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[Sursion]

AngusJimiKeith wrote...

Me being a classic rock fan ftw.

looked on the back of "the singles" album.

Track 1: London Calling.

yes folks, we are looking at war torn london.
http://www.lyricsfre...g_20031731.html

Everyone figured that out already.

[Uhh.. Jonah]

This is obviously a mass effect game!

So now the question is, what kind of mass effect game?

Prequel? ME3(plleeeaaasseee!!)?

My guess is its Mass Effect 3, because it doesn't make sense to me how Bioware would be working on 2 mass effect games.

[AngusJimiKeith]

Sursion wrote...

AngusJimiKeith wrote...

Me being a classic rock fan ftw.

looked on the back of "the singles" album.

Track 1: London Calling.

yes folks, we are looking at war torn london.
http://www.lyricsfre...g_20031731.html

Everyone figured that out already.

i knew i should have read through what i missed. ah whatever. it gave me an excuse to listen to the clash.

so the question becomes: what went down on earth??

[JustinBB7]

Uhh.. Jonah wrote...

This is obviously a mass effect game!
So now the question is, what kind of mass effect game?
Prequel? ME3(plleeeaaasseee!!)?
My guess is its Mass Effect 3, because it doesn't make sense to me how Bioware would be working on 2 mass effect games.

They have more then 1 studio, that's why Bioware Montreal is mentioned in the title of this thread. They can work on this came while Bioware (somewhere else.. not that familiar with Bioware ) can make Mass Effect 3.

[Uhh.. Jonah]

JustinBB7 wrote...

Uhh.. Jonah wrote...

This is obviously a mass effect game!
So now the question is, what kind of mass effect game?
Prequel? ME3(plleeeaaasseee!!)?
My guess is its Mass Effect 3, because it doesn't make sense to me how Bioware would be working on 2 mass effect games.

They have more then 1 studio, that's why Bioware Montreal is mentioned in the title of this thread. They can work on this came while Bioware (somewhere else.. not that familiar with Bioware ) can make Mass Effect 3.

Well.. it also wouldn't make sense to me why they would work on a mass effect spin off when they haven't finnished the series..

[XyleJKH]

Phaedon wrote...

5. September 2010, BioWare Montreal plans to doubles staff from approximately 27 to 55 employees. Yanick Roy reconfirms Mass Effect work by stating “We're also doubling our contribution to whatever happens next in the Mass Effect franchise".

Yup, that's the part I was posting all over the forums, but nobody would listen to me. It is ME-related. Forget the atomic mass of iron, this is all the evidence we need.

That being said, however other prominent companies (Valve, Blizzard), have doubled staff for "our next big project" which took years to make, or is still in development
However, Bioware is nothing like those companies... hopefully they stay that way

[IrishGunman]

Im guessing the reapers have arrived on EARTH. They are attacking London for sure, and are spreading.

[IrishGunman]

Wait!



If you use the Temperature and Iron Weight as coordinates u get East Russia.



The Clash is an English Punk Band and the frist single is called "London Calling"



If u read the lyrics, u can clearly see the messages outlined about War and the destruction of London.



Maybe the REAPERS ARE ATTACKING, or these is where the 1st Contact Wars where 1st fought at.

[EatChildren]

XyleJKH wrote...

That being said, however other prominent companies (Valve, Blizzard), have doubled staff for "our next big project" which took years to make, or is still in development
However, Bioware is nothing like those companies... hopefully they stay that way

Blizzard and Valve take forever to make games because they refuse to release games unless they're of the absolute highest standard.

The Montreal situation is more interesting as the studio was, previously, manned by only 20-something people, which really isn't all that large in the grand scheme of things. More importantly, they were immediately given the role of providing the core ME2 team with aid in developing art assets and side missions for ME2. They were, in a sense, an extention of the Edmonton team.

By doubling their staff they're putting a lot more focus on that studio. Not only that, but by advertising for positions to work on a First Person Shooter, it is likely that their studio is shifting from a 'support' team to more of a core studio. Rather than support ME3 (which they're probably doing anyway, to some degree), they're no doubt working on a project of their very own.

This will be Montreal's first in-house game.

[shinobi602]

I still say it's ME3, and the Reapers are attacking Earth.



We'll see.

[EatChildren]

It might not mean anything, but here's something to note.



The Clash - The Singles was originally released in 1991. The actual album art that BioWare reference in the latest clue is not from the original release. Instead it is from the re-release of The Singles, which came out in 2007.



What else was released in 2007? Mass Effect.

[smithgroup]

EatChildren wrote...


By doubling their staff they're putting a lot more focus on that studio. Not only that, but by advertising for positions to work on a First Person Shooter, it is likely that their studio is shifting from a 'support' team to more of a core studio. Rather than support ME3 (which they're probably doing anyway, to some degree), they're no doubt working on a project of their very own.

This will be Montreal's first in-house game.

