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[AventuroLegendary]

 Not sure if there is a thread up of this.
I've seen a gameplay video and instead of assigning squaddies to attack certain enemies, you just play it like Diablo or Vindictus. How is this going to work? Will there still be a pause and assign feature?

[jhawke]

yes, you can still pause and use the radial menu to assign actions.



one video shows this, I believe.



as for being hack and slash.........I don't see how it is anymore so than Origins. Just that the moves are faster and flashier.

[Dave of Canada]

From what I've gathered:

Instead of having to wait 5 seconds for a move to activate, it's almost instant. As well as the removal of the "shuffle" that had characters dance around enemies for 5 seconds before doing anything. This makes the game appear almost hack & slash but it plays almost the same as Origins.



If you were on the console, you now get the ability to move companions through the radial menu.

If you were on the PC, they removed the extremely-zoomed out camera but otherwise it remains the same with a few changes.

[Nekator]

jhawke wrote...



as for being hack and slash.........I don't see how it is anymore so than Origins. Just that the moves are faster and flashier.

yeah.. one of the great goals for Bioware it seems... fast and flashy moves, make every press on the console controller something cool happen... the new rules for a RPG.

[StingingVelvet]

jhawke wrote...

as for being hack and slash.........I don't see how it is anymore so than Origins. Just that the moves are faster and flashier.

Har.

[Maria Caliban]

LegendaryAvenger wrote...

 Not sure if there is a thread up of this.
I've seen a gameplay video and instead of assigning squaddies to attack certain enemies, you just play it like Diablo or Vindictus. How is this going to work? Will there still be a pause and assign feature?

No, it doesn't play like Diablo. I've never played Vindictus, so I wouldn't know what that's like.

[Dave of Canada]

Nekator wrote...

yeah.. one of the great goals for Bioware it seems... fast and flashy moves, make every press on the console controller something cool happen... the new rules for a RPG.

You mean you'd rather play / watch something that's not entertaining and slow?

[Shepard Lives]

It's Origins, in a flashier and less clunky package. 'Nuff said.

Also, tactical overhead camera has been removed in favor of a more detached third-person view.

[Shepard Lives]

Dave of Canada wrote...

Nekator wrote...

yeah.. one of the great goals for Bioware it seems... fast and flashy moves, make every press on the console controller something cool happen... the new rules for a RPG.

You mean you'd rather play / watch something that's not entertaining and slow?

Well duh. Everyone knows no true RPG allows characters to attack without idling around for ten seconds first. And when they do attack, they must shuffle, not run.

[Maria Caliban]

Dave of Canada wrote...

Nekator wrote...

yeah.. one of the great goals for Bioware it seems... fast and flashy moves, make every press on the console controller something cool happen... the new rules for a RPG.

You mean you'd rather play / watch something that's not entertaining and slow?

That assumes that flashy is the same as entertaining. In Fallout: NV, there was no flashy combat, but it was entertaining.

As for slow, it's no better or worse than fast.

[thegreateski]

It's not a hack and slash. I said quietly to myself for the 12th time.




Yah know what? Yeah. It is a hack and slash, but the story and characters are still of Bioware quality writing.

What is your opinion now?

Modifié par thegreateski, 20 novembre 2010 - 11:07 .

[upsettingshorts]

Maria Caliban wrote...

That assumes that flashy is the same as entertaining. In Fallout: NV, there was no flashy combat, but it was entertaining.

As for slow, it's no better or worse than fast.

Heads exploding and limbs being shot off isn't flashy?

[thegreateski]

Upsettingshorts wrote...

Maria Caliban wrote...

That assumes that flashy is the same as entertaining. In Fallout: NV, there was no flashy combat, but it was entertaining.

As for slow, it's no better or worse than fast.

Heads exploding and limbs being shot off isn't flashy?

I believe the term is "Gory".

Modifié par thegreateski, 20 novembre 2010 - 11:24 .

[Maria Caliban]

Upsettingshorts wrote...

Heads exploding and limbs being shot off isn't flashy?

Yes.

[Dave of Canada]

Fat Man, Energy Weapons and limbs exploding / people melting into goo isn't flashy? 

[Maria Caliban]

Dave of Canada wrote...

Fat Man, Energy Weapons and limbs exploding / people melting into goo isn't flashy? 

Nope.

