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[Ulous]

slimgrin wrote...

I wonder if Laidlaw has any hair left after reading these posts.

Of course not because A) He knows only a tiny minority of the community actually come to the internet to air their opinions, and because he also knows most people only say something about a game when they have got something bad to say.

slimgrin wrote...
 Your assumptions are still based on a dearth of solid info.

How can you know what any one persons assumption is based on? my assumption is mostly based on the fact that every Bioware game I've owned has been superb, I have no reason to believe they could destroy a franchise in one foul swoop, plus i do actually like what little info I have heard about the game.

Modifié par Ulous, 19 novembre 2010 - 08:05 .

[Maverick827]

I honestly do not see how the OP can reject DA2 because of gameplay alterations yet tout TOR as "BioWare of the last decade" seeing as TOR is basically the ME/ME2/DA2 paradigm in MMO form.

Also, Witcher 2, lol

Modifié par Maverick827, 19 novembre 2010 - 08:04 .

[Monica83]

THose two are addressed like action rpg right? so they are comparable

[Dave of Canada]

If DAII is an ARPG, does that mean Origins was one as well? Considering it essentially plays the same?

[haberman13]

I think the complaints stem from the ME2 transition into a shooter. Now we (PC gamers at least) assume Bioware is "dumbing" it down for broader appeal. Argue the validity of the statement all you want, the fact is the PC community sees this as a change in Bioware's direction.

[Catsith]

Amyntas wrote...

According to Gamespot, "Mass Effect 2 was a solid hit, selling over 1.6 million units as of May"
http://www.gamespot....adlines;title;5

And according to gamercenteronline "BioWare has just announced that Dragon Age: Origins has sold over 3.2 million units worldwide, granting Dragon Age triple platinum status." This was in February.
http://www.gamercent...platinum-sales/

I like ME2, but Dragon Age didn't have to copy ME2. It did very well commercially.

EA loves metacritic, they really do. ME2 is one of the highest rated games of all time, and they definitely want that from DA2 now.

DA:O  was a big success (especially being an oldschool RPG), but it had a 5-6 year development time. Other games with 5 year development times and similar budgets like Red Dead and FFXIII sold 2x as much.. which is why we're seeing a quick sequel for DA2 now. 

[ErichHartmann]

Maverick827 wrote...

Also, Witcher 2, lol

Hmmmm....why the lol?  I'll eat my copy of The Witcher 2 if it's not the best reviewed RPG of 2011.  (Don't quote me on that.)

[Ulous]

haberman13 wrote...

 the PC community sees this as a change in Bioware's direction.

What statistics do you have to back up this claim? you can speak for yourself by all means, but for an whole community? There are millions of PC gamers out there, not even %1 of them are going to air their opinion on DA2.

[haberman13]

ErichHartmann wrote...

Maverick827 wrote...

Also, Witcher 2, lol

Hmmmm....why the lol?  I'll eat my copy of The Witcher 2 if it's not the best reviewed RPG of 2011.  (Don't quote me on that.)

I would have to agree, TW2 looks like the spiritual successor to DA2.

DA2 looks like spiritual successor to Ninja Gaiden mixed with Zelda.  Maybe Bioware is simply selling it wrong, but all the indications I get from them are that DA2 is now a button masher with combos.

[lv12medic]

DA2 may not be the Original Poster's cup of tea, considering there are restricted outfits for DA2 companions. DA2 won't allow min/maxing of everything for every character.

But I don't see DA2 as a bad design at all.

I would like to say more, but I fear it will just lead to more Console vs. PC nonsense. I will say this, Bioware, after being successful for so long, has a position to attempt new things instead of the same old same old. And that also goes into how their games are designed. It has already been decided that Dragon Age games are available for PC, Xbox360, and PS3. I see Bioware attempting to make a game that can be successful across the board and play well on all systems. I hope they can prove that games can be developed concurrently rather than made for one system and then ported with less than spectacular results.

[Maria Caliban]

Dave of Canada wrote...

If DAII is an ARPG, does that mean Origins was one as well? Considering it essentially plays the same?

BioWare marketed it as an action RPG. Whether it was or not depends on your personal definition.

[Ziggeh]

haberman13 wrote...

all the indications I get from them are that DA2 is now a button masher with combos.

