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leonia42 wrote...

Don't mind me *noms on some Turkish delight*


Turks speak Turkish!  :wizard:

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I agree. Also, within a different region of Thedas, the Dalish will talk differently compared to the tribe(s) we've already met in Ferelden due to their different nomadic routes. I thought the American accent was out of place in Thedas, especially sinceit's the Dragon Age equivalent of medieval Europe.


Considering speech in Medieval Europe - as far as I am aware - sounded nothing like modern languages I don't view the American accent as any more out of place than anything else. 

Modifié par Upsettingshorts, 19 novembre 2010 - 05:01 .


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If all of Europe spoke arabic, that wouldn't be a bad thing. While linguistic dominance is typically achieved though questionable methods, there are clear benefits to people of different nations and cultures having a default language.

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just saying an rpg where people spoke french would be interesting

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leonia42 wrote...

Well I meant.. nevermind. Was a joke about how he said he was personally involved in stopping the spread of Arabic.

Don't mind me *noms on some Turkish delight*


Heh - I love those arguments myself - Often use it in "patriotic" threads (
A: We made *insert country great   
B: What, you personally ? - Kewl !)

Modifié par Eleinehmm, 19 novembre 2010 - 05:06 .


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ok go wrote...

just saying an rpg where people spoke french would be interesting


As I understand it, Orlais is the largest and most powerful nation on the continent. I wouldn't be surprised if Orlesan was the lingua franca.

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Upsettingshorts  wrote...

Considering speech in Medieval Europe - as far as I am aware - sounded nothing like modern languages I don't view the American accent as any more out of place than anything else. 

This - I would recommend to listen some Anglo-Saxon or for a more frenchy flavour , some Middle-English - Beautiful, but hardly even remotely modern-like. ;)

Modifié par Eleinehmm, 19 novembre 2010 - 05:12 .


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ok go wrote...

well we saved europe from speaking arabic


Probably held civilization back a thousand years. Thanks.

Note that 12th century England would have had a lot of French spoken. The whole upper class was essentially French at the time. But this isn't relevant to Ferelden, since the Orlesians didn't hold the place.

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AlanC9 wrote...

ok go wrote...

well we saved europe from speaking arabic


Probably held civilization back a thousand years. Thanks.

Note that 12th century England would have had a lot of French spoken. The whole upper class was essentially French at the time. But this isn't relevant to Ferelden, since the Orlesians didn't hold the place.


NORMAN, not  French -  Warden-Guardian, anyone ?

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AlanC9 wrote...

ok go wrote...

well we saved europe from speaking arabic


Probably held civilization back a thousand years. Thanks.

Note that 12th century England would have had a lot of French spoken. The whole upper class was essentially French at the time. But this isn't relevant to Ferelden, since the Orlesians didn't hold the place.


some fereldans might have a orlesian accent after 100 years of occupation.  some of them were loyal to orlais afterall.

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It's my understanding that Bioware uses authentic speakers for their voice actors when accents are needed.

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andar91 wrote...

It's my understanding that Bioware uses authentic speakers for their voice actors when accents are needed.


You can't imagine the trouble they went to for the Twileks in KotOR.

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Nū sculon herigean heofonrīces Weard,
Meotedes meahte ond his mōdgeþanc,
weorc Wuldorfæder, swā he wundra gihwæs,
ēce Drihten, ōr onstealde

 English is good :P

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ok go wrote...

AlanC9 wrote...

ok go wrote...

well we saved europe from speaking arabic


Probably held civilization back a thousand years. Thanks.

Note that 12th century England would have had a lot of French spoken. The whole upper class was essentially French at the time. But this isn't relevant to Ferelden, since the Orlesians didn't hold the place.


some fereldans might have a orlesian accent after 100 years of occupation.  some of them were loyal to orlais afterall.


Most of those loyal to Orlais were killed in the war or individually by Maric. Some, like Howe, switched their loyalties. But regardless, the Fereldan people are a stubborn, proud people that would have rather died than start speaking with Orlesian accents.

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andar91 wrote...

It's my understanding that Bioware uses authentic speakers for their voice actors when accents are needed.


Not always, alas...

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ok go wrote...
some fereldans might have a orlesian accent after 100 years of occupation.  some of them were loyal to orlais afterall.


That'd be just asking for trouble. I daresay there were some Loyalists, or whatever the word would have been, but their fate would have been pretty much what happened to Loyalists in the USA after the revolution. Either cover up your past allegiance, or get deported. Or maybe lynched.

Speaking of the USA, note that the spoken English of Shakespeare's day actually sounded much like a regional US accent, specifically Appalachian dialect.

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AlanC9 wrote...

ok go wrote...
some fereldans might have a orlesian accent after 100 years of occupation.  some of them were loyal to orlais afterall.


That'd be just asking for trouble. I daresay there were some Loyalists, or whatever the word would have been, but their fate would have been pretty much what happened to Loyalists in the USA after the revolution. Either cover up your past allegiance, or get deported. Or maybe lynched.

Speaking of the USA, note that the spoken English of Shakespeare's day actually sounded much like a regional US accent, specifically Appalachian dialect.


Are you trying to say that people in the USA didn't have GVS ?  Both modern American and modern British are dervations, I can't say that  AE is more "authentic" then BE.

Modifié par Eleinehmm, 19 novembre 2010 - 05:48 .


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When you hear someone talking in our best approximation of what an Elizabethan accent would have sounded like, he sounds like a hillbilly. But I don't want to overstate it; it's a resemblance, but Appalachian isn't preserved Elizabethan.

Modifié par AlanC9, 19 novembre 2010 - 05:51 .


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is it like some canadians still having french accents?

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I'm going to disagree with Alan here. All regional dialects show variation and saying 'it sounds the same' will merely reflect the listener's bias. To me, an English accent* and an Australian accent* sounds more alike than an English accent and an American accent*. That's because I'm American and the various regional and class accents of my country sound unique to me. A French person or an Australian will pick up similarities and differences I miss.


*Yes, I am aware that there are dozens to hundreds of these.

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I wasn't quite sure what accent Isolde had. But it could get out of hand when she said Emon, Teghan and demon all in followup sentences. Zevrans accent on the other hand is awesome.

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 Zevrans accent on the other hand is awesome.


I think this is something we can all agree on. And I didn't even like Zevran! :wizard:

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Being French Myself, i can say that the "french" accent used in the game is quite quite awful. Not counting Lelianna, of course. And Marjolaine's probably the worst of all.

I mean, a French trying to speak in english "can" sound a bit like that. But just someone who doesn't practice very often. And isolde, for exemple, while living in Ferelden since at least 10 years should sound way more like Lelianna. But she doesn't. And that's awful.

Of course, we, Frenchies, can play the game in french... But in this way, we loose EVERY accents. And Zevran without accent isn't Zevran... As Lelianna in fact... :unsure:

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Oloos wrote...

Being French Myself, i can say that the "french" accent used in the game is quite quite awful. Not counting Lelianna, of course. And Marjolaine's probably the worst of all.

I mean, a French trying to speak in english "can" sound a bit like that. But just someone who doesn't practice very often. And isolde, for exemple, while living in Ferelden since at least 10 years should sound way more like Lelianna. But she doesn't. And that's awful.

Of course, we, Frenchies, can play the game in french... But in this way, we loose EVERY accents. And Zevran without accent isn't Zevran... As Lelianna in fact... :unsure:


Out of curiousity, in the French version of the game, does Corinne Kempa portray Lelianna? (I may have misinterpreted your comment, however.)

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Nope, she doesn't... :/

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Oloos wrote...

Nope, she doesn't... :/


Ack, that just seems so wrong to me.