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AKOdin wrote...

Interesting Thread. I think it probable that BW will act to conserve/focus dev resources by culling a similar portion of characters from ME2 that they did in ME3. This means that 33% of the characters will be killed/cameos only.

Characters who WON’T be squadmates:
Anderson: Frankly, he is not powerful enough to join the frontlines against the reapers. He is not a biotic, possessed of any sort of technological skills, or superior combat ability (any more). Further, the most recent novel suggests he is retiring/resigning from an active role in the council/alliance, and has a new significant other.

Kal’regaar: Again, nothing in his background suggests he is capable of joining Shepherd’s elite squad. He barely survived against ordinary Geth, and lacks Tali’s superior tech knowledge. Kel is a recon soldier (and prone to infection, apparently). His backstory doesn't seem suited to an epic conclusion and he is pretty pedestrian in power. No reason for him to be in as anything beyond his current type of role.

Wrex: First, he is dead in the canon story. Second, BW created a rather elegant way of including him if players did save him in ME1. A large role rallying the Krogan to help against the Reapers, but not as a squad member.

Thane: I think BW will kill off some characters in the canon resolution of the suicide mission. This allows players who DID save everyone a reward in game, and allows them to reinforce the dangerous nature of the mission “in universe.” Thane is probable as a killed-off character, as his backstory provides a logical reason for him NOT to be a squad member in ME3 even if an import save kept him alive- his progressive and fatal disease. Players who did save him can interact with him in a hospital/convalescence setting. This also allows those who romanced him and saved him resolution in a way that does not require a large amount of Dev resources.

Samara/Morinth: The main possibilities associated with this story arc render it virtually impossible for any scenario BUT NPC/Cameo.
  1) Samara not recruited.
  2) Samara recruited but no loyalty mission, so Morinth AND Samara exist in game. 2a) Samara survives suicide mission. 2b) Samara dies.
  3)Samara recruited but dumped for Morinth, who then either 3a) lives or 3b) dies.
So… to give the arc proper treatment while still making the rest of ME3, I think a kill off in canon with cameos in import is likely. Full squad member treatment would be a nightmare of extra lines, etc…

Mordin: I think his character is awesome, but need for Dev resources make the “he is an old Salarian” argument really powerful. He is past his prime, though still capable of rendering tech/research assistance in base. He could even be a canon kill (ack!) easily replaced by a NPC science/research character if there is no import save. Not a squad member.

Zaeed/Kasumi: Cameos. The backstory for each suggests no reason to stay with Shep once the suicide mission is over. Additionally, as import saves may not contain them/have any contact with them, this is another area where BW can save themselves from development hell by NOT making them potential squadmates.

Potentials

Aria: Given her set up on Omega and BW's desire to create more LotSB-esque DLC, she seems like a solid candidate for an upcoming pack. So, I feel that discussions of her as a squaddie for ME 3 are premature. Her position on Omega could be enhanced or destroyed during the DLC, for example.

Jack: Her back story and dialogue suggests her as an eventual recruit-able character. She MUST be recruited to advance the plot. Further, at the end of ME2, I've seen her reaction to Shep as "F Off" or "I don't want to play." Additionally, nothing in her conversations suggests she has abandoned a life of violence and crime, so it is probable that she makes a beeline for independence once the Collectors are dealt with. Her storyline as a biotic superpower also make her addition desirable in any final confrontations. .

Legion: As a platform designed to contact/interface with organics in general and Shepherd in particular, I think he will be making a return as a squad member in ME3. His "experiences" can be uploaded to the Geth via a FTL connection (as evidenced by EDI allowing connection when you upgrade his weapon)- what need for him to leave organic space?

Kaiden/Ashley: Cameos. The role they play in combat is replaced already (Grunt/Zaeed for Ashley and Miranda/Others? for Kaiden). As LI's, they have been confirmed as being in, but why make them squad members? Easy Alliance liaison role and LI wrapup.

Garrus: I agree that his backstory suggests remaining with Shep, and BW still has a lot they can do with his story when getting the Turians to commit to fight the Reapers. So, pretty probable squad member.

Jacob/Miranda: As potential LI’s, they have to be in, but cameos make the most sense. And like ME2’s treatment of the Virmire situation, the opposite gender is an easy canon kill.