Did the ad for employment actually say "first person shooter"?
If it did, then I would go with totally new IP because why would they take a great TPS system that took years to get right and turn it into a FPS?

Modifié par smithgroup, 26 novembre 2010 - 06:42 .

[EatChildren]

smithgroup wrote...

Did the ad for employment actually say "first person shooter"?
If it did, then I would go with totally new IP because why would they take a great TPS system that took years to get right and turn it into a FPS?

The actual ad literally stated positions for a 'military-grade FPS' and 'popular FPS', exactly those words.

And just because the main Mass Effect trilogy works as third person shooter does not mean a first person shooter would operate exactly the same. They're both shooters, but fundamentally third person shooters play differently to first, particuarly with more limited firing angles (less focusing on higher and lower targets) as well as a stronger focus on sticky cover.

A 'first person' Mass Effect would, as a whole, feel a bit different. If it were a spin-off title they'd likely try and avoid direcly copying the mechanics of the main trilogy, just to make it a bit different in feel.

It could very well be a new franchise. Its certainly not confirmed to be Mass Effect related. But, as I state in the op, we know absolutely for sure that the Montreal studio is not only working on something Mass Effect related, but they are also working on a first person shooter. They may be different titles, but they may also be the same.

Modifié par EatChildren, 26 novembre 2010 - 07:05 .

[Netzach]

Well maybe the teaser (the game) has nothing to do with Montreal.and they're still making something but not this.

They're hiring people, normally you do it before making teasers.

Modifié par kanuvis, 26 novembre 2010 - 08:27 .

[CPT Eightball]

HA!
Taking the fight to Earth?
Finally. After both games, you get to mess around on Earth, and not just look at it from the moon. Wonder what its like almost 200 years from now?

And I really, REALLY, hope this game doesn't turn into an FPS. It's great as is. DON'T RUIN IT.
If they decide to make it a FPS, I might not even buy the next game.

Modifié par CPT Eightball, 26 novembre 2010 - 11:23 .

[Shinannigan]

Another hint may be something that was pointed out in the other thread but has been ignored so far:

On the SIS Homepage (www.sis.gov.uk/output/sis-home-welcome.html) which the third barcode leads to, the introductory text mentions "weapons of mass destruction" and "do this effectively" within the same paragraph, albeit a couple of sentences apart. Might be a coincidence, sure, but connects nicely to the other clues.

If we assume that it's ME related, which I do, the only way that this could be a prequel would be if London in the 22nd century is a slum with gangland violence, otherwise the state of destruction of the building which the soldier is in points to war on Earth, which would definetely mean something in the future of ME2, since the first contact war didn't reach earth and there have been no other wars on earth recently that we know of.
Also, the building in which the sniper finds himself might actually be Big Ben, since the part of the shattered "window" seems to be rather part of a round structure than a normal rectangle window, so it might be the actual clockwork of the famous bell tower. Both the material of the framework (seems to be old-fashioned cast-iron instead of steel) and the milky colour of the shattered glass would fit.
Also seeing a full trailer on the 11th of December where the camera zooms out to show the sniper stuck between 6 and 7 o'clock in the Big Ben clockwork wourld be a neat shot!

In that case the bridge would be London Bridge and not Vauxhall Bridge and the question would be what the grey round (or half round?) structure in the foreground might be, the structure that blocks half of the view on the river Thamse. That shouldn't be there if it's Big Ben, so it might be a spacecraft looming next to the Houses of parliament.
If that is actually part of the building which the Sniper is in, that that would again point towards the SIS Headquarters, which has a couple of these half-circle colonnades in its construction. But the cast-iron milky-glassed window doesn't seem to fit a modern building like that.

[EatChildren]

Shinannigan wrote...

Another hint may be something that was pointed out in the other thread but has been ignored so far:

On the SIS Homepage (www.sis.gov.uk/output/sis-home-welcome.html) which the third barcode leads to, the introductory text mentions "weapons of mass destruction" and "do this effectively" within the same paragraph, albeit a couple of sentences apart. Might be a coincidence, sure, but connects nicely to the other clues.

I wouldn't really count that, and consider that looking for clues where there are none. The SIS website has absolutely nothing to do with BioWare. Its the offical website for the British SIS/MI6. All writing on the website existed prior to this tease, and was written without any connection to BioWare or Mass Effect.

'Mass' and 'Effectively' are just words of the English language, used where appropriate. I wouldnt look too deeply into the wording on the website.

[Shinannigan]

EatChildren wrote...

Shinannigan wrote...

Another hint may be something that was pointed out in the other thread but has been ignored so far:

On the SIS Homepage (www.sis.gov.uk/output/sis-home-welcome.html) which the third barcode leads to, the introductory text mentions "weapons of mass destruction" and "do this effectively" within the same paragraph, albeit a couple of sentences apart. Might be a coincidence, sure, but connects nicely to the other clues.

