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#151
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I think it's too early to tell personally and shall simply wait. Can't say Bioware has ever really disapointed me except with the DA:O DLC.

I don't even feel, personally, that a FPS set in the Mass effect universe would be a bad idea as long as they DID do it in a CoD style rather than trying to mix RPG elements into it. The reason I say this is the Mass Effect books. They go into great detail on hows the guns work in a way that the games couldn't being RPGs first and foremost.

Running through an Alliance ship that is being attacked from a first person view? Awesome. Watching a ship blow up above you and the debris come rainign down, and then having to go take out the artilliry that caused it? Epic. Fighting Biotics as just a normal Alliance Marine (ala Ashley, or defaultShep) as if you were seeing it through your own eyes? Cool. Carrying a fellow soldier, whos leg has been turned to mince by enemy fire, through a crumbling base with Lokie Mechs all around. Tense drama.

Most of all, remember how epic some of the set-pieces in Mass Effect 2 were? Now imagine those CoD style as you actively play during them. There's a certain drama that an true fast-paced FPS can capture that an RPG never can. And i'm saying that as someone who plays RPGs almost exclusively.

I think a lot of people are judging an idea far too early. I'm not a big CoD fan; i've played through them once and only liked the single-player and the set-pieces. The effects and 'feel' are always spot on. The main reason i'm not a big fan is i'm not a huge 'war scene' fan. I am however a big futuristic-warefare fan when it coems to Mass Effect's universe. A comination of the two could be mindblowing.

Modifié par Alixen, 21 novembre 2010 - 12:32 .


#152
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I dont think people need to worry too much about the whole Call of Duty thing. If the rumour is true, 'Call of Duty market' will likely mean gameplay design that includes stuff like perks, XP, equipment, etc, as well as an accessible online interface where players can jump in for quick games. That kind of stuff is what makes CoD so addictive and popular with its fans.

Really, a Mass Effect FPS containing those elements wouldn't be bad, especially if it stayed true to the current Mass Effect lore. Take the basic idea of XP, equipment, perks, and what-not, and throw in sci-fi weapons, biotic powers, and the ability to play as characters like the Krogan, Turian, and Asari and I think you'd have something that would be pretty rad.

And this is coming from someone who got tired of Call of Duty after the second game. Regardless of how I feel about the game, the mechanics are pretty solid, and with a new coat of paint that seperates itself from the 'hur durp America' Michael Bay war movie setting, it could be great.

But at the same time I can totally dig why someobdy wouldn't be down with a Mass Effect shooter, particuarly if its not a genre they enjoy. But hey, that's the nature of gaming. You cant make a game that will please everybody, and its nice for developers to branch out and try new things.

Modifié par EatChildren, 21 novembre 2010 - 12:56 .


#153
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EatChildren wrote...

I dont think people need to worry too much about the whole Call of Duty thing. If the rumour is true, 'Call of Duty market' will likely mean gameplay design that includes stuff like perks, XP, equipment, etc, as well as an accessible online interface where players can jump in for quick games. That kind of stuff is what makes CoD so addictive and popular with its fans.

Really, a Mass Effect FPS containing those elements wouldn't be bad, especially if it stayed true to the current Mass Effect lore. Take the basic idea of XP, equipment, perks, and what-not, and throw in sci-fi weapons, biotic powers, and the ability to play as characters like the Krogan, Turian, and Asari and I think you'd have something that would be pretty rad.

And this is coming from someone who got tired of Call of Duty after the second game. Regardless of how I feel about the game, the mechanics are pretty solid, and with a new coat of paint that seperates itself from the 'hur durp America' Michael Bay war movie setting, it could be great.

But at the same time I can totally dig why someobdy wouldn't be down with a Mass Effect shooter, particuarly if its not a genre they enjoy. But hey, that's the nature of gaming. You cant make a game that will please everybody, and its nice for developers to branch out and try new things.


It's just that Call of Duty "clones" tend to be stale, easy and get boring really quickly.
I hope it isn't TOO much like Call o' Doody.

#154
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That Bioware's "new game" is either a ME1 prequel or ME2 expansion pack but there are too many rumors about Mass Effect 3...

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I thought prequel too, but the images of the rifle sorta shot that hope down for me. I was hoping for The First Contact War and then the following conflicts with the Batarians. Maybe a game where you play as a Cerberus agent during these events; perhaps even the Illusive Man during his 'fightin' days'.

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Da_Lion_Man wrote...

It's just that Call of Duty "clones" tend to be stale, easy and get boring really quickly.
I hope it isn't TOO much like Call o' Doody.


Completely agree, which is why I think having a sci-fi theme would give it a bit of an edge. Plus if Montreal are behind it they have a Raven developer, and Raven know their shooters.

Whatever happens, I seriously doubt it will be a Medal of Honor scenario. That was copy/paste design of the highest order.

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Amusing how Bioware's mmorpg seem to focus more on a rpg elements then their singel player games these days. I suspect ME3 and SWTOR might be the last Bioware games I buy if this trend continues. While there is a rather large amount of time between their games Obsidian pretty much cover what I want from singel player games so there is no real need to buy Bioware games anymore when all they care about is action clips.

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zazei wrote...

Amusing how Bioware's mmorpg seem to focus more on a rpg elements then their singel player games these days. I suspect ME3 and SWTOR might be the last Bioware games I buy if this trend continues. While there is a rather large amount of time between their games Obsidian pretty much cover what I want from singel player games so there is no real need to buy Bioware games anymore when all they care about is action clips.