A shoe-in?

Grunt: No reason to leave his battlemaster, and he must be acquired to advance the story. While it is possible for the player to kill him off during the suicide mission, the player has to almost engineer his death.

*looks up* Wow… longer than intended! :?

(Edited for spelling and clarity)

why do u think there gonna get rid of evrybody because it happend at the start of 2 
also just because kasumi and zaeed are dlc doesnt mean there gonna be cut because lotsb is dlc and that cqant be cut

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AKOdin wrote...

Interesting Thread. I think it probable that BW will act to conserve/focus dev resources by culling a similar portion of characters from ME2 that they did in ME3. This means that 33% of the characters will be killed/cameos only.


We have similar ideas.
How should ME3 start?


But what I disagree:


Aria: Given her set up on Omega and BW's desire to create more LotSB-esque DLC, she seems like a solid candidate for an upcoming pack. So, I feel that discussions of her as a squaddie for ME 3 are premature. Her position on Omega could be enhanced or destroyed during the DLC, for example.


I doubt she likes to be boss around.


Garrus: I agree that his backstory suggests remaining with Shep, and BW still has a lot they can do with his story when getting the Turians to commit to fight the Reapers. So, pretty probable squad member.


I doubt Garrus can do anything with that.
I never heard Garrus has some political pulls.
For Turians it depends did you save or did you not saved Council.



Jacob/Miranda: As potential LI’s, they have to be in, but cameos make the most sense. And like ME2’s treatment of the Virmire situation, the opposite gender is an easy canon kill.


I doubt it.
None of them makes sense to leave.
LI or not.



BTW there is no canon in ME, just default.


Also for Kasumi and Zaeed.
Agreed they won't be in Shep squad but I think there will be camoes with important side quests.
You know, Alliance scandal info and Blue Suns with Vido or not.

Modifié par Mesina2, 21 novembre 2010 - 10:56 .


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Mesina2 wrote...

AKOdin wrote...

Interesting Thread. I think it probable that BW will act to conserve/focus dev resources by culling a similar portion of characters from ME2 that they did in ME3. This means that 33% of the characters will be killed/cameos only.


We have similar ideas.
How should ME3 start?


But what I disagree:

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Aria: Given her set up on Omega and BW's desire to create more LotSB-esque DLC, she seems like a solid candidate for an upcoming pack. So, I feel that discussions of her as a squaddie for ME 3 are premature. Her position on Omega could be enhanced or destroyed during the DLC, for example.


I doubt she likes to be boss around.

Garrus: I agree that his backstory suggests remaining with Shep, and BW still has a lot they can do with his story when getting the Turians to commit to fight the Reapers. So, pretty probable squad member.


I doubt Garrus can do anything with that.
I never heard Garrus has some political pulls.
For Turians it depends did you save or did you not saved Council.


[b]Jacob/Miranda: As potential LI’s, they have to be in, but cameos make the most sense. And like ME2’s treatment of the Virmire situation, the opposite gender is an easy canon kill.


I doubt it.
None of them makes sense to leave.
LI or not.



BTW there is no canon in ME, just default.

yea its like in dragon age its your universe thats why they have an import system its your world its not like star wars the force unleashed where the light side is canon because there is no import

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gethslayer7 wrote( and me edited)...

personally all are squad from 2 will be there

Miranda
Jacob
Jack
Garrus
Mordin( not in squad but gives you big discount of resources in researching)
Grunt
Tali
Thane( he is so dead in ME3)
Samara( leaves you with loyalty or not but camoe will be there)
Kasumi( leaves you with loyalty or not, I think only possible camoe if you let her keep greybox)
Zaeed( leaves you with loyalty or not, if loyal he will ask you to help him take over Blue Suns and if not killed, kill Vido)
Wrex or Wreave( Wrex can't do it and HELL NO for Wreave)
Ashely or Kaiden( maybe)
Liara( nope, she is Shadow Broker)
Fenron( nope, he helps Liara)
Koyalt( hell no)
Blue Sun( Zaeed?)
Eclipse( no)
Mirandas sister( lol, your kidding?)
Aria( I'm sure she doesn't want to be boss around)
Sheps brother or sister( since they were never mentioned in ME1 or 2 that would be stupid)
Joker fighter( YES!)

