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[Onyx Jaguar]

Rumormill states that it is not the main studio doing it as well, so I would assume that Galaxy was made to profit off the booming Iphone market while this one is being made I would guess as to take advantage of ME 2 going across platform. Its harder to translate ME into a handheld game directly unlike what we see with the DA spinoffs.



If it is a ME game that is.

[Jaron Oberyn]

kraidy1117 wrote...

Drasill wrote...

I guess Mass Effect 2 was still too complicated for people...

Huh?

Bioware dumbed down ME2 because ME1 was apparently too sophisticated of an RPG for the shooter fans. So now it seems like the shooter fans are getting an FPS game. Another mindless shooter. What would life be like without yet another one of those? Good job Bioware.

-Polite

[Onyx Jaguar]

Oh good god I'd rather have something that plays well than something that has RPG elements just for the sake of having them

[Jaron Oberyn]

Onyx Jaguar wrote...

Oh good god I'd rather have something that plays well than something that has RPG elements just for the sake of having them

So your more worried about the gameplay mechanics than the story then?

-Polite

[Onyx Jaguar]

Not anymore

[Sursion]

mrsph wrote...

Onyx Jaguar wrote...

Oh good god I'd rather have something that plays well than something that has RPG elements just for the sake of having them

Too late. We're having a huge inventory and a thousand generic weapons that fire and look the same.

Also you have to remember to drink water and the Normandy travels in real time.

ME2 was all about 'Big Choices' and 'Visceral Combat'

Modifié par Sursion, 19 novembre 2010 - 12:33 .

[PissedofatEA]

my guess is it takes place during the first contact wars. makes the most sense and we haven't seen anything from that, just stories from our companions.
I might get it, but if I hear one pre-pubescent teen yelling at me at how im a camping noob ****, I'll rip the speakers out of my tv.

[Sursion]

You know what would be cool? A survival gametype. You and some other players have to survive as long as you can on Akuze against Thresher Maws.

[Onyx Jaguar]

Yeah Pinnacle Station actually would have worked better if it was multiplayer



Something like that I have been wanting to see in action just to see if it would work

[Archereon]

I'm actually thinking that Bioware plans to split up the Mass Effect series into a pure shooter and a more RPG oriented game in the form of the main trilogy.



Of course, they could just be pulling a Halo on us and planning to dump thousands of spin-offs and prequels on us. Even worse, they could combine it with a Metroid, never advancing the plot past the most recent (chronologically game) one for no specified reason.

[Angel-Shinkiro]

mrsph wrote...

Onyx Jaguar wrote...

Oh good god I'd rather have something that plays well than something that has RPG elements just for the sake of having them

Too late. We're having a huge inventory and a thousand generic weapons that fire and look the same.

Also you have to remember to drink water and the Normandy travels in real time.

Awesome!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Nah, that sucks.

[FuturePasTimeCE]

was that guy sniping at shepard?

[aksoileau]

I wonder what comes first... ME3 or this new project

[HK-90210]

This whole thing about a new game is a conspiracy! They're trying to disract us from the fact that it has been two months since any mention of new DLC!



Naww... but this new game will be Mass Effect related.

[xxSgt_Reed_24xx]

Sklibbles wrote...

I know that I'm more than willing to welcome it, provided that it's done well and not hashed together for purely cash-grabbing purposes.

The problem is... that's exactly what it will be, remember they work for EA and how many great shooters have been put out by EA? Not many.

Plus, yeah... it may bring in a lot more fans for ME3, which will give them more excuses like, "oh we don't want to confuse the newbs!" .... look for more content that we wanted to see get cut for more asplosions and badassery. =/

Oh and btw, I'm a huge shooter fan. (I play CoD, Gears, Halo, etc a lot...) That being said, I bought these games for the RPG aspect of them (don't get me wrong, the combat in ME2 was great and I hope it's put into ME3, but I still want story, characters, choices, exploration, DIALOGUE, etc) not for the shooter-ness or the actionz! 

[szkasypcze]

IT'S NOT A MULTIPLAYER!!!! CONFIRMED



I have spoken to a guy, who knows a guy, who is a son of a guy, wh knows some men that know someone who has 100% sure info that the trailer shows Legion after he is transformed into human.

[szkasypcze]

HOW do you all know that it is multiplayer???

