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#376
Aggie Punbot

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Nighteye2 wrote...

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There is a really easy solution for all those who don't like the vioce acting:
press mute, turn on subtitles, enjoy.
However let those who like the vioce acting (like me) enjoy it.


That only works if only the player is muted, and the option also replaces the dialogue wheel by a full-text menu.

Otherwise, you are left with only downsides. You miss out on all the good things that have been sacrificed for the VA, as well as the VA itself. >_>


We all have to make sacrifices. If the voice acting matters to you that much, there's your solution.

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Herr Uhl wrote...

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Are you going to say that truth is decided by the majority next or what?


"Truth" is a very silly word to be assigning towards any preference regarding voice acting. 


That isn't about VA, but the silly reasoning that unless the majority thinks like you, you don't count.


majority = largest market which ='s most profits...so basicly yes...when it comes to things like this minority does not count.

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Dave of Canada wrote...

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Would it have been more valid if he used the expression "used" instead of wasted? It is still the same reasoning.


"I feel the resources were wasted" or "I hate VO because...", instead of my above example of "I hate X, so remove X and add more Y".


But the statement was simply that muting the VO isn't as favorable as having none in the first place.

It is very much wasted money on someone that mutes it.

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The thing i like most about having the VO is having my character interact in the party discussions that annoyed me not being able in the first game.

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I just hope DA3. If there's a DA3 doesn't have VO.



That's probably the most I could hope for at this point.

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Ryzaki wrote...

I just hope DA3. If there's a DA3 doesn't have VO.

That's probably the most I could hope for at this point.

I wouldn't hold my breath for that one.

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Atakuma wrote...

Ryzaki wrote...

I just hope DA3. If there's a DA3 doesn't have VO.

That's probably the most I could hope for at this point.

I wouldn't hold my breath for that one.

Neither would I.

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Especially when in the game developer realm Voice Acting is seen as something that was held back by technological limitations and these big budget games have to have it in spades in order to compete.

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TS2Aggie wrote...

Atakuma wrote...

Ryzaki wrote...

I just hope DA3. If there's a DA3 doesn't have VO.

That's probably the most I could hope for at this point.

I wouldn't hold my breath for that one.

Neither would I.

I would also guess it won't. Even if the VO in DA:2 stinks they will probably keep it and just try to make it better.

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Jshay512 wrote...

TS2Aggie wrote...

Atakuma wrote...

Ryzaki wrote...

I just hope DA3. If there's a DA3 doesn't have VO.

That's probably the most I could hope for at this point.

I wouldn't hold my breath for that one.

Neither would I.

I would also guess it won't. Even if the VO in DA:2 stinks they will probably keep it and just try to make it better.


VO I feel will become the standard unless they ever do another multiple origins game.

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kylecouch wrote...

Jshay512 wrote...

TS2Aggie wrote...

Atakuma wrote...

Ryzaki wrote...

I just hope DA3. If there's a DA3 doesn't have VO.

That's probably the most I could hope for at this point.

I wouldn't hold my breath for that one.

Neither would I.

I would also guess it won't. Even if the VO in DA:2 stinks they will probably keep it and just try to make it better.


VO I feel will become the standard unless they ever do another multiple origins game.


Or they'll do a VO, mulitple origins game and people will complain about how some of the VO don't accurately represent their race.

It's a crapshoot.

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Nerivant wrote...

kylecouch wrote...

Jshay512 wrote...

TS2Aggie wrote...

Atakuma wrote...

Ryzaki wrote...

I just hope DA3. If there's a DA3 doesn't have VO.

That's probably the most I could hope for at this point.

I wouldn't hold my breath for that one.

Neither would I.

I would also guess it won't. Even if the VO in DA:2 stinks they will probably keep it and just try to make it better.


VO I feel will become the standard unless they ever do another multiple origins game.


Or they'll do a VO, mulitple origins game and people will complain about how some of the VO don't accurately represent their race.

It's a crapshoot.


I can't see any game company doing that simply due to the sheer cost that it would require to do VO for multiple PC's. But regardless there will always be those people who think "RPG's should be this way and never ever change cuz change is bad".

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kylecouch wrote...

Nerivant wrote...

kylecouch wrote...

Jshay512 wrote...

TS2Aggie wrote...

Atakuma wrote...

Ryzaki wrote...

I just hope DA3. If there's a DA3 doesn't have VO.

That's probably the most I could hope for at this point.

I wouldn't hold my breath for that one.

Neither would I.

I would also guess it won't. Even if the VO in DA:2 stinks they will probably keep it and just try to make it better.


VO I feel will become the standard unless they ever do another multiple origins game.


Or they'll do a VO, mulitple origins game and people will complain about how some of the VO don't accurately represent their race.