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I have to wonder at this conversational strategy. If I said "Avatar isn't a gory movie" would you two say "A helicopter blowing up isn't gory?"

I mean, unless you think I'm unaware that a helicopter blows up, I'm not sure what you expect my reaction to be. By saying that X isn't flashy, it should be assumed that either I don't find any element of X flashy or that if there is an element of X that's flashy, I don't think it's strong enough to define X.

Modifié par Maria Caliban, 20 novembre 2010 - 11:42 .

[Herr Uhl]

Even when it is slow motion caption zooming in on the head exploding?

[Maria Caliban]

...no, I didn't find Fallout: NV's combat flashy.

Why are you people asking me these questions? It's not like I could miss the slo-mo deaths.

Now, if you want to state that *you* found it flashy, feel free. But stop asking me these questions!

Is it flashy
here or there?
It is not flashy
here or there.
It is not flashy anywhere.


It is not flashy in a house?
It is not flashy with a mouse?

It is not flashy
in a house.
It is not flashy
with a mouse.
It is not flashy
here or there.
It is not flashy
anywhere.

Is it flashy
in a box?
Is it flashy
with a fox?
Not in a box.
Not with a fox.
Not in a house.
Not with a mouse.
It is not flashy
here or there.
It is not flashy anywhere.

Modifié par Maria Caliban, 20 novembre 2010 - 11:49 .

[Jarek_Cousland]

Please stop talking about NV.





Bethesda OR Fallout games have nothing to do with Bioware, we get it its a good game. But having every thread go into an off-topic mega discussion about how NV does so-and-so and every RPG should be like it is getting old.

[Herr Uhl]

Maria Caliban wrote...

...no, I didn't find Fallout: NV's combat flashy.

Why are you people asking me these questions? It's not like I could miss the slo-mo deaths.

Now, if you want to state that *you* found it flashy, feel free. But stop asking me these questions!

I wonder what you find flashy then?

Since you answered the question of someone that clearly considers NV flashy.

[ErichHartmann]

Nekator wrote...
yeah.. one of the great goals for Bioware it seems... fast and flashy moves, make every press on the console controller something cool happen... the new rules for a RPG.

Cool things happened in Baldur's Gate II when you clicked a spell as a high level mage.  I don't know about you but summoning a demon that attacked everything in sight was fun.  So what's your point? 

[Dhiro]

Jarek_Cousland wrote...

Please stop talking about NV.


Bethesda OR Fallout games have nothing to do with Bioware, we get it its a good game. But having every thread go into an off-topic mega discussion about how NV does so-and-so and every RPG should be like it is getting old.

That's true. LET'S TALK ABOUT THE WITCHER!!111

...Please, don't.

[mousestalker]

Maria Caliban wrote...

...no, I didn't find Fallout: NV's combat flashy.

Why are you people asking me these questions? It's not like I could miss the slo-mo deaths.

Now, if you want to state that *you* found it flashy, feel free. But stop asking me these questions!

Is it flashy
here or there?
It is not flashy
here or there.
It is not flashy anywhere.


It is not flashy in a house?
It is not flashy with a mouse?

It is not flashy
in a house.
It is not flashy
with a mouse.
It is not flashy
here or there.
It is not flashy
anywhere.

Is it flashy
in a box?
Is it flashy
with a fox?
Not in a box.
Not with a fox.
Not in a house.
Not with a mouse.
It is not flashy
here or there.
It is not flashy anywhere.

This is win.

[Fishy]

Origin it's a mix between realtime and turn based combat.When you attack someone you can't control your character anymore(Outside of giving him order) .

So i guess they're simply giving you more freedom of your character while in combat.You're not waiting for the other *player* to move his chess piece before attacking.

Divinity 2 would be a great exemple ...
World of Warcraft
Age of Conan
Dark Age of Camelot
The Witcher
Origin
NWN
Baldur Gate

They all share a different kind of gameplay . But they're all hack and slasher.
You just can't queue up 200 attack and  take a shower before it's over.

Modifié par Suprez30, 21 novembre 2010 - 02:00 .

[Bryy_Miller]

thegreateski wrote...

Upsettingshorts wrote...

Maria Caliban wrote...

That assumes that flashy is the same as entertaining. In Fallout: NV, there was no flashy combat, but it was entertaining.

As for slow, it's no better or worse than fast.

Heads exploding and limbs being shot off isn't flashy?

I believe the term is "Gory".

Richard Gorey?