In the desktop icon of "my pc"... righclick>properties>advanced options>click in the "config" button under "performance" > advanced options > and the "change" button under "virtual memory"
Return of the freezing creatures!
Débuté par
Jedijax
, nov. 18 2010 02:24
#26
Posté 05 décembre 2010 - 08:18
#27
Posté 05 décembre 2010 - 11:31
I've been reading lots of articles and reviews on this issue, and opinions seem quite divided. First, there are those who say you shouldn't tweak these values; then, there are those who say you should change the pagefile size, but NOT disable it; last, there are the techie inbetweeners. These guys are even more diverse in opinions. Some say you should adjust the size in proportion to the size of your HD; others say you should do so on proportion to your RAM capacity; and there are even some who say it has to be balanced in ratios that take both into account.
So, to sum it up, I'm running on windows 7 (32 bits... yeah yeah, I have 6 gigs of RAM waiting for the 64 bits version, but I would need a new HD for a clean install...) with 4 gigs of RAM; this means, Windows only recognizes 3.3 gigs, So according to what seemed to be the most sensible explanation, I changed the pagefile size from 3.340 megabytes to 5.000 on starting, and 6.000 on maximum values, an average of 1gig RAM x 1.5 gig pagefile.
I don't know if this are convenient and efficient values for my particular system, so I hope you could give me some hints. Right now, I have loads of HD space. The system HD where the pagefile is installed has about 200 free gigs on a regular basis, and I also have another disk installed (practically empty) with 276 free gigs. Just some technicalities, so you may get a broader sense of my situation and how best to use the resources at hand...
So, to sum it up, I'm running on windows 7 (32 bits... yeah yeah, I have 6 gigs of RAM waiting for the 64 bits version, but I would need a new HD for a clean install...) with 4 gigs of RAM; this means, Windows only recognizes 3.3 gigs, So according to what seemed to be the most sensible explanation, I changed the pagefile size from 3.340 megabytes to 5.000 on starting, and 6.000 on maximum values, an average of 1gig RAM x 1.5 gig pagefile.
I don't know if this are convenient and efficient values for my particular system, so I hope you could give me some hints. Right now, I have loads of HD space. The system HD where the pagefile is installed has about 200 free gigs on a regular basis, and I also have another disk installed (practically empty) with 276 free gigs. Just some technicalities, so you may get a broader sense of my situation and how best to use the resources at hand...
Modifié par Jedijax, 05 décembre 2010 - 11:35 .
#28
Posté 06 décembre 2010 - 01:35
Windows uses the page file to simulate more ram memory (so theoretically, means the bigger, the better
) but Windows most of the time is a little stupid (surprise surprise xD) and uses the page file when you have tons of ram memory free. This is a problem because the bigger the page file is, the system will use less the ram memory. Try to imagine a balance with the ram memory and in the opposite side the page file. The page file must be used to compensate the lack of ram memory if you have little but if you have a lot... it will become useless and almost a nuisance.
If you disable the page file, windows will be forced to use all the ram memory which means that it will be faster (as I said in other post) BUT you must have a considerable amount of ram because if Windows runs out of ram memory the system will be much slower.
With 3gb of ram memory I suppose that you could do it perfectly in windows 7 and if you are wrong you can always enable again the page file, isn't it?
For example, I use windows xp, I have 2gb of ram memory and the page file disabled (I have 1TB of hdd but I don't want to waste it
) and everything is ok.
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EDIT: corrected some typos (this is what happens when you are half asleep xD)
If you disable the page file, windows will be forced to use all the ram memory which means that it will be faster (as I said in other post) BUT you must have a considerable amount of ram because if Windows runs out of ram memory the system will be much slower.
With 3gb of ram memory I suppose that you could do it perfectly in windows 7 and if you are wrong you can always enable again the page file, isn't it?
For example, I use windows xp, I have 2gb of ram memory and the page file disabled (I have 1TB of hdd but I don't want to waste it
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EDIT: corrected some typos (this is what happens when you are half asleep xD)
Modifié par Xenovant, 06 décembre 2010 - 01:39 .
#29
Posté 06 décembre 2010 - 05:46
So... would you say my proportional settings are correct, or should I change them? You mentioned having a big pagefile might also affect performance negatively, which I read in other forums and articles. I would like to get it right.
After posting my previous comment, I read some more about this, and most knowledgeable users recommend one sets a single value in both the starting and maximum options, so I changed them both to 6144 megabytes, for it seems your numbers must grow in multiples or something like that. However, Windows recommends I use 4990... So, what is the "right" choice?
After posting my previous comment, I read some more about this, and most knowledgeable users recommend one sets a single value in both the starting and maximum options, so I changed them both to 6144 megabytes, for it seems your numbers must grow in multiples or something like that. However, Windows recommends I use 4990... So, what is the "right" choice?
Modifié par Jedijax, 06 décembre 2010 - 05:47 .
#30
Posté 06 décembre 2010 - 11:48
Well... setting different values to the starting and maximun options is almost useless because before you know it, the page file will be at it's maximum xD
Normally leaving the "windows recomended" settings is ok but if you experience negative performance is advisable to tweak it. The best way to know the best page file size is experimenting.
Other way to tweak it, is dividing the page file in various hard disks (if you have more than 1).
There is a program called "speedupmypc" (the company is called "uniblue") that does everything automatically but you must pay it *cough cough*
Normally leaving the "windows recomended" settings is ok but if you experience negative performance is advisable to tweak it. The best way to know the best page file size is experimenting.
Other way to tweak it, is dividing the page file in various hard disks (if you have more than 1).
There is a program called "speedupmypc" (the company is called "uniblue") that does everything automatically but you must pay it *cough cough*
Modifié par Xenovant, 06 décembre 2010 - 11:50 .
#31
Posté 06 décembre 2010 - 08:23
Hehe... as enjoyable and interesting this pagefile thing is, it doesn't seem to affect my "freezing-on-activate-script" problem. Nonetheless, thanks, Xenovant, for bringing it up. I still think the issue may be related to disk write/swap, so your input may not be far off target!
Modifié par Jedijax, 06 décembre 2010 - 08:23 .
#32
Posté 07 décembre 2010 - 02:05
Well... at least is another thing discarded xD
Have you tried any system optimization program for gaming? I recomend you GameBooster
Have you tried any system optimization program for gaming? I recomend you GameBooster
#33
Posté 07 décembre 2010 - 07:13
Actually I did try two of them, including gamebooster, but it seems their optimizations work by disabling redundant or pasive windows services which are not needed while you play. The thing is, one of the first things I did when the freezing started was download an app which disables/stops all unnecessary services, so there isn't much left to "optimize". In my tests, the issue wasn't solved by this or the aforementioned optimizers. You are correct, however, it is one more thing already checked in the list. Hopefully after so trying many things, eventually I may reach the core of the problem!
#34
Posté 13 décembre 2010 - 10:34
So... let's phrase the issue in a different way: Does anyone know why I could be having freeze-framing whenever a script fires up, like say, creature spawns, encounter spawns, merchant inventory opening, container inventory opening, spell casting?
Same rules apply. By this, I mean the thing certainly worsens the more custom content I add, but is not caused by such, for it exists even on clean installs of the game. Some have suggested it is related to disk swap/reading, but after several tests, it seems unlikely...
Same rules apply. By this, I mean the thing certainly worsens the more custom content I add, but is not caused by such, for it exists even on clean installs of the game. Some have suggested it is related to disk swap/reading, but after several tests, it seems unlikely...





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