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There is a skip Ostagar mod, some where but I haven't tested it out myself. I have about 13 Wardens parked at Ostagar.. too bad they aren't all there at the same time, maybe it would have boosted numbers enough to give the Fereldans an edge in the battle.

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Ortaya Alevli

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Skipping Ostagar?

Blasphemy!

Two of the best cutscenes in the game.

(I also have an Ogre battle save for each character. Yeah, I'm a freak like that.)

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Ryzaki wrote...

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That seemed out of character for her. I mean, Leliana's never had sex with an elf? Never?

Why would she have needed to? Weren't they servants in Orlais? 


Off the top of my head?

For fun. For practice. To satisfy one's curiosity. Because they were the servant to someone important. Because she was serving tea in a brothel and they came in for a sip.


Eh. I don't see her doing it for any of those reasons except maybe the curiosty one when there were humans around.

As for the servants. Why bother wiht the servant when you can go straight to the source? 

So yes I see it as quite believeable that she didn't sleep with an elf until the Warden.


You don't think Leliana would have sex with an elf for fun? That is... I guess that's as valid an interpretation as any.*

*Doesn't believe it for a second.

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leonia42 wrote...

There is a skip Ostagar mod, some where but I haven't tested it out myself. I have about 13 Wardens parked at Ostagar.. too bad they aren't all there at the same time, maybe it would have boosted numbers enough to give the Fereldans an edge in the battle.


I aways feel lazy when I'm at Ostagar and Deep Roads.

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Maria Caliban wrote...

You don't think Leliana would have sex with an elf for fun? That is... I guess that's as valid an interpretation as any.*

*Doesn't believe it for a second.


I didn't say that. I said I don't see it as unconceivable that she hadn't. Big difference.

Besides why sleep with an elf when you have a human right there (or in Leliana's case her lover Marjoline).

Modifié par Ryzaki, 21 novembre 2010 - 02:07 .


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Ortaya Alevli wrote...

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no not really.....you are changing the very sex and status of certain characters. Wether they "had" to be made or not because those are the "X" possibilities for a PC  those are still inconsistencies

If they were male depending on some customization options and female for others, now I'd call that an inconsistency. Otherwise, placeholders hold place.


I believe we are descending in the rtealm of semantics my friend

ultimately...as long as my warden can have his Lelliana I am good


now


if only Hawke could have a Lelliana too

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Isabella seems to be a female version of Zevran. If you also get a female version of Alistair, that'd just be sort of lazy. I doubt it will happen though. I mean they said the romances would be unique and different from the ones in DAO. Hopefully there's more of a difference than just gender.

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leonia42 wrote...

There is a skip Ostagar mod, some where but I haven't tested it out myself. I have about 13 Wardens parked at Ostagar.. too bad they aren't all there at the same time, maybe it would have boosted numbers enough to give the Fereldans an edge in the battle.


There is..? :o *goes off in eager search* 

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leonia42 wrote...

I was unaware that there was a "canon" gender for the younger Cousland/middle Aeducan child but I'd be happily proven wrong if you can site a source that says there is. It is canon that if you choose a non-Cousland Origin that the younger Cousland dies or if you choose a non-Aeducan that the second child dies (or is never heard from again at least after their exile). I'm not so sold on theire being gender canon with either of those and even if there were, so what? It doesn't change anything really.


Yes, the default Aeducan is male. It's the same for the casteless dwarf.

Within Dragon Age, if you play one origin, you can come upon the remains/indications of others. The story assumption is that when you pick your PC, you're picking where Duncan decided to go. The other PCs were Duncanless and so died in various ways.

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I said I don't see it as unconceivable that she hadn't.


Okay. If you're going to express yourself with triple negatives, you have to forgive me if I don't always follow.

Besides why sleep with an elf when you have a human right there (or in Leliana's case her lover Marjoline).


Leliana doesn't express a preference for humans and she's slept with many other people than Marjoline.

Modifié par Maria Caliban, 21 novembre 2010 - 02:11 .


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Maria Caliban wrote...

Ryzaki wrote...

Maria Caliban wrote...

Ryzaki wrote...

Maria Caliban wrote...

That seemed out of character for her. I mean, Leliana's never had sex with an elf? Never?

Why would she have needed to? Weren't they servants in Orlais? 


Off the top of my head?

For fun. For practice. To satisfy one's curiosity. Because they were the servant to someone important. Because she was serving tea in a brothel and they came in for a sip.


Eh. I don't see her doing it for any of those reasons except maybe the curiosty one when there were humans around.

As for the servants. Why bother wiht the servant when you can go straight to the source? 

So yes I see it as quite believeable that she didn't sleep with an elf until the Warden.


You don't think Leliana would have sex with an elf for fun? That is... I guess that's as valid an interpretation as any.*

*Doesn't believe it for a second.


depends on your interpretation of Lelliana......you CAN play her off as very jealous, possessive and monogamous in Lelliana's song....so...

I dunno maybe I have a certain vision of Leliana

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crimzontearz wrote...

I believe we are descending in the rtealm of semantics my friend

ultimately...as long as my warden can have his Lelliana I am good


now


if only Hawke could have a Lelliana too

As you wish.

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Plus I picture Leliana as not really sleeping with someone unless she somewhat knows them or plans on being a black widow. Through her dialogue with an elven warden I doubt she knew any elves other than in passing.

Modifié par Ryzaki, 21 novembre 2010 - 02:10 .


