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BioWare's next game - Information/speculation so far, BioWare Montreal, and Mass Effect FPS


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Mass Effect 3.



Teaser is Reapers attacking Earth.



Heard it here first!

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The only, remotely solid information I have seen came in the form a Kotaku Article. According to a developmental source, "The BioWare project teased earlier today by Spike TV’s Video Game Awards is not an early look at Mass Effect 3," and that, "the multiplayer-focused Mass Effect spin-off is currently in the works at BioWare Montreal."

I have posted the link to the article once before in this thread, but for everyone that does not want to read it, here is another important quote from the article:
"That Mass Effect game is not a massively multiplayer online version of BioWare’s sci-fi RPG series, but a game that’s designed to appeal more to the Call of Duty market, according to that source. We’re told to expect player progression in the vein of Activision’s wildly popular online shooter along with some sort of single-player component that does not feature Mass Effect’s Commander Shepard in a leading role."

If all of this is to be believed, then we will not be getting a Mass Effect MMO or Mass Effect 3. One thing can be pretty much confirmed though. This new Mass Effect will have both a multiplayer and single player aspect.

Modifié par Crimson Sound, 27 novembre 2010 - 10:12 .


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You should try reading my OP and the detailed history of BioWare Montreal, which is all factual, and mentions a shooter. Ties in nicely with Kotaku's report.

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EatChildren wrote...

You should try reading my OP and the detailed history of BioWare Montreal, which is all factual, and mentions a shooter. Ties in nicely with Kotaku's report.

I have read it actually.  I am personally amazed with how much we have been able to take away from a roughly 5 second clip of a game trailer.  It ties in very nicely with the Kotaku article, in fact it supports it, but there is no mention in the OP of the article itself.

Seeing how everyone keeps on voicing their fears of it being a MMO and their hopes of it being Mass Effect 3, I just figured it'd be nice if we kept some of the other details in mind.

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I don't know much about picture files, but has anyone zoomed in on the scope to see what it may be aiming at?

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Just checked. All reflective surfaces are mostly dulled out. There's a minor reflection in his open eye, but it just looks like glare.

EDIT:  Maybe the two lines above his left eye should be looked into.  Could be nothing, but it just seems odd that those two lines stand out from the black marks on his face.

Modifié par Crimson Sound, 27 novembre 2010 - 11:49 .


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Crimson Sound wrote...

I have read it actually.  I am personally amazed with how much we have been able to take away from a roughly 5 second clip of a game trailer.  It ties in very nicely with the Kotaku article, in fact it supports it, but there is no mention in the OP of the article itself.


I was going to include the Kotaku thing, but its still unconfirmed, and a couple of other places seem to be claiming its ME3. All the Montreal stuff is just a compilation of info that's been announced over the last year or so, just something to keep in mind.

I should probably include the Kotaku article though, now that you've bought it up.

Seeing how everyone keeps on voicing their fears of it being a MMO and their hopes of it being Mass Effect 3, I just figured it'd be nice if we kept some of the other details in mind.


No chance in hell it is a Mass Effect MMO, and if anybody seriously think its a possibility they're crazy :lol:. Then again, I've seen some strange theories thrown around this form, so a Mass Effect MMO is hardly the worst.

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Crimson Sound wrote...

Just checked. All reflective surfaces are mostly dulled out. There's a minor reflection in his open eye, but it just looks like glare.

EDIT:  Maybe the two lines above his left eye should be looked into.  Could be nothing, but it just seems odd that those two lines stand out from the black marks on his face.


Thanks for looking into that, that's one more thing down. :o

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I fail to see how Kotaku is more credible than the clues we're getting.

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It's not really, but it is different. The clues you guys are finding are all amazing, but they're only clues. If they were any more than that, then they would be answers. Things like the Kotaku article and the Russian Tweet present possibilities. Any clues found can be used to support one theory over another. Kotaku is not the same as the clues being found, so saying one is more credible than the other is hard to do.

However, if you truly feel that the credibility of the two are comparable, then I must say the following: Kotaku, and other sites like it, has access to various inside sources and other more useful resources than we do.  I'm just saying.

Modifié par Crimson Sound, 28 novembre 2010 - 11:47 .


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My favorite theory so far is still that it's ME3 with Earth in (civil) war. And NOT against the reapers. Earth is plenty divided on its own... and with the hexagons, it's not entirely impossible Cerberus has a small part in it too.



Yeah, wishful thinking, I know.

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I have been away for a few days and have to say that "The Clash" clue is really confusing. All of the other clues make sense and relate to either ME lore or the teaser, however this clue (other than the band being British) doesn't really. I think we may be overanalyzing, "The Clash" may just be referencing the clash between Earth and the Reapers or the clash of the Earth Civil War that some have speculated or a clash between any opposing forces.

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I'm thinking the game's something Mass Effect, maybe ME3 or something else. The terrain that he looks at in one point of the video looks kinda primitive for Mass Effect(prequel maybe?).

