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[haberman13]

I'm not a fan of console games, but I must say DA2 looks fun, even though I get an ME2 vibe out of it.

Let's face it, 90% of the gaming population doesn't want DA:O again, they want DA:O mixed with ME2; ME2 was as winning formula for Bioware and I think they will start using it for most of their games.

I don't plan on playing DA2, because its not my cup of tea, but seeing gameplay footage it's not as bad as I expected.  In fact, it looks fun.  Maybe not all cerebral like DA:O, but possibly more "fun" in the pure sense of the word.

At this point I think Bioware will have two "philosophies" one for the MMO space with ToR which I expect to be a "true" PC game with all of the complexity and dressings and the console development team who concentrates on story and action-y combat.

Frankly I was very negative about this in the past (like 4 hours ago lol) but having seen some gameplay footage I can understand why Bioware is making the change.  It appeals to more people and loses some of the "nerd" vibe that DA:O had.

So, my advice: play ToR if you liked Bioware of the last decade, and stop worrying about the consolification of their other fanchises.

[slimgrin]

I hope you're wrong about TOR being their vision of a 'true' pc game. I'm pretty sure you are, in fact. I have no plans to play it, or any other MMO's.

[Fortlowe]

Well gee whiz 'brah' thats the nicest backhanded compliment I've ever heard...ever. You're sooo gracious. Seeing as you're not planning on getting DA2, though, what was the point of this post again?

Modifié par Fortlowe, 19 novembre 2010 - 07:23 .

[Ziggeh]

Obvious troll might as well be wearing a sign.

[ErichHartmann]

haberman13 wrote...

I'm not a fan of console games, but I must say DA2 looks fun, even though I get an ME2 vibe out of it.

Let's face it, 90% of the gaming population doesn't want DA:O again, they want DA:O mixed with ME2; ME2 was as winning formula for Bioware and I think they will start using it for most of their games.

I don't plan on playing DA2, because its not my cup of tea, but seeing gameplay footage it's not as bad as I expected.  In fact, it looks fun.  Maybe not all cerebral like DA:O, but possibly more "fun" in the pure sense of the word.

At this point I think Bioware will have two "philosophies" one for the MMO space with ToR which I expect to be a "true" PC game with all of the complexity and dressings and the console development team who concentrates on story and action-y combat.

Frankly I was very negative about this in the past (like 4 hours ago lol) but having seen some gameplay footage I can understand why Bioware is making the change.  It appeals to more people and loses some of the "nerd" vibe that DA:O had.

So, my advice: play ToR if you liked Bioware of the last decade, and stop worrying about the consolification of their other fanchises.

Based on what exactly?  And my advice: stay far away from MMOs.  They suck people dry! 

[Ulous]

the originality of this thread is overwhelming.

[Monica83]

Mass effect and dragon age must be different... Merge dragon age on mass effect will make maybe mass effect better... Merge mass effect in dragon age is just terrible... Its not philosophy per se its a logical analisys of what DAO features have and what DA2 features have....



The only feature da2 have is the graphic... But an rpg streamlized as hell its not a Rpg... DA2 lose what maded DAO a nice rpg... And this is bad...



The difference is that... Some people thinks rpg as videogames.. Some others love rpg as a true passion and when a title loose too much many features is always bad...

Calling nerd the people that loves old school rpg is wrong...Also Calling monkey the people that plays console is wrong....



Also the "Leave dragon age 2 alone right now!" of some fanboys is wrong...



For me DA2 is not DA its another complete different game... And not so much rpg much more a sort of beat em up with a story and rpg elements....Same for mass effect... a shooter with a story with rpg elements....



For me those title are rpg:

Baldur's gate saga

Icewind dale saga

Neverwinter nights saga

Dragon age origins of course..

and Planescape torment....

[FellowerOfOdin]

If you want a real Bioware game and a real RPG, buy the Baldur's Gate Complete Edition.



If you want a heavily streamlined game that betrays its own roots, go buy DA2.

[Ziggeh]

SLAP IN THE FACE

[Ulous]

Monica83 wrote...


For me those title are rpg:
Baldur's gate saga
Icewind dale saga
Neverwinter nights saga
Dragon age origins of course..
and Planescape torment....

They are also "OLD" games (apart from DAO which is very different to the other titles), DA2 is a new game, a new game with new ideas and new mechanics.

 

[ErichHartmann]

FellowerOfOdin wrote...

If you want a real Bioware game and a real RPG, buy the Baldur's Gate Complete Edition.