Modifié par Mesina2, 21 novembre 2010 - 11:06 .


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gethslayer7 wrote...

AKOdin wrote...

Interesting Thread. I think it probable that BW will act to conserve/focus dev resources by culling a similar portion of characters from ME2 that they did in ME3. This means that 33% of the characters will be killed/cameos only.

Characters who WON’T be squadmates:
Anderson: Frankly, he is not powerful enough to join the frontlines against the reapers. He is not a biotic, possessed of any sort of technological skills, or superior combat ability (any more). Further, the most recent novel suggests he is retiring/resigning from an active role in the council/alliance, and has a new significant other.

Kal’regaar: Again, nothing in his background suggests he is capable of joining Shepherd’s elite squad. He barely survived against ordinary Geth, and lacks Tali’s superior tech knowledge. Kel is a recon soldier (and prone to infection, apparently). His backstory doesn't seem suited to an epic conclusion and he is pretty pedestrian in power. No reason for him to be in as anything beyond his current type of role.

Wrex: First, he is dead in the canon story. Second, BW created a rather elegant way of including him if players did save him in ME1. A large role rallying the Krogan to help against the Reapers, but not as a squad member.

Thane: I think BW will kill off some characters in the canon resolution of the suicide mission. This allows players who DID save everyone a reward in game, and allows them to reinforce the dangerous nature of the mission “in universe.” Thane is probable as a killed-off character, as his backstory provides a logical reason for him NOT to be a squad member in ME3 even if an import save kept him alive- his progressive and fatal disease. Players who did save him can interact with him in a hospital/convalescence setting. This also allows those who romanced him and saved him resolution in a way that does not require a large amount of Dev resources.

Samara/Morinth: The main possibilities associated with this story arc render it virtually impossible for any scenario BUT NPC/Cameo.
  1) Samara not recruited.
  2) Samara recruited but no loyalty mission, so Morinth AND Samara exist in game. 2a) Samara survives suicide mission. 2b) Samara dies.
  3)Samara recruited but dumped for Morinth, who then either 3a) lives or 3b) dies.
So… to give the arc proper treatment while still making the rest of ME3, I think a kill off in canon with cameos in import is likely. Full squad member treatment would be a nightmare of extra lines, etc…

Mordin: I think his character is awesome, but need for Dev resources make the “he is an old Salarian” argument really powerful. He is past his prime, though still capable of rendering tech/research assistance in base. He could even be a canon kill (ack!) easily replaced by a NPC science/research character if there is no import save. Not a squad member.

Zaeed/Kasumi: Cameos. The backstory for each suggests no reason to stay with Shep once the suicide mission is over. Additionally, as import saves may not contain them/have any contact with them, this is another area where BW can save themselves from development hell by NOT making them potential squadmates.

Potentials

Aria: Given her set up on Omega and BW's desire to create more LotSB-esque DLC, she seems like a solid candidate for an upcoming pack. So, I feel that discussions of her as a squaddie for ME 3 are premature. Her position on Omega could be enhanced or destroyed during the DLC, for example.

Jack: Her back story and dialogue suggests her as an eventual recruit-able character. She MUST be recruited to advance the plot. Further, at the end of ME2, I've seen her reaction to Shep as "F Off" or "I don't want to play." Additionally, nothing in her conversations suggests she has abandoned a life of violence and crime, so it is probable that she makes a beeline for independence once the Collectors are dealt with. Her storyline as a biotic superpower also make her addition desirable in any final confrontations. .

Legion: As a platform designed to contact/interface with organics in general and Shepherd in particular, I think he will be making a return as a squad member in ME3. His "experiences" can be uploaded to the Geth via a FTL connection (as evidenced by EDI allowing connection when you upgrade his weapon)- what need for him to leave organic space?

Kaiden/Ashley: Cameos. The role they play in combat is replaced already (Grunt/Zaeed for Ashley and Miranda/Others? for Kaiden). As LI's, they have been confirmed as being in, but why make them squad members? Easy Alliance liaison role and LI wrapup.

Garrus: I agree that his backstory suggests remaining with Shep, and BW still has a lot they can do with his story when getting the Turians to commit to fight the Reapers. So, pretty probable squad member.

Jacob/Miranda: As potential LI’s, they have to be in, but cameos make the most sense. And like ME2’s treatment of the Virmire situation, the opposite gender is an easy canon kill.

