Dave of Canada wrote...
the_one_54321 wrote...
No, when you zoomed all the way out to tactical view the camera was completely free. I think it was only for the PC version. But it's kind of a big deal. Kind of a really big deal.
Nope. I'm on the PC version right now and it's not.
joriandrake wrote...
um it is, but the camera setting can be changed, I guess you did
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filaminstrel wrote...
This is probably a dumb question, but do you ever move your mouse to the edge of the screen?
AlanC9 wrote...
Are we maybe working with different definitions of "free movement" here?
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Dave of Canada wrote...
filaminstrel wrote...
This is probably a dumb question, but do you ever move your mouse to the edge of the screen?
Yes, it only brings the screen more to the left / right but the camera still remains locked on my character.
filaminstrel wrote...
It sounds like Mike is saying the camera will be fixed with your character at the center of the screen though, where edgescrolling causes the camera to rotate around said character rather than move straight in the desired direction.
Modifié par Dave of Canada, 20 novembre 2010 - 11:14 .
Dave of Canada wrote...
filaminstrel wrote...
If it's still like that in DA2 then, that's good. It sounds like Mike is saying the camera will be fixed with your character at the center of the screen though, where edgescrolling causes the camera to rotate around said character rather than move straight in the desired direction.
Yeah, that's what I think too. I was just saying "No" to the completely free tactical camera.
AbounI wrote...
Do you mean "no, I don't want a free tactical camera" or "no it is not a comptletely free camera"?
Dave of Canada wrote...
AbounI wrote...
Do you mean "no, I don't want a free tactical camera" or "no it is not a comptletely free camera"?
#2.
I do exactly that all the time. There's a bit of a limit on how far away I can go, and if I select a character the camera will center on that person before letting me move around again. But I can move the camera around.Dave of Canada wrote...
What I'm thinking is the way you could look around the entire map / area in Icewind Dale / Baldur's Gate, unlocked from your party.
Gibb_Shepard wrote...
NIIIICE. I love the fact that they catered to the console gamers this time round, could not stand DAO's combat.
JohnEpler wrote...
Continue with the PC elitism at your own risk.
Enjoying games (that's right, they are games, we are not talking about microsurgery) on one platform versus another does not mark you as being of superior intellect and/or taste.
If you want to continue to pretend that it does, you won't be doing it on these forums. I'm tired of this elitist garbage.
Saibh wrote...
Gibb_Shepard wrote...
NIIIICE. I love the fact that they catered to the console gamers this time round, could not stand DAO's combat.
I know, those console gamers with inferior intellect, isn't it so great to be a PC gamer and therefore smarter than anyone else who dares enjoy games?
I'd love it if I were smart like you.
Gibb_Shepard wrote...
..................What?
Your beginning sentence seems to give off the impression that you are bashing PC gamers via sarcasm, and then at the end you seem to imply that i'm a PC gamer?
I thought my post was pretty straight forward in giving the impression that i like the fact that DA2 will be catered to consoles, and that i myself am a console gamer.
This sentance is what makes you sound like an elitist.Doctorfun wrote...
JohnEpler wrote...
Continue with the PC elitism at your own risk.
Enjoying games (that's right, they are games, we are not talking about microsurgery) on one platform versus another does not mark you as being of superior intellect and/or taste.
If you want to continue to pretend that it does, you won't be doing it on these forums. I'm tired of this elitist garbage.
I respectfully have to point out you're out of line!
Sure, implying console players are stupid is not a very nice thing to do, but it seems to be just a way of expressing frustration, through personalization, over an issue that is undeniable and for which Bioware is as responsible as the next multi-platform game company: PC games are being dumbed-down and losing sophistication and innovative game design to accommodate for the console market, which sports younger and generally less inclined to brain use while gaming customers. Does it mean console users are dumber? No, it means they seek a different kind of experience, but the PC game market is suffering from it, older, more sophisticated players are getting frustrated over it and express their frustration in occasionally inappropriate ways. It's not PC elitism as you put it (and you're showing bias when you do so), but it's undeniable that PC gamers are, on average, more mature, more sophisticated, more demanding and more inclined to games that challenge their brains and not their reflexes.
I have to say you're doing a poor job as a moderator expressing yourself in the way you did and your biased attitude is as negative as the one you were "moderating".
Modifié par Atakuma, 21 novembre 2010 - 04:08 .
Doctorfun wrote...
JohnEpler wrote...
Continue with the PC elitism at your own risk.
Enjoying games (that's right, they are games, we are not talking about microsurgery) on one platform versus another does not mark you as being of superior intellect and/or taste.
If you want to continue to pretend that it does, you won't be doing it on these forums. I'm tired of this elitist garbage.
I respectfully have to point out you're out of line!
Sure, implying console players are stupid is not a very nice thing to do, but it seems to be just a way of expressing frustration, through personalization, over an issue that is undeniable and for which Bioware is as responsible as the next multi-platform game company: PC games are being dumbed-down and losing sophistication and innovative game design to accommodate for the console market, which sports younger and generally less inclined to brain use while gaming customers. Does it mean console users are dumber? No, it means they seek a different kind of experience, but the PC game market is suffering from it, older, more sophisticated players are getting frustrated over it and express their frustration in occasionally inappropriate ways. It's not PC elitism as you put it (and you're showing bias when you do so), but it's undeniable that PC gamers are, on average, more mature, more sophisticated, more demanding and more inclined to games that challenge their brains and not their reflexes.
I have to say you're doing a poor job as a moderator expressing yourself in the way you did and your biased attitude is as negative as the one you were "moderating".
Doctorfun wrote...
I'm sorry if stating facts makes you feel I'm elitist. Elitism would be me stating that, because of that, PC gamers are superior or better. I didn't say that, I merely pointed out differences that are acknowledged by the market and design community. I could also state that console players have faster reflexes, excel at button-multi-tasking, or any number of other things, but since I'm sort of complaining about the "normalization" the PC game market has been suffering, it's normal that I stress the reasons why PC gamers are angry.
Anyway, for the record, I don't think PC gamers are superior, but I do think that PC games are superior and I regret it is going down the drain, by the hand of the very same companies that built that superiority. If that makes me elitist, so be it.
It is odd since its a console preview and not a pc one.Orizont wrote...
Does anyone else find it amusing how many times he repeats that the PC version will not be over-simplified? That pretty much seems to be the gist of the entire preview.
"Methinks thou dost protest too much."
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