If you want a heavily streamlined game that betrays its own roots, go buy DA2.

The Witcher 2 > everything else.   

[Monica83]

The problem fellower is this i never wanted they change the mass effect formula... The problem begins when you have a game and you make a broken sequel poor of features that feels complete different from the original game... This mean slaps face at the people that loved the first game.. Now some people are happy at the same way some like me are just disgusted by this... Anyways the mistake is did... Turn dragon age in some other.... Imagine if a mass effect 3 will be a sort of platform game like mario or metroid.. I imagine many mass effect fan screams in anger and they have right to do it...Changing evrything from a game is always bad... Its not wrong complain for what they are making with dragon age 2 its a shame... why?

Because on future a see bioware in a different way.. Less coherent simple

[Monica83]

I just love and whait TW2 i love it too

[Monica83]

Yes a new game but with much lose features frome those OLD games

[Ulous]

FellowerOfOdin wrote...


If you want a heavily streamlined game that betrays its own roots, go buy DA2.

What roots? DA2 is a root of its own, the root of a new flower that will bloom to the modernization of Bioware RPG's.

Modifié par Ulous, 19 novembre 2010 - 07:17 .

[Dave of Canada]

"DA2 SUCKS IT'S LIKE AN ACTION RPG THAT HAS A VOICED PC AND ZOMFG IT'S BAD
WITCHER IS AMAZING OMFG LOOK AT THAT ACTION RPG AMAZINGNESS WITH THE VOICED PC AND EVERYTHING"


It's getting rather frustrating and I can't tell when somebody is joking or not.

Modifié par Dave of Canada, 19 novembre 2010 - 07:17 .

[The Masked Rog]

I want a game like DA:O. And that's precisely why I'm buying DA2. It even loses some features that detracted from my fun, while keeping the same overall gameplay. Great!

And why do people constantly mention TW2 in opposition to Dragon Age 2. They have announced it will be shorter, more story packed (like DA2) and it has always been much "dumber" than DA2, it doesn't even have the ability of changing swords. Funny how people who complain about DA2 lack of companion customization praise TW2 wihch doesn't allow for PC customization anywhere the same level of DA2.

Modifié par The Masked Rog, 19 novembre 2010 - 07:21 .

[Ziggeh]

Monica83 wrote...
This mean slaps face at the people that loved the first game..

haha, ah man

[Teknor]

FellowerOfOdin wrote...

If you want a real Bioware game and a real RPG, buy the Baldur's Gate Complete Edition.

If you want a heavily streamlined game that betrays its own roots, go buy DA2.

Sickening elitism.

[ErichHartmann]

I primarily play BioWare games for the storylines. RPG mechanics are less important to me than good writing.

[Ziggeh]

Ulous wrote...

FellowerOfOdin wrote...


If you want a heavily streamlined game that betrays its own roots, go buy DA2.

What roots?

Indeed, I would like someone to describe what that actually means, because I suspect what they usually mean is "I don't like the sound of it, but have no idea why"

[haberman13]

I'm not joking at all. DA2 looks like a lot of fun. I won't buy it because I will be playing Cataclysm instead (quit when I'm max lvl). I'm a sucker for stats and gear, so DA:O was my type of game.

No backhanded insult intended, I kind of had an epiphany while watching a DA2 gameplay video that made me step back and see it for what it was: a fun game. Kind of like Ninja Gaiden (awesome console game back in the day) mixed with DA:O.

ToR on the other hand will be ALL about stats/gear/min-maxing with some Bioware story on top (winning formula IMO).

A true "DA2" is actually the Witcher 2, from what I've seen of each game at least.

Modifié par haberman13, 19 novembre 2010 - 07:24 .

[Amyntas]

According to Gamespot, "Mass Effect 2 was a solid hit, selling over 1.6 million units as of May"
http://www.gamespot....adlines;title;5

And according to gamercenteronline "BioWare has just announced that Dragon Age: Origins has sold over 3.2 million units worldwide, granting Dragon Age triple platinum status." This was in February.
http://www.gamercent...platinum-sales/

I like ME2, but Dragon Age didn't have to copy ME2. It did very well commercially.

Modifié par Amyntas, 19 novembre 2010 - 07:26 .

[Nerivant]

ErichHartmann wrote...

I primarily play BioWare games for the storylines. RPG mechanics are less important to me than good writing.

I agree with you. Completely. It's one of the things I look for first when considering a game.

However, in before "then go watch a movie ******."