hard work.

[Dave of Canada]

Monica83 wrote...

Well Erich the DA2 feature seems more a DEMO than a finished product....

There hasn't been official gameplay released yet, they are demoing the game and you say the game feels more like a demo?

What?

[Estel78]

Xewaka wrote...

The game is losing too much of what made Origins a breath of fresh air amongst the sludge of gunmetal grey space marines that permeates the medium.

DA2 has space marines?! 

[Estel78]

Ravenfeeder wrote...

I want to be immersed in the world and story the writers have created, I don't want to fight the UI to get to it.  The dialogue wheel means I have to concentrate on the mechanic instead of the words

[...]

This is my leisure time, no part of it should be hard work.

I wish i had as much fun at work as when playing Mass Effect...

You can't get much more intuitive than the dialog wheel.

[nightcobra]

Estel78 wrote...

Xewaka wrote...

The game is losing too much of what made Origins a breath of fresh air amongst the sludge of gunmetal grey space marines that permeates the medium.

DA2 has space marines?! 

don't you know that this is the bonus character of the Signature edition?


/sarcasm

Modifié par nightcobra8928, 19 novembre 2010 - 07:44 .

[Estel78]

nightcobra8928 wrote...

don't you know that this is the bonus character of the Signature edition?


/sarcasm

*preorders DA2*