A shoe-in?

Grunt: No reason to leave his battlemaster, and he must be acquired to advance the story. While it is possible for the player to kill him off during the suicide mission, the player has to almost engineer his death.

*looks up* Wow… longer than intended! :?

(Edited for spelling and clarity)

why do u think there gonna get rid of evrybody because it happend at the start of 2 
also just because kasumi and zaeed are dlc doesnt mean there gonna be cut because lotsb is dlc and that cqant be cut



Because its often easier than to explain to new players what happened in the prior one, and have to interact and evolve the past crew into new one, also its likely that Bioware thinks that people wanna see new faces aswell, and lastly Bioware always been about storyline and being part of the story shaping, which would also suggest they wanna open more doors for people who dident play mass effect 1 or 2 to shape their own shepard and his direction as part the exsperience.

And true to what one said earlier nothing indicate Kal'regaar is very combat able but he is bold however the explain he gives to some things when you talk to him suggest that, like his much earlier pilgrimage, also if Tali is indeed killed off canon wise which would be likely, then he may play a vital part as to bringing the migrant fleet into the final showdown battle against the reapers.

Modifié par Lowenhart, 21 novembre 2010 - 02:20 .


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Wittand25 wrote...

Companions are one of the most work and resource intensive things Bioware does in their games (see posts of the DA2 team in the DA2 forum) so it is very unlikely that Bioware will make old teammates return as teammates because that involves a lot of work for content that requires the player to play another game to be able to access it.
My theory is that the ME3 team will leave for various reasons. Some will only send Shepard emails or video mails, others you will meet as NPCs later in game. The big pay off for your decisions regarding the squadmates will only happen during the epilogue, E.g. if you romanced Tali in ME2 and helped the Quarians to return to their homeworld in ME3 you get a picture of Shepard and Tali with text that says something like "After the end of the reaper thread Shepard was able to give his love the home she always dreamed of".

Edited for spelling.


More effort on their part to bring characters back that aleady have an established history and loyalty to shepard than to create an entire new cast that need entire new backstories, entire new voice actors, entire new reasons why they're with shepard instead of the old crew (Because if you honestly are going to say the "canon" SM is everyone died, you're stupid.  That's all), entire new reasons why they're loyal?

Nope.  Bringing back the old crew is the better choice.  Less effort.  And before you go off on a tangent about how bioware will be "wasting" resources, no they won't.  But they have to create content for all the squad members and it's all useless if they get killed!  Well guess what?  In ME2 they made content for both virmire survivors lovers or otherwise, they made content for wrex/other NPC should wrex be dead, content for lovers liara/non lovers, etc etc and yet nobody is going to see it all on a single game.  By that logic bioware shouldn't have bothered adding wrex, virmire survivor, or liara at all, because they're a  "waste of resources"

Let's not forget dragon age, now.  All characters there have their own quests, dialog depending on what other character is with them, etc.  You won't get all the content on your first playthrough because you will miss companion quests, you will miss unique dialogs, etc.  Is that all "wasted resources" to you?

The point of this thread was to make a middle ground between the unrealistic extreems of "Nobody will return because they all have the -possibility- of dieing in ME2 and they're a "wast of resources" because I said so and I want brand new characters because I can't handle old things being reused" and "Everyone will come back, no matter what.  Wrex will suddenly join shepard even though he's the new leader of the krogans and liara will suddenly stop being the shadow broker to join shepard."  But so far that doesn't seem to be happening, because both sides are always looking for ways to try and shove their opinions down everybody's throat.

*Golf clap*

Modifié par Sereaph502, 21 novembre 2010 - 06:47 .


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I can reason for any or all of the current squadmates (at least those who survived the Suicide Mission) to return in ME3. I can probably also come up with a reason why they wouldn't, but chances are if they've survived they'll likely make a cameo.
Anyways since this is all conjecture here's my list:

Ashley/Kaidan: I can see them rejoining your squad, maybe if only temporary, but since either one is supposed to play a key role in ME3 we'll likely see quite a bit of them anyways.

Liara: Not recruitable (although who knows, maybe you'll get her for a brief mission). Most likely she's be a Quest/Mission giver as well as a supplier. I expect to see plenty of her through out the game.

