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An oversight with the Liara romance? (Shadow Broker DLC)


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Rune-Chan

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This is assuming you romanced Liara in ME and wish to do so in ME2.

If you choose to complete the LOTSB prior to completing the suicide mission then Liara will show concern that you won't make it back as you have already died once and she doesn't want to lose you again. Assuming you choose to continue the relationship then you walay those fears and the relationship continues.

Fair enough.

Now logically once completing the Suicide Mission, upon returning to Liara there should be some dialogue that allows you to be reunited? At the very least the option to speak to her again to let her know you survived?

Instead she simply says "Thanks for stopping by" as though I never left and that's apparently it.

Does anybody else find this a little strange?

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Talogrungi

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Yeah, the "thanks for stopping by" is the dialogue equivalent of a brick wall.

Given that all DLC from now on will be designed to bridge to ME3, it might just be placeholder dialogue that will be replaced once the next major DLC launches.

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It is a bit of an oversight, and would be a very nice addition. LotSB was basically written for a post-Suicide Mission timeframe though, which is probably why it wasn't included.

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She says the same thing even if you do the Shadow Broker missions after the Suicide Mission. Same "Thanks for stopping by" or "Shepard, I'm glad you came" if your Shepard didn't romance her originally.

Modifié par StarcloudSWG, 20 novembre 2010 - 01:39 .


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StarcloudSWG wrote...

She says the same thing even if you do the Shadow Broker missions after the Suicide Mission. Same "Thanks for stopping by" or "Shepard, I'm glad you came" if your Shepard didn't romance her originally.

They can't have a never-ending stream of new dialogue. She keeps saying “thanks for stopping by” because there is nothing else left for her to say. It is a bit strange that you get nothing if you return after the suicide mission if you did LotSB first but judging by the fact that the collector base gets mentioned either way it was meant to be played after the suicide mission so they didn’t bother creating more dialogue (these things take time and money after all) to cater to those that played it before. Still it would have been nice had they added even one additional line. Maybe instead of "thanks for stoping by" she could say "I'm glad your okay" or somthing.

Modifié par Manic Sheep, 20 novembre 2010 - 02:57 .


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CyanidPontifex

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Think positively, she could be talking about calibrations.

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While I love LotSB I find any post suicide dialogue with dialogue exhausted characters incredibly empty. That's my main problem with the 'Thanks for stopping by' dialogue too. There's so much emotion during the DLC and like every other character and adventure planet exploration etc. comes off as vacuously silent puzzle solving. I actually chose to not explore the rest of the galaxy this play through and ended with LotSB to avoid the creepy silence.

I also played through with doing the DLC in the middle of the game and wish there was some sort of follow up after the suicide mission as well. Oh well, guess we just wait and see what the next DLC has in store for us.......

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I feel LotSB is more heavily weighted towards being played after the suicide mission, so it makes sense there's no more dialogue. However it would of been nice if there was some extra dialogue if you did finish the DLC before the suicide mission. Possible oversight, but small in terms of oversights in other DLCs (I do not work for Cerberus anymore!!).

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Yeah, just do it after the suicide mission. While it may be played before or after, it clearly was written with the assumption that the suicide mission has ended.

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That's why you play it after the SM :D



Better dialog and more fulfilling.

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Count Viceroy

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Don't think its that bad to do it before the SM, also the rewards from it are actually benifical pre, instead of redundant, post sm.

Modifié par Count Viceroy, 20 novembre 2010 - 08:23 .


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Count Viceroy wrote...

Don't think its that bad to do it before the SM, also the rewards from it are actually benifical pre, instead of redundant, post sm.

Perosnaly, I don't really care for the rewards, it's the dialog. Liara talking about how Fiona survived the SM and how she is going to jump into the fray was so touching. Plus cases like the SB talking about the base decision was also a nice touch.

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Fiery Phoenix

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I'll just repeat what I said in another thread a while back:

Doing it PRE-suicide mission   ---> Gameplay value (supplies and whatnot)
Doing it POST-suicide mission ---> Plot value (makes more sense)

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Off topic but has anybody tried meeting the council post suicide?

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Eudaemonium wrote...