It's a crapshoot.


I can't see any game company doing that simply due to the sheer cost that it would require to do VO for multiple PC's. But regardless there will always be those people who think "RPG's should be this way and never ever change cuz change is bad".

Games are just going to start to be more expensive. I mean look at computer games they are starting to cost as much as most console games now. There are computer games that are coming out costing 60 bucks instead of 50 or 40.

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Jshay512 wrote...

Games are just going to start to be more expensive. I mean look at computer games they are starting to cost as much as most console games now. There are computer games that are coming out costing 60 bucks instead of 50 or 40.


Pft, still cheap! I remember paying over 9,000 (it was probably 80+) dollars for Super Mario RPG!

Modifié par Dave of Canada, 21 novembre 2010 - 11:02 .


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It makes me sad. I'd rather have twice as many conversations than a voiced protagonist. I'm assuming a voiced protagonist means twice the resources used for each conversation.

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Dave of Canada wrote...

Jshay512 wrote...

Games are just going to start to be more expensive. I mean look at computer games they are starting to cost as much as most console games now. There are computer games that are coming out costing 60 bucks instead of 50 or 40.


Pft, still cheap! I remember paying over 9,000 (it was probably 80+) dollars for Super Mario RPG!


****ing Chrono Trigger was also damn expensive

And you know what was worse about these two games than DA 2 and other modern games.

THEY NEVER WENT DOWN IN PRICE.  EVER.

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ejoslin wrote...

It makes me sad. I'd rather have twice as many conversations than a voiced protagonist. I'm assuming a voiced protagonist means twice the resources used for each conversation.


Twice the cost for recording. But that would assume that the writers could make twice the dialog without it dropping significantly in quality.

Edit: Or rather three times, since there is both male an female.

Modifié par Herr Uhl, 21 novembre 2010 - 11:24 .


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ejoslin wrote...

It makes me sad. I'd rather have twice as many conversations than a voiced protagonist. I'm assuming a voiced protagonist means twice the resources used for each conversation.

A stat has not been shown to us what it really is in terms of conversation or money but I would probably guess about that.

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They'll just recycle the VA's for additional ancillary roles within the game like they did with ME

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Onyx Jaguar wrote...

Dave of Canada wrote...

Jshay512 wrote...

Games are just going to start to be more expensive. I mean look at computer games they are starting to cost as much as most console games now. There are computer games that are coming out costing 60 bucks instead of 50 or 40.


Pft, still cheap! I remember paying over 9,000 (it was probably 80+) dollars for Super Mario RPG!


****ing Chrono Trigger was also damn expensive

And you know what was worse about these two games than DA 2 and other modern games.

THEY NEVER WENT DOWN IN PRICE.  EVER.

Yeah all I know is I am running out of money to pay for these new games haha. All these games are coming out and look amazing but cost 60+ dollars. What is a college student to do?

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ejoslin wrote...

It makes me sad. I'd rather have twice as many conversations than a voiced protagonist. I'm assuming a voiced protagonist means twice the resources used for each conversation.

The number of lines of dialogue is reportedly more than origins.

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ejoslin wrote...

It makes me sad. I'd rather have twice as many conversations than a voiced protagonist. I'm assuming a voiced protagonist means twice the resources used for each conversation.


I would personaly rather have one emotional and well scripted scene with the PC, then five scenes where the PC just stands there like a cyborg not reacting to any situation.

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Onyx Jaguar wrote...

****ing Chrono Trigger was also damn expensive

And you know what was worse about these two games than DA 2 and other modern games.

THEY NEVER WENT DOWN IN PRICE.  EVER.


I remember going to Wal Mart and checking out the game area and like... every single game was expensive, I remember cheering when I found Kirby Super Star Saga on sale for 40$.

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While there is always the risk of getting a VA that you don't like the sound of voice your character, on the whole I tend to be in favour of the change. All the usual reasons, find it adds emotional depth yadda yadda yadda, I'm sure it's been said many times over in this thread alone. I just think it's worth the risk when it can pay off so well with a quality VA. With that said I do miss the days when a silent protagonist was acceptable, thesedays it seems like if a game ships with a silent protagonist the media lambast it for being archaic or somesuch (a perfect example being Link from the Legend of Zelda).



Sometimes it really does pay off though, I thought giving your player character a voice in Fable 3 was one of the biggest improvements that game made over it's predecessors. As for Dragon Age, well it's always going to be a point of debate for fans here, with so many being fond of and remembering the days of BG and so forth. Despite ManShep I remain confident Bioware will get the casting right though...

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Lets just hope that there is a good VA and they do a good job with the VO. I would be disappointed if that messed up the game