All the indications I get tell me it's a side scrolling space based flash game.

[Ziggeh]

lv12medic wrote...

considering there are restricted outfits for DA2 companions. DA2 won't allow min/maxing of everything for every character.

Depending on how upgradable those outfits are it could well mean more potential for min/maxing.

[Herr Uhl]

haberman13 wrote...

I would have to agree, TW2 looks like the spiritual successor to DA2.

DA2 looks like spiritual successor to Ninja Gaiden mixed with Zelda.  Maybe Bioware is simply selling it wrong, but all the indications I get from them are that DA2 is now a button masher with combos.

*scratches head*

Come again?

[Dave of Canada]

Maria Caliban wrote...

Dave of Canada wrote...

If DAII is an ARPG, does that mean Origins was one as well? Considering it essentially plays the same?

BioWare marketed it as an action RPG. Whether it was or not depends on your personal definition.

Oh, I know it was. I'm just asking for the people that seem to believe that DA:O was the pinnacle of CRPG greatness.

[Ulous]

ErichHartmann wrote...


Hmmmm....why the lol?  I'll eat my copy of The Witcher 2 if it's not the best reviewed RPG of 2011.  (Don't quote me on that.)

I Thought TW1 was a terrible game but of course that is just my opinion, but even the fans must have to admit TW2 will have to be a much better game than TW1 was to recieve scores 9 and above.

[haberman13]

Ulous wrote...

haberman13 wrote...

 the PC community sees this as a change in Bioware's direction.

What statistics do you have to back up this claim? you can speak for yourself by all means, but for an whole community? There are millions of PC gamers out there, not even %1 of them are going to air their opinion on DA2.

True true.... I'm going off of posts like this that are literally on EVERY game forum I visit:

http://boards.ign.co...97712458/p1/?13

[Monica83]

CRPG greatness of all times are title like BG saga or planescape torment...

[slimgrin]

Herr Uhl wrote...

haberman13 wrote...

I would have to agree, TW2 looks like the spiritual successor to DA2.

DA2 looks like spiritual successor to Ninja Gaiden mixed with Zelda.  Maybe Bioware is simply selling it wrong, but all the indications I get from them are that DA2 is now a button masher with combos.

*scratches head*

Come again?

That was my reaction. Although I do agree Bioware's marketing has been less than stellar. Otherwise there wouldn't be so much confusion about the game. 

Modifié par slimgrin, 19 novembre 2010 - 08:15 .

[Dave of Canada]

haberman13 wrote...

DA2 looks like spiritual successor to Ninja Gaiden mixed with Zelda.  Maybe Bioware is simply selling it wrong, but all the indications I get from them are that DA2 is now a button masher with combos.

Bioware essentially says it's a faster version of Origins.
That's what it plays like.

Unless using say... Two-handed Sweep and Sunder Armor afterwards in Origins was a combo.

[lv12medic]

Dave of Canada wrote...

haberman13 wrote...

DA2 looks like spiritual successor to Ninja Gaiden mixed with Zelda.  Maybe Bioware is simply selling it wrong, but all the indications I get from them are that DA2 is now a button masher with combos.

Bioware essentially says it's a faster version of Origins.
That's what it plays like.

Unless using say... Two-handed Sweep and Sunder Armor afterwards in Origins was a combo.

There were spell combos...

[Herr Uhl]

Monica83 wrote...

CRPG greatness of all times are title like BG saga or planescape torment...

PS:T a good story with a horrid battle system, almost no character customization and less than stellar graphics and animations for the time.

What are your complaints about DA2 again?

[Monica83]

Faster version of origins but full of lack features also.... I don't see anything from origin in this "Sequel"

[Slayer299]

ErichHartmann wrote...

FellowerOfOdin wrote...

If you want a real Bioware game and a real RPG, buy the Baldur's Gate Complete Edition.

If you want a heavily streamlined game that betrays its own roots, go buy DA2.

The Witcher 2 > everything else.   

Hopefully, I just cancelled my DA2 and preordered TW2 based on a friend's recommendation about it.

[Monica83]

What make planescape great was the story one of most beauty for me.. Of course if someone present a game with words like:"think like a general fight like a spartan" i scratch my head lol