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[Wulfram]

Sten says there aren't, just like there female qunari warriors.  Occupations being seperated by gender makes sense when it's something you learn, but magic is something you're born with.  Maybe it's a trait of the Qunari race, but then what about human and elvish Qunari?

Do the Qunari kill female mages at birth?

[JrayM16]

I imagine that Qunari gender roles are so strict that even a female with innate magical ability would not be able to practice magic.

[David Gaider]

Wulfram wrote...
Sten says there aren't, just like there female qunari warriors.  Occupations being seperated by gender makes sense when it's something you learn, but magic is something you're born with.  Maybe it's a trait of the Qunari race, but then what about human and elvish Qunari?

Do the Qunari kill female mages at birth?

Sten does not say there are no female qunari mages.

He says they don't fight.

[Wulfram]

In a banter with Leliana, he says that there are no female mages



Leliana: Do you mean your people have no female mages or warriors?

Sten: Of course not. Why would our women wish to be men?

[Lord Gremlin]

You got it wrong. There are female Qunari mages. But you see for Qunari a mage is a "saarebas" - a dangerous object, not a person. So naturally Sten says there are no female Qunari mages. Because they are not considered Qunari females, they're considered saarebas. Saarebas are just things no matter what gender they are.

As for warriors females in Qun simple never assigned to that role.

[PsychoBlonde]

David Gaider wrote...

Wulfram wrote...
Sten says there aren't, just like there female qunari warriors.  Occupations being seperated by gender makes sense when it's something you learn, but magic is something you're born with.  Maybe it's a trait of the Qunari race, but then what about human and elvish Qunari?

Do the Qunari kill female mages at birth?

Sten does not say there are no female qunari mages.

He says they don't fight.

Actually, due to the way the conversation is worded, it kind of sounds like he's saying there are no female Qunari mages--but it's not like he'd give a damn if you got the wrong impression or anything.

He also, when you talk to him about mages, refers to them persistantly as beasts in the shape of men.

[Herr Uhl]

PsychoBlonde wrote...

David Gaider wrote...

Wulfram wrote...
Sten says there aren't, just like there female qunari warriors.  Occupations being seperated by gender makes sense when it's something you learn, but magic is something you're born with.  Maybe it's a trait of the Qunari race, but then what about human and elvish Qunari?

Do the Qunari kill female mages at birth?

Sten does not say there are no female qunari mages.

He says they don't fight.

Actually, due to the way the conversation is worded, it kind of sounds like he's saying there are no female Qunari mages--but it's not like he'd give a damn if you got the wrong impression or anything.

He also, when you talk to him about mages, refers to them persistantly as beasts in the shape of men.

They are seen as tools, not people.

[Face of Evil]

Wulfram wrote...

In a banter with Leliana, he says that there are no female mages



Leliana: Do you mean your people have no female mages or warriors?

Sten: Of course not. Why would our women wish to be men?

You're completely ignoring the context of that statment. It begins with Sten questioning Leliana why she was fighting when, in his mind, women simply do not fight. Sten's comment is that there are no female qunari who serve in combat, not that there are no female qunari mages.

You're taking that statement too literally.

Modifié par Face of Evil, 18 novembre 2010 - 09:04 .

[Sanguinerin]

Perhaps female Qunari mages are healers, or restricted to supportive magic? They can still be mages without using those spells offensively.

[marbatico]

HallowedWarden wrote...

Perhaps female Qunari mages are healers, or restricted to supportive magic? They can still be mages without using those spells offensively.

you mean like healing magic? with the stereotype male/female roles the quanari have, thats actually a pretty good call.

[Legbiter]

Qunari mages, regardless of gender have their tongues cut out before being shackled and caged.

[marbatico]

Legbiter wrote...

Qunari mages, regardless of gender have their tongues cut out before being shackled and caged.

nope, they get there tongues cut out for using forbidden magic.

[Gabey5]

why does it matter, when we will never see qunari females

[Sanguinerin]

I assume that the Qunari wouldn't just kill one of their own. With a society so entrenched in having people put in their appropriate places, I can't see them just casting one out like that. Perhaps they're trained separately from the male mages. At least, I assume that the mages are somehow trained. I'm trying to decide now how I see the Qunari: 1) discipline the mages in their respective fields for men and women, despite the caging and the cutting out of the tongues, or 2) when they use mages, they go all the way and merely unleash detrimental amounts of raw power against their enemies. I still imagine that some form of discipline is used, even if to break the mages into not going against them when unleashed. I think I just got a lot more interested in Qunari society.