Garrus: He'll return as a squadmate. However I think he's a likely candidate for a Virmire type scene where you have a chance to lose him.

Tali: I actually think she'll be back. Especially if you couldn't win her trial. She'll likely play a key role in Quarian/Geth relations unless thats handled via DLC. Worst case scenario, she's not a squad member but the Normandy's chief engineering officer so she'll be aboard the ship, maybe give you missions and such. Like her or not I think she's too important to the story line. Like Garrus I can see her possibly having a death scene in game.

Wrex: Not in. He's either dead or busy leading the Krogan. If he's alive I'm sure he'll have an impressive cameo.

Jack: Out unless you romance her. She really doesn't have much reason to stay otherwise. Still likely to make a cameo.

Jacob: I'd say out, unless you romanced him. However I think he'd still play as an asset, so while he may not be a squadmate you'll likely still interact with him at some point in the story.

Miranda: In. If for whatever reason she's not a full squadmate I don't think she'll give up her spot as XO of the Normandy.

Thane: Cameo. Maybe you'll get to see him die in peace.

Moridin: Either Cameo or he stays on the Normandy as a quest giver and the guy you talk to upgrade stuff.

Grunt: Your his battlemaster. He's not going anywhere. You'll maybe have to fetch him from breeding duties.

Samara/Morinth: Gone although obvious cameo potential, especially Morinth.

Legion: He's in. I can see where you may not start off with him and have to re-recruit him. If he and Tali are alive there's just too much story potential.

Zaeed/Kasumi: DLC bait! They have no reason to stay after the Suicide Mission, however each one can be used again via DLC. If not I'm sure they'll make a cameo, maybe give you a mission or two. That said I would love to have Kasumi back, she was one of the better written characters of ME2 and took over Tali's role from ME1 of "combat wisecracker".

Kal'Reager: Not a squadmate but who doesn't love Adam Baldwin? Cameo!

Illusive Man: He'll be in (not as a squadmate obviously). I can see ME3 being a faction game with several endings depending on who you helped or not.

EDI & Joker: Both will be back I'm sure. I'm still holding out for space combat where you play as Joker and EDI piloting the Normandy and blowing up enemy ships.

In short I figure we'll 4-6 squadmates back for sure from ME1&2 with the potential to recruit a few special ones or maybe just a temporary party member. I honestly think some will die in ME3 and there won't be much we can do about it. And of course I look forward to whatever new squadmates bioware can dream up.

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Okay, here goes.

Current Squaddies



Miranda: The only way i can see her not being there is if you dont do her loyalty mission and pull away from cerberus after the collector base, other wise she would stay. May stay anyway if TIM orders her to act as his mole onboard.

Jacob: The same reasoning applies, unlikely to go back to the alliance due to politics and bureaucracy.

Mordin: Age may force a more back room approach - will continue to research for you but wont go on missions - may depend on time difference between games.

Garrus: Will leave to chase Sidonis if loyalty mission not complete, otherwise will stay with Shepard maybe delegating more mission responsibilities to him?

Jack: Most likely to leave due to independent attitude, may stay if romanced.

Grunt: Very likely to stay as long as loyalty mission done. May go back to Tuchanka to help Krogan/learn more about them but will return if asked.

Samara: Will leave after game but has pledged to return if needed as long as Loyalty mission done.

Morinth: Only remains due to personal interest in Shepard, continued rebuttals will probably cause her to leave, unlikely to be recruitable again.

Thane: Depends on timeframe between games, more than 6 months = condition has progressed too far for him to be combat effective.

Tali: Automatically leaves if loyalty mission failed (says so in game), otherwise attachment to Shepard will keep her on board. May be able to convince her to take the admiralty job (al la Alistair for king in Dragon age).

Legion: Can communicate with other geth remotely so no need to return. If loyalty mission not done then will be affected by heretic virus and go rogue. If given to Cerberus then is scrap.

Zaeed: Hired gun so will probably leave after mission, possibility to recruit again if Vigo is dead or you agree to help him hunt Vigo down.

Kasumi: Leaves after mission either to go back to work or to protect the greybox. Possibility for recruitment.



New squaddies ?

Anderson: Not likely, too old for front line combat, will possibly in support role as intelligence analysis, mission planning or acquiring data/resources from contacts in the alliance.

