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[upsettingshorts]

Jshay512 wrote...
Also as i said before where did you guys hear this stuff or is this just stuff people randomly guess is going to happen and got accepted by everyone? A link would be great thanks.

I don't have a link, but the comment above about how paraphrases are going to work - namely how no words will be duplicated - is basically a direct paraphrase of something David Gaider said about how they go about writing paraphrases for each line.

Someone might have them - the links - handy, otherwise you get to have fun clicking on all the little "Bioware" icons under any thread which might cover the topic. 

/shakes fist at Bioware forums' terrible search engine

[Dave of Canada]

Jshay512 wrote...

Omg i know exactly what you mean tho. I always wish i could have said something while I heard my party members banter with each other. I felt SOOOO left out. -party banter part of it- So they are actually going to make it so hawke talks in the banter?

Yeah, Hawke is involve himself/herself from time to time.

Also as i said before where did you guys hear this stuff or is this just stuff people randomly guess is going to happen and got accepted by everyone? A link would be great thanks.

Loads of information came from interviews / devs months ago when we found out about the system.

[philbo1965uk]

Upsettingshorts wrote...

TJPags wrote...
Wow.  Well, that absolutely sucks.  Which idiot thought this was a good idea?

This really may be a deal breaker for me.

An "idiot" I agree with, personally.  The DA:2 system as described is as close to my ideal as any CRPG has ever gotten.

Selfish..

[Ziggeh]

philbo1965uk wrote...

I understand your confusion....the topic is Genre specific ..introducing generality , red and green trucks is moot.

It's really not, what you've done is a really common mistake when analysising market data: making the assumption that no other factors are involved.

[upsettingshorts]

philbo1965uk wrote...
Selfish..

You still haven't answered my earlier hypothetical, "Mr Unselfish Majority Opinion Holder."  Also, if you think calling a consumer "selfish" in a capitalist system is supposed to be an insult, I'm not sure what to tell you.  That's my role, to be selfish and buy products that appeal to or serve a useful purpose for me. 

----9----- wrote...
Has anyone from BioWare ever stated the rationale for using the dialogue wheel/paraphrasing/voice acting in
place of text? There must have been a reason for changing this.

That's two questions, which do you mean?

Bioware explain using a voiceover at all, or Bioware explain using a paraphrase for the voiced dialogue as opposed to the exact line?

Modifié par Upsettingshorts, 20 novembre 2010 - 08:44 .

[Jshay512]

Dave of Canada wrote...

Jshay512 wrote...

Omg i know exactly what you mean tho. I always wish i could have said something while I heard my party members banter with each other. I felt SOOOO left out. -party banter part of it- So they are actually going to make it so hawke talks in the banter?

Yeah, Hawke is involve himself/herself from time to time.

Also as i said before where did you guys hear this stuff or is this just stuff people randomly guess is going to happen and got accepted by everyone? A link would be great thanks.

Loads of information came from interviews / devs months ago when we found out about the system.

UGH!!! that doesn't help me haha. I was hoping someone knew a quick link to the original announcement and a couple interviews because i have been trying them.

[Dave of Canada]

philbo1965uk wrote...

Selfish..

How does that make him selfish?

[Ortaya Alevli]

http://social.biowar...91&lf=8#3177121

[Dave of Canada]

Here's a screenshot of the dialogue system with the icon, though it's one of the first screenshots released and might've changed since then.

Modifié par Dave of Canada, 20 novembre 2010 - 08:45 .

[Jshay512]

THANK YOU haha. i have only asked for a link like 5 times now XD. jk jk but really thanks

[Nighteye2]

ziggehunderslash wrote...

Nighteye2 wrote...

No, they're not worth it. I'd rather have more game content than a voiced PC.

Does it work like that?

VO is work for the audio department and cinematics, would animators and sound recorders go away and construct a few rooms otherwise? I appreciate there might be more money, but thinking about it on a 1:1 scale is horrible oversimplification.

It does - it takes more money and more disc-space. Basically, the cost for each line of text increases by a factor 5-10 (estimated). Money that is better invested in other parts of the game.

[Jshay512]

Haha i love how someone posted pretty much the same thing we are talking about right here in another thread about the same thing...

[Ortaya Alevli]

Jshay512 wrote...

THANK YOU haha. i have only asked for a link like 5 times now XD. jk jk but really thanks

Got the link from the "what do we know so far" sticky. More to read there if you're interested.

[Jshay512]

ok cool thanks man the only problem i have with that one is the fact their are like 2000 posts on it already.

[Jshay512]

So each of the chat things are going to have the symbols next to them like in the screenshot? that is pretty cool actually. Still i kinda wish i could tell exactly what was going to be said when i click the options but hey whatever.

[Sidney]

Jshay512 wrote...

So each of the chat things are going to have the symbols next to them like in the screenshot? that is pretty cool actually. Still i kinda wish i could tell exactly what was going to be said when i click the options but hey whatever.

You see a lot of people claiming a problem with "not saying what I thought" but I never had an issue knowing what was coming out of Shep's mouth.

There were a couple of tone issues at times - most annoying one being a flirty FemShep with an NPC - but nothing more than I had in DAO when I picked a dialog line and apparently the non-voiced character delivered it 100% opposite the way I wanted it delivered.

The nice thing is you feel a lot more interactive because the conversation have a more natural flow to them and your character doesn't "speak" like he's Ernest Hemmingway with ADD.

[Jshay512]

So wait i have a question. will the dialog options we pick decide what might will be showed later in the game? Like if i make my guy really sarcastic will it give me more sarcastic options than normal ones or will it be the same options no mater what I picked?

[Hulk Hsieh]

The strength of video game as a media is that it has text, video, audio, and interaction. All of them.
Cutting voices and going back to text-only today is really gimping itself .

Modifié par Hulk Hsieh, 20 novembre 2010 - 09:21 .

[TJPags]

Jshay512 wrote...

So wait i have a question. will the dialog options we pick decide what might will be showed later in the game? Like if i make my guy really sarcastic will it give me more sarcastic options than normal ones or will it be the same options no mater what I picked?

From what I understand, yes . . which oddly (perhaps) I don't think I'd have a problem with.

My problem is not knowing what sarcastic comment my Hawke will actually say . . .

[Jshay512]

Seeing how the basics of the actual interactions i would agree with you Hulk. I also feel tho that who they pick for the VA could make this game be really great or just good.

[upsettingshorts]

You do not need to accumulate sarcasm points to unlock sarcasm options like Paragon/Renegade in Mass Effect.



Your habits however will color Hawke's speech whenever you wouldn't normally have a choice - such as when he participates in party banter. It will keep Hawke's comments in character without making them dry enough to suit all Hawkes.

[Jshay512]

Yeah i mean i feel the same TJpags. Then again i guess if you want to look at it a different way not knowing what you are going to say might actually be kinda interesting.

[Jshay512]

Upsettingshorts wrote...

You do not need to accumulate sarcasm points to unlock sarcasm options like Paragon/Renegade in Mass Effect.

Your habits however will color Hawke's speech whenever you wouldn't normally have a choice - such as when he participates in party banter. It will keep Hawke's comments in character without making them dry enough to suit all Hawkes.

Ok cool. I actually like that more than if they made it accumulate sarcasm points. If i made my guy really sarcastic at the beginning but decided later on that he was going to become nicer i want to be able to do that easily.