It is a bit of an oversight, and would be a very nice addition. LotSB was basically written for a post-Suicide Mission timeframe though, which is probably why it wasn't included.


The irony being suicide mission being alot easier than Lotsb hell the Asari spectre and shadow broker alot tougher than the reaper.

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Jonesey2k wrote...

Off topic but has anybody tried meeting the council post suicide?


Yes, did it today actually. I had this playthrough set on meeting the Council post SM and you get the same dialogue.
I was very disappointed.

Modifié par Aeowyn, 21 novembre 2010 - 02:03 .


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Machines Are Us wrote...

This is assuming you romanced Liara in ME and wish to do so in ME2.

If you choose to complete the LOTSB prior to completing the suicide mission then Liara will show concern that you won't make it back as you have already died once and she doesn't want to lose you again. Assuming you choose to continue the relationship then you walay those fears and the relationship continues.

Fair enough.

Now logically once completing the Suicide Mission, upon returning to Liara there should be some dialogue that allows you to be reunited? At the very least the option to speak to her again to let her know you survived?

Instead she simply says "Thanks for stopping by" as though I never left and that's apparently it.

Does anybody else find this a little strange?


I think its probalby overlooked because the DLC pack seems to have been intended to be completed last - even after the suicide mission.

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Count Viceroy wrote...

Don't think its that bad to do it before the SM, also the rewards from it are actually benifical pre, instead of redundant, post sm.


What rewards does it give you other than Stasis (which, of course, is account-wide, so not really germaine)?

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Valentyna wrote...

Count Viceroy wrote...

Don't think its that bad to do it before the SM, also the rewards from it are actually benifical pre, instead of redundant, post sm.


What rewards does it give you other than Stasis (which, of course, is account-wide, so not really germaine)?


It gives you the ability to respec the skill point distribution on any of your squadmates (you've always been able to change your own skills, but never your squadmates)

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How's it strange or an oversight, do I get "When things settle down a little... maybe... I don't know. Just take care." with Kaidan? No, at least Liara fans get to yell or what not.. Why do you need to speak to her again after the suicide mission? Save her mission till after it then you can feel warm and fuzzy.

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---- double post --

Modifié par EchoDust, 09 mars 2011 - 12:50 .


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C'mon, folks. Give Liara and Shep some privacy. Don't assume they let you know every time they get together. :kissing:

When Liara came aboard the Normandy, everybody must have known her and Shep shared more than drinks in that captain's cabin. Heck, my Shep had Mordin sweep the cabin for Cerberus surveillance devices before Liara arrived. Can't a guy and a girl have a little privacy?

For those of you whose Shep romanced Miranda, why do you think she went to the engine room? No cameras there.

I just completed the playthrough I'm going to take into the next DLC. The repaired and refit Normandy flew out to Earth to let shore parties shuttle back and forth to give the crew some R&R. Then they completed the remaining side missions. All upgrades are in. Now they're hanging out at the Shadow Broker base, the best place to wait for the first word about any threat. And you can bet they are "relaxing."

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More on-topic, I always complete the Shadow Broker mission pre-SM. To me, it's Shep's loyalty mission, the thing he has to do to get his life in order before he faces likely death. I just can't imagine him going to a likely death knowing he has information vital to Liara and deliberately not sharing it.

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CyanidPontifex wrote...

Think positively, she could be talking about calibrations.


Liara: Thanks for stopping by, but can it wait for a bit? I'm in the middle of some calibrations.


Having only one line of text might be an actual limitation of the game, but they could have had something that didnt seem so final. Unless they intend to kill Liara off at the beginning of ME3.

That would both suck and blow.

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Double post; please delete.

Modifié par The_Wonder_of_Thedas, 09 mars 2011 - 07:34 .


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008Zulu wrote...

CyanidPontifex wrote...

Think positively, she could be talking about calibrations.


Liara: Thanks for stopping by, but can it wait for a bit? I'm in the middle of some calibrations.


Having only one line of text might be an actual limitation of the game, but they could have had something that didnt seem so final. Unless they intend to kill Liara off at the beginning of ME3.

That would both suck and blow.



Don't you even!