Aria: Unlikely, doesn't take orders from others and probably more useful as an intermediary for the Terminus factions.

Liara: Engrossed as new Shadow broker or still hunting him if DLC is not done. May provide mission critical intel instead.

Virmire survivor: Possible if Shepard has distanced himself from Cerberus or the situation degenerates that the alliance has no choice but to work with Cerberus.

Kal'Reager: Dedicated to migrant fleet safety so unlikely to leave and join you. May appear as cameo leading a team of marines to help you out depending on the state of the fleet in ME3

Shiala: Former commando and only other person with access to the Prothean cypher. May be recruitable if you save the Feros colonists from a reaper attack. Offset by the fact that she can die in ME1 (personally hope she is available)



That'll do for now, sorry for wall o' text


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What about a hanar as a squad member?

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^

Hanar aren't particularly good fighters when outside of the water. Thane mentions this in a conversation on his assassin training.

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@TheAwesomeologist, mattylee10: I really like your analysis and find it interesting that a lot of people are reaching the same conclusions. I think I'm going to make a checklist to see how many people think the return of certain squadmates is likely. I could use it as a predictor for who's coming back. Yep. Massive nerd. Can you tell I'm into statistics?



@Sereaph502: THANK you for reminding folks what this thread is about. I'm glad to see I'm not the only one tired of the all-or-noners.

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AdmiralCheez wrote...

THE OLD TEAM

Zaeed/Kasumi: Being DLC, these guys seem the least likely to return.  They are both loners and were hired for a single job.  While I wouldn't be surprised if the popped up somewhere, a la Shiala and Parasini, I doubt they'll be recruitable.  Shame, cuz I love Kasumi. UNLIKELY RETURN.

Thane and Mordin:
Really popular characters, but Thane is dying and Mordin's old as dirt.  I wouldn't be surprised if they spontaneously keeled over.  A return would be welcome, though.  UNKNOWN.

Jack: Unstable.  While Shepard is the one person she can trust (assuming you gained her loyalty), she could just suddenly take off.  Not sure about her.  UNKNOWN.

Garrus and Tali: They've been with you since the beginning, and not including them would cause serious fan rage.  Unless you nuked them in the suicide mission, expect a triumphant return.  Although I can see Garrus running off on some crusade or Tali getting called back to the migrant fleet.  LIKELY RETURN.

Grunt: You're his battlemaster.  Unless clan Urdnot needs him, you're probably stuck with him.  LIKELY RETURN.

Legion: His mission is to study Shepard.  It's unclear whether or not his mission is complete.  Could very well stay, but as his nice seems to overlap with Garrus and Tali's, and they have a larger fan following, he might just get pushed aside.  UNKNOWN.

Jacob and Miranda:
Cerberus might yank them back in, but they are quite loyal to you.  However, the leading human characters have a habit of being replaced.  UNKNOWN.

Samara/Morinth:
As a Justicar, Samara has other duties.  Morinth will probably take off to go kill people.  UNLIKELY RETURN.

Wrex/Liara:
They have other duties now.  Wrex is King of the Krogans and Liara is the new Shadow Broker.  They'll probably be important allies, though.  UNLIKELY RETURN.

Ashley/Kaidan: Bioware has hinted that the Virmire survivor will play an important role in ME3.  Whether this is as a squadmate or ally is unclear.  UNKNOWN.


I think Legion, given his importance as a unique geth, will have some considerable influence in the next game and most likely will become a squadmate.

I also feel that either Kaiden/Ashley will become a squadmate in the next game.

I think Aria has a higher chance of becoming a squadmate than any other Asari character: Liara's the SB; Samara/Morinth has her own motives to attend to; and Aria seems to have some history with Wrex, which gives her a peripheral relevance. There also were a couple sidequests that showed her grip on Omega loosening - remember the info leaks, etc.? - so it seems likely she'll be ousted in ME3.

Garrus is a must. Nuff said.

Since Shepard is Grunt's Battlemaster, he has a very high chance of remaining a squadmember.

I think Thane will most likely die before the game is finished, so he has a flimsy chance of being a squad member. Can't say about the others.

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@Rekkampum: I agree with everything you said except the Aria thing. I can see her in a support role, perhaps a TEMPORARY squadmate a la Liara in Shadow Broker, but following Shep around and taking orders from him just isn't her style.