To be fair, nobody should expect a developer to only make one style of game. Developers should be encouraged to branch out and try new genres that they maybe yet to make a game in. I know a lot of the developers I've spoken to dont want to be pigeon-holed into a single style of game. They're creative people, and they want to try new things.

Note very game BioWare make needs to be an RPG, even if thats almost exclusively what they've made so far. If they want to try something new, good on them. Hopefully they can deliver.

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MRBCBK420 wrote...

the Stargate is real. Vostok, Antarctica."


That would be awesome.... sadly, I doubt there will be any stargate games. :(

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why does evryone assume its an fps

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gethslayer7 wrote...

why does evryone assume its an fps


Because of BioWare's Montreal studio. Check their history in my op.

They're working on something Mass Effect related, they've got an ex-Raven level designer on the team who is working on that Mass Effect something, and they advertised for positions in making a 'military grade FPS' and 'popular FPS'. They might be seperate things, but that's the root of the speculation.

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An idea just came to me, MAYBE IT'S A DIFFERENENT FRANCHIZE?

Didn't Bioware anounce a new franchize, when they where asked if Jade Empire 2 was underway? Or where they talking about the star wars mmo?



Would love some more ME, and the codes definetly add-up to the forementioned planet in the ME universe, but we shouldn't be too sure about it.



The rifle definetly resembles the incisor sniper rifle, but it's possible bioware is simply recycling some gun models, many designers chose to do so anyway.

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Oh totally. It could be a new franchise. I think people are leaning towards Mass Effect as most of the clues point in that direction. The Incisor Rifle model is just one. There's also the atomic weight of iron and the coldest recorded temperature, and how they both match up with a planet from Mass Effect 2.



The SIS website matches up with the location in the trailer, but doesnt imply Mass Effect. The latest clue, 'Murder', is completely up in the air.



I guess we'll have to wait for more clues! I wonder if we'll get one today.

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"look closer" could mean zoom in
"murder" together it sounds like killing with a snpierrifle
to kill with a sniperrifle you need to "look closer" (zoom in)
doesn't it should logical?Image IPB

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dkstarlife wrote...

"look closer" could mean zoom in
"murder" together it sounds like killing with a snpierrifle
to kill with a sniperrifle you need to "look closer" (zoom in)
doesn't it should logical?Image IPB


It is unusual to refer to a sniper kill as 'murder'. It is frequently used to refer to 'political assasination' though.

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Battlefield Badcompany 1&2 made players cooperate for an objective. Thats how any multiplayer should be for Mass Effect. All "Team Deathmatch" or "Free For All" crap - is objectiveless and mindless.



I've had faith in Bioware but lately with the whole PS3 debunlke - I'm losing it.

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LeVaughnX wrote...

Battlefield Badcompany 1&2 made players cooperate for an objective. Thats how any multiplayer should be for Mass Effect. All "Team Deathmatch" or "Free For All" crap - is objectiveless and mindless.

I've had faith in Bioware but lately with the whole PS3 debunlke - I'm losing it.


Wait, they announce that they are bringing ME2 to another platform and you are losing faith in them? That doesnt make much sense. 

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The "SIS" hint is awesome.  If it's not Mass Effect, and more if it is, a spy game by bioware could be pretty cool.


Very possible. I personally would love to see a stealth game like Splinter Cell set in the ME universe. There's definitely an oppurtuinity. There are Spectres, the STG, asari commandos, the Alliance (Cerverus?), not to mention the merc organizations, and the wealthy outside parties like the shadow broker. There's also enough dirty politics to warrant an espionage game. And to be honest, if Bioware had a say in it, I think they'd go in that direction, something like (a not buggy as hell) Alpha Protocol, over a striaght-up shooter, like Gears of War, any day. And I can't think of any stealth franchises that EA owns, so there's oppurtuinity for them there too. In fact, there aren't many stealth IPs on the market at all. I can only think of Splinter Cell, Ghost Recon, and Batman Arkham.

Modifié par MisterDyslexo, 22 novembre 2010 - 12:13 .


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I think bioware is trying to be ironic, making an obsidian sequal, instead of obsidian making a bioware sequel xd



I'd be happy if it's a new franchize, but it would please me more to see a ME game, that isn't ME3. Online First Person Role Playing Shooter would be nice, an OFPRPS xd just keep the MM part out, nobody wants a ME MMO, the genre is conveluted enough.



I hope that they'll eventually make a ME (strategy/shooter/rpg game [or maybe movie], about the Rachni wars, the Krogan rebellion, First Contact war.




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The SIS hint reveals the location of the character in the trailer. Check where the SIS/MI6 headquarters are. Note the geography, particuarly Vauxhall Bridge. That is where the dudebro in the trailer is.

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I haven't read the whole thread so I don't know if this leak was posted somewhere else, but Sony Russia seems to think the secret project is ME3.

Source: http://www.escapistm...s-Mass-Effect-3

I personally think it's a mistake... but Escapist hasn't steered me wrong before...

#172
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whatever it is I will be anticipating it. I'm a fan of nearly all genres from FPS to RPG to Sports, to Action, To "lego games" as long as its fun and enjoyable to me thats all that really matters

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em...don't know if anyone has seen this but when you move your cursor over the picture of the guy featured in the trailer in the News and Announcements section, in the top left corner there is the tag "Garrus dead" and just next to it is "Its a trap"...that could be the whole murder thing? I hope not but yeah :(

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Lol that's just a tag.

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the spinoff of a TPS is now an FPS?

ehhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh...........

Modifié par Mecha Tengu, 22 novembre 2010 - 11:52 .