[wookieeassassin]

A different team is working on the rumoured title. The Mass Effect 3 team isn't working on it, the Old Republic team isn't working on it, the Dragon Age team isn't working on it.

Well, considering this rumor is true, I don't really care. Let me rephrase that: I don't really care as long as it doesn't affect the series in general or is a sign of Bioware moving towards the shooter genre in the future. If the game keeps the shooter fans happy so that there isn't as much complaining about ME3 being more of an RPG then that would be great. However, all it may do is whet their appetite. Hopefully since there are separate teams though Mass Effect 3 won't take any longer and the shooter won't be able to influence it because it would be difficult to change the fighting mechanics so far into developing ME3.

Listen though, I'm not against shooters. I like shooters, even FPS ones, myself. I just don't want Mass Effect to be one. RPGs, even ones like Mass Effect that are hybrid genres (where Dragon Age would be more of a "pure" RPG) are fairly rare compared to first person shooters, at least from what I see. A shooter is something I rent, play through the 8 hour campaign, play the multiplayer for a little bit and I'm done with it. I don't expect the story to be particularly good, although shooters definitely can have good stories.

The thing is though is that I mostly prefer single player games that have good stories. RPG stories are different from shooter stories most of the time because you don't play the game level by level. They are different. You have to talk to people, do some problem solving, upgrade your equipment as you go along, get immersed in the world, etc. Shooters rarely include those things. Even FPS/RPG hybrids like STALKER are a little light on RPG stuff (still good though).

I don't want every game I play to be a shooter. I just don't. I don't want all my movies to be macho action movies either. Its about variety. I can't think of any other companies that mainly work on RPGs that aren't Bioware or Bethesda, and even the newer Fallout games are leaning more towards shooter than RPG (from what I've seen, I haven't played them so I could just be full of ****). I'm not saying Bioware couldn't make a good shooter either. I just don't want everything to be a FPS.

Mass Effect 3 needs to be a RPG/TPS, with emphasis on the RPG being first. It is what makes it unique, different from everything else on the market. The Bioware team has done so much work crafting an interesting and believable sci-fi universe, so of course there should be spinoffs. I'm just not so sure a "major" spinoff is what is needed before ME3 is even out. Mass Effect: Galaxy doesn't really count as a spinoff since its, you know, an iPhone game. Other spinoffs though seem like a generally good idea. The universe they've created is too interesting to just let it die after 3 games. I know it isn't Star Wars, but the Star Wars extended universe stuff has been going on for years and years now.

Bioware didn't need to remove/streamline the RPG elements from the first game, they just needed to revamp them. One of the major problems with the inventory is that there was no grouping whatsoever. Snipers should have had their own tab, pistols, shotguns, assault rifles the same. Armor for different races should have been in its own group. Instead, it was all shoved into a simple list that took forever to sift through, even if you sold a lot of it as you went along. Some of the changes they made for ME2 did improve the series from the original though, so you can't say that it "dumbed it down".

Also, they don't need to be doing anymore DLC for ME2 as far as I am concerned. They should use their resources to focus on ME3. I don't want to have to buy  DLC in order to get more of the story that is going to be at least somewhat important in ME3. Anything that continues the main story needs to be in ME3. If they are going to release DLC for ME2 it should at least not have any major plot parts that are must know/good to know in order to play ME2.

Modifié par wookieeassassin, 19 novembre 2010 - 03:22 .

[Zweebs]

PoliteAssasin wrote...

kraidy1117 wrote...

Drasill wrote...

I guess Mass Effect 2 was still too complicated for people...

Huh?

Bioware dumbed down ME2 because ME1 was apparently too sophisticated of an RPG for the shooter fans. So now it seems like the shooter fans are getting an FPS game. Another mindless shooter. What would life be like without yet another one of those? Good job Bioware.

-Polite

Seriously polite? They didn't "dumb it down" because it was too sophisticated, but because the game was better off without all that crap. Quite frankly... calling an fps mindless when you know nothing about it? Now that is mindless. 
Oh well I guess Bioware sucks now.... you might as well not even pick up ME3 since you clearly dislike games that us small minded folk like.

[maxut85]

PoliteAssasin wrote...

kraidy1117 wrote...

Drasill wrote...

I guess Mass Effect 2 was still too complicated for people...

Huh?

Bioware dumbed down ME2 because ME1 was apparently too sophisticated of an RPG for the shooter fans. So now it seems like the shooter fans are getting an FPS game. Another mindless shooter. What would life be like without yet another one of those? Good job Bioware.