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I'm so screwed if that was the case... Legion died in my canon playthrough.

Was talking to Rek BTW.

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@ AdmiralCheez,



Yeah, Aria's my fantasy pick for ME3 squadmates. Including her could create some interesting tension, just like Miranda and Jacqueline in ME2.

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I can imagine the writers reading every post in this thread. Seriously, some of your theories are really good.

Honestly, once Garrus and Tali stay I couldn't care less. And if Bioware get rid of them there WILL be riots and many death threats...lol.

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Characters like Mordin and Grunt or Tali and Legion have central rhole in some important subplots, and also are very popular. I expect to see something like 1\\2 of the ME2 team back, with Samara, Zaeed, Kasumi and Jack as more possible losses (not a tragic thing imho). Also, probably there will be at least one new Pg for each class of chacter, to avoid that the losses at the end of ME2 left your team unbalanced in terms of variety. But they probably will be whole new characters most likely than returning ones.



The worst possible thing would be another twist like at the beginning of ME2 who forces us to re-assemble a whole new squad lefting all the other character as Npcs. That would make me REALLY angry, event then the new team will made of 100% awesome characters. If BW don't wanna get mad to develop the existing chars with the excuse that they can all die in the Suicide Mission, than they shouldn't have to do it.

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NoMoreGeth wrote...

I can imagine the writers reading every post in this thread. Seriously, some of your theories are really good.
Honestly, once Garrus and Tali stay I couldn't care less. And if Bioware get rid of them there WILL be riots and many death threats...lol.


I know, I'd be pissed off if Garrus and Tali aren't squad members. But people shouldn't forget that Mass Effect 3 is meant to be the last game in a trilogy, not a game with a huge amount of fanservice.

I can already imagine all the complaining: "Hey, why is X not in this game? Y is in Mass Effect 3, that's not fair!"

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Alienmorph,

Yeah, the whole Super Metroid stat reboot was frustrating, but it was believable at least. Won't be the case in the third, though.

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Alienmorph wrote...

Characters like Mordin and Grunt or Tali and Legion have central rhole in some important subplots, and also are very popular. I expect to see something like 1\\\\\\\\2 of the ME2 team back, with Samara, Zaeed, Kasumi and Jack as more possible losses (not a tragic thing imho). Also, probably there will be at least one new Pg for each class of chacter, to avoid that the losses at the end of ME2 left your team unbalanced in terms of variety. But they probably will be whole new characters most likely than returning ones.

The worst possible thing would be another twist like at the beginning of ME2 who forces us to re-assemble a whole new squad lefting all the other character as Npcs. That would make me REALLY angry, event then the new team will made of 100% awesome characters. If BW don't wanna get mad to develop the existing chars with the excuse that they can all die in the Suicide Mission, than they shouldn't have to do it.


Assuming all your squadmates survive, it is quite likely to happen.  At
the end of ME2 we see Reapers powering up in Dark Space making their
way to our Galaxy. 

Unless they can reach our galaxy very fast, chances are some of our squadmates wouldn't be hanging around with Shepard for 3 - 5 years.   Some if not most would have been gone by then.   The very least they will do is to cover these characters via cameo appearances like VS / Wrex / Liara.

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I was hoping to see Conrad Verner return as a potential...  I know it sounds silly but it would be kind of fun to see him develop from an useless fan to someone who could be an asset in Shepard's team.   Kind of like whipping his ass into shape.  

He could start off by helping Chef Gardner perform menial tasks onboard the Normandy.  And since he has no background whatsoever, he is like a blank slate you can decide what to train him at.  His attitude & approach will also reflect the way you treat him, the things you did in previous ME games & how you handle things onwards in ME3.   

Modifié par Aurica, 22 novembre 2010 - 01:00 .


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Aurica,



It will be interesting to see what Conrad does this time. He's one of my favorite NPC's, apart from the Asari bartender.

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All LIs will be back. Also Wrex and Legion better be back.

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Slidell505 wrote...

All LIs will be back. Also Wrex and Legion better be back.


Why?

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AdmiralCheez wrote...

Slidell505 wrote...

All LIs will be back. Also Wrex and Legion better be back.


Why?

For the hell of it:whistle:.