[Sanguinerin]

@Gabey5, we won't see Qunari females in Dragon Age II. That doesn't mean we won't ever see them. All we had before DAII was knowledge of the Free Marches, but just because we weren't there then doesn't mean that we would never see them. The same idea goes toward all Dragon Age concepts. If it exists but doesn't appear in the current game, that doesn't mean it never will appear.

[Maria Caliban]

Gabey5 wrote...

why does it matter, when we will never see qunari females

Shows what you know!

[Wulfram]

Face of Evil wrote...

You're taking that statement too literally.

I think other readings are stretching.

But it's not really a big problem if one small bit of banter is wrong or misleading, anyway.

[Arrtis]

Maria Caliban wrote...

Gabey5 wrote...

why does it matter, when we will never see qunari females

Shows what you know!

I see hooves and blue skin...
Qunari have bronze skin and big human like feet last I checked...

[PsychoBlonde]

HallowedWarden wrote...
2) when they use mages, they go all the way and merely unleash detrimental amounts of raw power against their enemies. I still imagine that some form of discipline is used, even if to break the mages into not going against them when unleashed.

Wayy back at the old DA:O forums before the community site was launched, I recall some people talking about this, and the dev's sort of indicated that Qunari mages are basically treated like artillery--in fact most of them die young because they burn themselves out either accidentally or by design.  The trained mages in Tevinter are SO much better that they were able to put a serious dent in the Qunari assault even though the Qunari have superior weapons technology.

But they may have changed their minds on this--this was back before The Calling came out.

[Maria Caliban]

Arrtis wrote...

I see hooves and blue skin...
Qunari have bronze skin and big human like feet last I checked...

Meh. I bet you said Lt. Tuvok was wrong because Vulcans only have pale skin.

And really, we already know that many qunari have horns while a special few have no horns. Guess what? An even specialer few have hooves.

[Herr Uhl]

PsychoBlonde wrote...

HallowedWarden wrote...
2) when they use mages, they go all the way and merely unleash detrimental amounts of raw power against their enemies. I still imagine that some form of discipline is used, even if to break the mages into not going against them when unleashed.

Wayy back at the old DA:O forums before the community site was launched, I recall some people talking about this, and the dev's sort of indicated that Qunari mages are basically treated like artillery--in fact most of them die young because they burn themselves out either accidentally or by design.  The trained mages in Tevinter are SO much better that they were able to put a serious dent in the Qunari assault even though the Qunari have superior weapons technology.

But they may have changed their minds on this--this was back before The Calling came out.

No, they are still basically attack dogs.

[Herr Uhl]

Maria Caliban wrote...

Arrtis wrote...

I see hooves and blue skin...
Qunari have bronze skin and big human like feet last I checked...

Meh. I bet you said Lt. Tuvok was wrong because Vulcans only have pale skin.

And really, we already know that many qunari have horns while a special few have no horns. Guess what? An even specialer few have hooves.

And tails apparently.

[Talogrungi]

Having no female magic-users trained in the arts of magical combat doesn't necessarily equate to having no female magic-users at all.

Perhaps their training is limited to the magical creation of sammiches of epic proportions. Or something.

[Wulfram]

PsychoBlonde wrote...

HallowedWarden wrote...
2) when they use mages, they go all the way and merely unleash detrimental amounts of raw power against their enemies. I still imagine that some form of discipline is used, even if to break the mages into not going against them when unleashed.

Wayy back at the old DA:O forums before the community site was launched, I recall some people talking about this, and the dev's sort of indicated that Qunari mages are basically treated like artillery--in fact most of them die young because they burn themselves out either accidentally or by design.  The trained mages in Tevinter are SO much better that they were able to put a serious dent in the Qunari assault even though the Qunari have superior weapons technology.

But they may have changed their minds on this--this was back before The Calling came out.

Puny humans need somethings going for them.  Seems like it's magic, together with sheer numbers.

Though Tevinter seems to have the best mages anyway - it's where Wynne goes with Shale to try to redwarf her, for example.

[Arrtis]

Maria Caliban wrote...

Arrtis wrote...

I see hooves and blue skin...
Qunari have bronze skin and big human like feet last I checked...

Meh. I bet you said Lt. Tuvok was wrong because Vulcans only have pale skin.

And really, we already know that many qunari have horns while a special few have no horns. Guess what? An even specialer few have hooves.

I heard they kill them on sight.
Often by their parents.