Edit: I think "The Clash" clue means The First Contact War.

Modifié par Byth, 29 novembre 2010 - 03:41 .


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Ok, well, "The Clash - The Singles" is a greatest hits album of their singles releases throughout their history, among those is "London Calling" and "Rock the Casbah". Really the only thing that I can guess that ties into the whole viral binary code thing BioWare is doing is the MI-5 posting, and how the Clash is British.

I should note that "London Calling" kind of describes a war-torn Britain. Could this be the setting for the new game in which we work for MI-6?

EDIT:  This cannot be a Bond game because Activision owns the rights to 007.

Modifié par PARAGON87, 29 novembre 2010 - 03:46 .


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Let's not forget that at E3 somebody put ME3 one the list. That got taken down. Same with the russian tweet. I really doubt this is ME3. It's obviously ME related given the Incisor, but the whole tone and environment looks nothing like ME 1 or 2.



-Polite

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PARAGON87 wrote...
Ok, well, "The Clash - The Singles" is a greatest hits album of their singles releases throughout their history, among those is "London Calling" and "Rock the Casbah". Really the only thing that I can guess that ties into the whole viral binary code thing BioWare is doing is the MI-5 posting, and how the Clash is British.
I should note that "London Calling" kind of describes a war-torn Britain. Could this be the setting for the new game in which we work for MI-6?

EDIT:  This cannot be a Bond game because Activision owns the rights to 007.

*snaps finger*
Thats it! They are not making a new ME game they are making a new IP about a British spy codenamed 008, he goes by Bonder, Jimmy Bonder.

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it could be related to The first contact war is some how Shanxi has a city called New London or something like that

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Remember there was a screw up with ME PS3 edition, when information was leaked by mistake on some shops and twitter but was removed shortly after. So ME3 chances are still high.

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I have to agree with Polite a few posts above. This really looks NOTHING like Mass Effect (1, 2, 3). Not only does the graphics engine seem completely different (though I realize this is a trailer), but the environment looks a little too primitive for what ME1 and 2 have shown us, which I think strengthens the possibility of it being a spinoff AND a prequel.

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No graphics engine in the trailer, just CGI, similar to that action CGI trailer with Grunt, Thane, and Shepard for Mass Effect 2. That too was a bit more gritty looking than Mass Effect 2 actually was (subdued tones, less neons, etc), but I do agree that this stylistically looks quite different from the Mass Effect norm (except for the rifle).



The problem is we sadly haven't seen a whole lot. All we can see is a shattered window, one soldier, and a very brief and unclear glimps of the outside. We dont really have enough to go off to state whether or not its situated in the Mass Effect universe and around what time. As others have stated, the armor looks primitive, and I agree, but it might just be low grade merc armor. Zaeed's armor looks pretty industrial and run down too, compared to Shepards and others.



Man, December 11 needs to hurry up. You hear me BioWare! Speed up time already!

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A studio does not go from having 27 people on its payroll to announcing a full standalone product with a fancy CG teaser in 2 months. Even if they had staffed up to 55 the day after they announced that they would and had every one of them working immediately, 1) that still isn't enough people and 2) the soonest we would hear about a project from them is Summer 2011.

That old job listing was looking for someone to adapt single-player gameplay to multiplayer. If this was a standalone title, they can have whatever gameplay they want. They can build their gameplay from scratch, specifically with multiplayer in mind. The only scenario that would require adaptation would be if they were building the MP portion, while another studio was building the SP. Hey, Bioware Edmonton is another studio!

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Which is another plausible scenario that does not conflict with any of the information I have in the op. Montreal's history in the op is factual. How it is interpreted is up to you.

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FieryPhoenix7 wrote...

I have to agree with Polite a few posts above. This really looks NOTHING like Mass Effect (1, 2, 3). Not only does the graphics engine seem completely different (though I realize this is a trailer), but the environment looks a little too primitive for what ME1 and 2 have shown us, which I think strengthens the possibility of it being a spinoff AND a prequel.

a Wii version of Mass Effect? :huh:

reduced grapical features can only mean that the game has been adapted to lower hardware spec OR resource allocation.

I don't know how reduce features which are the prime core of the engine be reduced for spin-offs makes sense.

Modifié par mad825, 29 novembre 2010 - 04:21 .


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Mass Effect: Wiidemption

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EatChildren wrote...

Which is another plausible scenario that does not conflict with any of the information I have in the op. Montreal's history in the op is factual. How it is interpreted is up to you.

I know it's factual, because I knew that stuff before you posted it. :P I'm not attacking you or your thread, I'm just trying to inject some common sense into the speculation. I don't see that there's any way BW Montreal could be  announcing a game this soon. They were established to help the Mass Effect team; the Mass Effect team still needs help. I am predicting that Montreal will continue to "contribute" to that effort, possibly with a multiplayer component.

Modifié par SmokePants, 29 novembre 2010 - 07:38 .