I wouldn't really count that, and consider that looking for clues where there are none. The SIS website has absolutely nothing to do with BioWare. Its the offical website for the British SIS/MI6. All writing on the website existed prior to this tease, and was written without any connection to BioWare or Mass Effect.

'Mass' and 'Effectively' are just words of the English language, used where appropriate. I wouldnt look too deeply into the wording on the website.

Of course they are and I don't believe for a second that the SIS would change their introductory texts just to tease some game, but I do believe that Bioware is clever enough to look for exactly such hints and unless the SIS Vauxhall headquarters is the actual location of the sniper, they might have just gone through London based websites which use some combination of "mass" and "effect". So if this were a clue, it would have gone down exactly the other way around than what you suggested, I suggested.

Your point that the SIS has nothing to do with Bioware - while true - has littel standing, since it was Bioware who used that website to make a connection to their upcoming game. It might be just the location (even if only roughly the same area, i.e. London), but it might also be that the wording was an addinional and intentional hint.
It's no more grasping at straws than looking "behind" the Clash cover at the titles of their songs. Grasping is all we're doing here. We won't know until 12/11.

[EatChildren]

Yeah I know, all any of us are doing are guessing, I just put more weight on clues that are a bit more out in the open. I dont consider the word 'mass' and part of a word saying 'effect' on the same page, not even in the same sentance, to be a clue. Too much of a stretch in my opinion, as its much more likely that the location of the SIS headquarters and the uncanny matching to the outside shot of the teaser trailer is indeed the intended hint.



But hey, as you said all we can do is grasp at whatever we can until the time comes for the reveal.

[royceclemens]

Regarding the MI6 clue? I'm gonna go way the hell out on a limb trying to link it to Mass Effect but...



Didn't James Bond work for MI6? And didn't he fight an organization called SPECTRE?



Gee, clutching at thin air sure is fun.

[BlazePT]

royceclemens wrote...

Regarding the MI6 clue? I'm gonna go way the hell out on a limb trying to link it to Mass Effect but...

Didn't James Bond work for MI6? And didn't he fight an organization called SPECTRE?

Gee, clutching at thin air sure is fun.

I see what you did there, and approve.
The devs must be laughing their asses off!

[Sidewinder_617]

Niniva wrote...

joriandrake wrote...

EatChildren wrote...

joriandrake wrote...

looked at the video, for me that looks more like Alpha Protocol than ME

Alpha Protocol is a game made by a different developer, and published by a different publisher. It has absolutely no relation to this teaser.

and? Obsidian and Bioware have many longtime connections and they cooperate, no wonder that AP resembled ME a lot, it wouldn't be that surprising if Bioware decided to save the franchise and for the change they make a sequel to an Obsidian game, and that rifle or the armor of the guy in the teaser doesn't look ME-like for me even if others say that rifle is from ME2

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i51.tinypic.com/242a4rd.jpg

Are you SURE?

The weapon can be COMPARED to the M-29.
That doesn't mean it IS one, and the URLs from the codes point to present-day icons,
like the british intelligence service-possibly indication to Alpha Protocol.
still, it could be an indication to a new ME2 DLC... or maybe a full fledged Expansion pack?
one where shepard or the sniper have some wetwork to attend to. possibly on earth, for a change.

[EatChildren]

Sidewinder_617 wrote...

The weapon can be COMPARED to the M-29.
That doesn't mean it IS one, and the URLs from the codes point to present-day icons,
like the british intelligence service-possibly indication to Alpha Protocol.
still, it could be an indication to a new ME2 DLC... or maybe a full fledged Expansion pack?
one where shepard or the sniper have some wetwork to attend to. possibly on earth, for a change.

Do we really have to drill this into another person?

It cant be 'compared' to the Incisor, it is the bloody Incisor. Outside of a slight alteration to the front support, and the dulling of the colour tones, it is the exact same model. It is the Incisor rifle model that is used in Mass Effect 2, spruced up with a higher poly count. Its not kinda like the Incisor, or comparible to the Incisor, it is the Incisor rifle.

As others have stated, if this is not a sign the game is Mass Effect related, then BioWare reused the Incisor model for this teaser. It would be a reused art asset. Not a brand new model. Not a comparible model. The same model, with the removal of the support.

There's a reason people keep using this as evidence. Out of absolutely everything from that first reveal, and going off no other clues, the only hint people could gather from it was the existence of that rifle.

I dont know why people keep dancing around that part of the clue. You're either completely blind or in denial and just dont want it to be that rifle, or at the very least that art asset reused for whatever reason.

[Phaedon]

I am not entirely sure, but I think that someone pointed out that a single part of the rifle was a bit different, I'll look it up.



But yeah, the original model is the Incisor rifle, no arguing about that.

[AngusJimiKeith]

that was me. i pointed out that they added a charging handle. ive since decided that its not a huge deal; it was probably added because it "looked right" even though a mass effect gun wouldnt need one.