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Isabella seems to be a female version of Zevran. If you also get a female version of Alistair, that'd just be sort of lazy. I doubt it will happen though. I mean they said the romances would be unique and different from the ones in DAO. Hopefully there's more of a difference than just gender.


not very bright but golden-hearted woman spitting one liners.....AND a virgin?

I'll roll with that (I guess playing Mass Effect gave me a virgin fetish)

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crimzontearz wrote...

Slidell505 wrote...

Isabella seems to be a female version of Zevran. If you also get a female version of Alistair, that'd just be sort of lazy. I doubt it will happen though. I mean they said the romances would be unique and different from the ones in DAO. Hopefully there's more of a difference than just gender.


not very bright but golden-hearted woman spitting one liners.....AND a virgin?

I'll roll with that (I guess playing Mass Effect gave me a virgin fetish)


Have you ever slept with a virgin? They are terrible. Give me a woman with experience any day.

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Maria Caliban wrote..

You don't think Leliana would have sex with an elf for fun? That is... I guess that's as valid an interpretation as any.*

*Doesn't believe it for a second.


I've never understood this desire to paint Leliana as inexperienced. She's definetly out for caring and love, but she's about as sexually experienced as they come. If she's hardened, I think she's the one that gets a little upset at not taking part re: the Isabella orgy.

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isabela will have carth syndrome.... i know it, because she is a pirate and lies. lol

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In Exile wrote...

Maria Caliban wrote..

You don't think Leliana would have sex with an elf for fun? That is... I guess that's as valid an interpretation as any.*

*Doesn't believe it for a second.


I've never understood this desire to paint Leliana as inexperienced. She's definetly out for caring and love, but she's about as sexually experienced as they come. If she's hardened, I think she's the one that gets a little upset at not taking part re: the Isabella orgy.


I fail to see how not sleeping with elves makes her inexperienced. That's like saying not sleeping with a certain race means you're not sexually experienced. I.E. that makes no damn sense.

Modifié par Ryzaki, 21 novembre 2010 - 02:14 .


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Ryzaki wrote...

Plus I picture Leliana as not really sleeping with someone unless she somewhat knows them or plans on being a black widow. Through her dialogue with an elven warden I doubt she knew any elves other than in passing.


She worked in a brothel. She served 'bored noblewomen' at parties.

Modifié par Maria Caliban, 21 novembre 2010 - 02:15 .


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In Exile wrote...

Maria Caliban wrote..

You don't think Leliana would have sex with an elf for fun? That is... I guess that's as valid an interpretation as any.*

*Doesn't believe it for a second.


I've never understood this desire to paint Leliana as inexperienced. She's definetly out for caring and love, but she's about as sexually experienced as they come. If she's hardened, I think she's the one that gets a little upset at not taking part re: the Isabella orgy.


she invites herself and isabela agrees, while isabela invites zev/ alistair

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Slidell505 wrote...

crimzontearz wrote...

Slidell505 wrote...

Isabella seems to be a female version of Zevran. If you also get a female version of Alistair, that'd just be sort of lazy. I doubt it will happen though. I mean they said the romances would be unique and different from the ones in DAO. Hopefully there's more of a difference than just gender.


not very bright but golden-hearted woman spitting one liners.....AND a virgin?

I'll roll with that (I guess playing Mass Effect gave me a virgin fetish)


Have you ever slept with a virgin? They are terrible. Give me a woman with experience any day.


depends on the virgin and how much pent up energy they have (look at Tali....hehehe)...also on your approach....still not the point

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Maria Caliban wrote...

Ryzaki wrote...

Plus I picture Leliana as not really sleeping with someone unless she somewhat knows them or plans on being a black widow. Through her dialogue with an elven warden I doubt she knew any elves other than in passing.


She worked in a brothel.


Huh? I missed this. When did she work in a brothel? I got her working with lady cecile and then joining the bardic order when she was older.

Serving borded noble women at parties could be taken literally you realize? She does say she was trained as a servant.

Do you know what the conversation starts with? I want to look it up.

Edit: Damn keyboard...

Modifié par Ryzaki, 21 novembre 2010 - 02:17 .


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Maria Caliban wrote...


Within Dragon Age, if you play one origin, you can come upon the remains/indications of others. The story assumption is that when you pick your PC, you're picking where Duncan decided to go. The other PCs were Duncanless and so died in various ways.
 


Although in some cases, Duncan's involvement doesn't seem so useful. A mage that listens to Irving might have lived through Uldred (as that mage wouldn't have per se helped Jowan) and Cousland Jr. could have escaped through the pantry alone. In fact, I don't see the contribution of Duncan to the survival of Cousland Jr. at all.

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Maria Caliban wrote...

Ryzaki wrote...

Plus I picture Leliana as not really sleeping with someone unless she somewhat knows them or plans on being a black widow. Through her dialogue with an elven warden I doubt she knew any elves other than in passing.


She worked in a brothel.


Serving Tea.......which is the Orlesian equivalent to a Thai Massage LOL

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Maria Caliban wrote...

Ryzaki wrote...

Plus I picture Leliana as not really sleeping with someone unless she somewhat knows them or plans on being a black widow. Through her dialogue with an elven warden I doubt she knew any elves other than in passing.


She worked in a brothel. She served 'bored noblewomen' at parties.

Where did brothel come from?  she only mentions of one stint in a brothel, and i figure when she wasn't playing bard she was a ministrel, so that is where the noblewomen came from unless Lady Cecile was adventurous.

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crimzontearz wrote...

Serving Tea.......which is the Orlesian equivalent to a Thai Massage LOL

Cue the weak/strong tea jokes.