-Polite

Bioware did not "dumb down" the rpg elements because It was too complicated. That is a hilarious and stupid argument. Many people including me enjoyed ME 2 way more than ME 1. And it wasn't because the rpg elements were to complicated in ME 1. They managed to create a great shooting/rpg hybrid witch got both higher reviews (highest of any rpg this generation) and better sales. They did this without any shooter experience whatsoever. I think thats sort of impressive.

[MisterDyslexo]

I bet people would stop doom-saying it if it were a whole game dedicated to Virmire Survivor. DLC is for wimps, expansion packs is where its at. Seriously though, its not like we're really getting stabbed in the back. Bioware is by far one of the, if not the best game developer I, and probably most of you, have even had the pleasure of dealing with. I remember when everybody saw the alpha of Mass Effect (1) and a lot of people were all like "NOOO! How could you do this?!" and cry like babies. Bioware can and has pulled off gameplay change to great success. They've obviously pulled off multi-player before (Baulder's Gate won a few awards), and they've got shooter down, albeit the RPG elements are a bit shaky. They know what they're doing, and best off all, they actually listen to US, not just sales. There will be fan service flowing out like an Irishman's bladder in a bathroom on St. Patrick's Day (no offense to the Irish intended, just a metaphor) all meant for us, making the game worthwhile. They've already took enough criticism from us on both ME1 and ME2's combat to set it to a tasteful medium. They know that we love interaction with deep characters and plot-they've been the kings of it for years. I don't see why nobody has any faith in them, why everybody is all up in arms and saying things like "boycott".

I suspect this may be due to backlash from ME2, and the "disappointment". Yes, BW didn't use their best judgment when going ahead with plot, but every other change, whether you feel positive or negative, was very ambitious and thought-out. Even with a slightly flimsy plot by BW's standards, it is still unparalleled by anything else out there, and the nobody can argue that ME2 had an amazing amount of character depth. A few human errors doesn't make the game a piece of ****, it means that BW, the (IMO) best game developer out there, which is miles ahead of anybody else, still has a lot to look forward to.

And I have to ask this completely genuine question to finish this off. Whats so bad about multiplayer? Really? I myself play single-player almost exclusively, and rarely find a multi-player game I enjoy, but that mean its bad, does it? There are a lot of really good games that have won awards for its great gameplay between single-player & multi-player (Unreal comes to mind).

Modifié par MisterDyslexo, 19 novembre 2010 - 05:01 .

[Darth_Trethon]

Multiplayer of any kind beyond two person coop can only mean one thing for ANY game: its death. There is no such thing as "good" or "well done" multiplayer. If this is single player as Kotaku says then that's great....there may yet be hope for it.....but if it is multiplayer then we can all safely and without second thoughts berry the title forever no matter what they call it.

[Silentmode]

A lot of the post that have been put up seem to imply (to me at least, forgive me if I'm wrong) that if they were to add MP into the series, the single player would then be all but forgotten. Even if this rumored game does have multiplayer, who says that is going to automatically nullify their ability to have a great single player experience similiar to what we have seen from the ME series. Will it be as extensive and long, maybe not since the natural order of game development is if you put something in something else may be left out but I trust BW's ability to use their resources wisely and make it a good experience. Bioware was built on storytelling, I seriously doubt they are all of the sudden gonna say "Hey guys, lets go completely against everything this company stands for and make a straightforward online shooter set in the ME universe with no semblence of a story."



I hate reiterating it for like the 4th time but Uncharted 2 is the best example I can give. It has a good multiplayer with a lot of variation, but it also has a story that puts 90% of Hollywood's work these days to shame.

You can have both a good story and good multiplayer, most companies just aren't very good at doing it.



@MisterDyslexo, I think there is a good chance it may be an expansion. ME2 has been nominated for multiple awards in various categories at the VGA's, it would be the perfect time to announce an expansion for the game.

[BluSoldier]

Elite Midget wrote...

The Audience is already there. It will lead to an easy cash in while attracting CoD Fans towards the ME Universe.

However... It'll be a sad day when CoD fans flood these forums and wars break out between the two different crowds.

It will ruin this forum.  The COD fans always ruin the forums. 
Look what happened to the Halo community after Reach came out.
Every thread you see here will be a complaint thread.  Just wait.