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[soignee]

I... don't get the hack and slash reference. RPGS aren't? I've been playing Titan Quest recently, that's hack and slash. There are mobs, kill mobs. Loot shiney. Get over excited about bone piles and chests. That's about it- I push 4 buttons at the most, and I'm not even sure there's a plot other then "monsters lol."



Not really seen that sort of thing in the trailers, or even associate DA:O with hack and slash. Though I do get over excited about chests, though. Not gonna lie.

[tishyw]

nightcobra8928 wrote...

ptibog wrote...

Seb Hanlon wrote...

additionally, I'd be very careful about drawing conclusions from shaky bootleg footage of prerelease demos.

Is the new bioware's "buy before seeing any gameplay if you want to have the full game" policy is more safe?

i didn't know march 11th was already tomorrow, boy time sure does fly

No, but January 11th is only a few weeks away, and that's the pre-order signature edition cut off date.  Given that we have Xmas between in that timeframe as well, it's looking increasingly likely that we won't have game play footage before the signature edition cut off date.

[thegreateski]

soignee wrote...
Not really seen that sort of thing in the trailers, or even associate DA:O with hack and slash. Though I do get over excited about chests, though. Not gonna lie.

You get over excited about chests huh? I'd have never guessed.

Anyway . . . would combining hack and slash gameplay with RTS combat be so bad? Seems like it could be an improvement.

Modifié par thegreateski, 22 novembre 2010 - 01:13 .

[Apollo Starflare]

tishyw wrote...

No, but January 11th is only a few weeks away, and that's the pre-order signature edition cut off date.  Given that we have Xmas between in that timeframe as well, it's looking increasingly likely that we won't have game play footage before the signature edition cut off date.

Actually it's over 7 weeks away, and marketing doesn't take a break all the way through December just because of xmas. I would be very surprised if we didn't see gameplay before that date, my mind would be (as they say) boggled.

Brockololly wrote...

Its a fact that the PC version of Origins was balanced differently than
the console version in part because of the Tactical camera and the
hardware capabilities of the PC allowing more enemies on screen at once.
Its the reason why friendly fire is on in the default difficulty in
Origin for PC but not on the consoles.

Well they are being developed alongside each other this time so that could change how they are balanced, but I mostly mentioned the PC in that way because you seem to be under the impression (correct me if I'm wrong) that should the PC and console version be the same this time around (which isn't the case, but still) then it will equal a less tactical game with less pause and play.

I just don't see that being the case, regardless of whether they up the amount of monsters for the PC. Despite it's shortcomings the console version of Origins was still very much a tactical affair, it was just a pain in the rear getting some of the more detailed stuff executed. The PC won't suffer that problem at least. Also the friendly fire thing is sort of diminished by the fact it could be put upto 100% by upping the difficulty, it was probably off by default more to do with the fiddliness of the radial menu and such more than anything?

Anyway I don't see how any of this equates to a dumbed down DA2 so far. It's possible it could result in tactical play being too easy on PC (if the monsters aren't upped) but I would imagine they will balance it to prevent that, and everything I have seen from the demo doing the rounds suggests that won't be the case.

Brockololly wrote...


Show, don't tell.

I agree! Marketing is a pain, I wish they could just show us everything we want to know, or at least give more detailed info on certain features/gameplay. Unfortunately that isn't the case, and with DA2's development obviously being quite different to DAO's in terms of development time if nothing else I'm not really surprised it's being marketed at a different pace as well. Most AAA games release gameplay in advance of their release and I would be very surprised if DA2 was an exception to that rule.

[Mike Laidlaw]

Grand_Commander13 wrote...
Has anyone around the office given any indication when they hope to put official gameplay videos out?  There are some haters I'd quite like to say "I told you so" to, but I need to know how long I'll have to wait to gloat.

Soon. Quite soon.

[Nerivant]

Mike Laidlaw wrote...

Grand_Commander13 wrote...
Has anyone around the office given any indication when they hope to put official gameplay videos out?  There are some haters I'd quite like to say "I told you so" to, but I need to know how long I'll have to wait to gloat.

Soon. Quite soon.

Vague. Quite vague.

But it's still an answer. A vague answer.

I'm discontent. Vaguely discontent.

[Mike Laidlaw]

thegreateski wrote...

"The new s**t"

Poor Bioware will never live it down.

A question to put forward: How many other trailers from that year do you remember?

One? None?

One trailer moved Origins from "yawn, boring fantasy" to "Huh whanow?" for a lot of people. Even if it bothered some folks, it absolutely did it's job: it made people sit up and pay attention to a game that was, for many, "old news" by that point.

I wouldn't want to live it down even if the chance were offered.

[Maria Caliban]

Yes! And after they show the gameplay, they can tell us more about the story and characters. Because, you know, not everyone cares about the camera angle or how many buttons you need to push to play the game.

[ENolan]

Mike Laidlaw wrote...

Grand_Commander13 wrote...
Has anyone around the office given any indication when they hope to put official gameplay videos out?  There are some haters I'd quite like to say "I told you so" to, but I need to know how long I'll have to wait to gloat.

Soon. Quite soon.

They'll hold you to that, you know?

[Leonia]

Maria Caliban wrote...

Yes! And after they show the gameplay, they can tell us more about the story and characters. Because, you know, not everyone cares about the camera angle or how many buttons you need to push to play the game.

/not being serious

What is this blasphemy, Maria. How can I enjoy the story and characters when the camera angle makes my face twitch every five seconds? Have you no respect for the console players with their less-fancy camera angle? I mean, really come on..and the buttons! Don't even go there sister..

/being serious

Can't wait for some juicy gameplay footage so we can move on to more important matters like.. why does Isabela have a pant phobia and will Varric be a love interest?

[crimzontearz]

Mike Laidlaw wrote...

thegreateski wrote...

"The new s**t"

Poor Bioware will never live it down.

A question to put forward: How many other trailers from that year do you remember?

One? None?

One trailer moved Origins from "yawn, boring fantasy" to "Huh whanow?" for a lot of people. Even if it bothered some folks, it absolutely did it's job: it made people sit up and pay attention to a game that was, for many, "old news" by that point.

I wouldn't want to live it down even if the chance were offered.

all the trailers of all the games I was interested in enough to actually bother to DL and watch the ir trailers

yes I know that good attention or bad attention is still attention ..... but that trailer was still horrid

[Maria Caliban]

leonia42 wrote...

/not being serious

What is this blasphemy, Maria. How can I enjoy the story and characters when the camera angle makes my face twitch every five seconds? Have you no respect for the console players with their less-fancy camera angle? I mean, really come on..and the buttons! Don't even go there sister..

/being serious

Can't wait for some juicy gameplay footage so we can move on to more important matters like.. why does Isabela have a pant phobia and will Varric be a love interest?

It's true, Leonia. I was playing Civilization V the other day and you can scroll out so far you can see the entire continent. That's why Civ V is the (second) greatest RPG ever!

Modifié par Maria Caliban, 22 novembre 2010 - 03:52 .

[Apollo Starflare]

Maria Caliban wrote...

Yes! And after they show the gameplay, they can tell us more about the story and characters. Because, you know, not everyone cares about the camera angle or how many buttons you need to push to play the game.

I'm both hoping and dreading that the companion characters get the same marketing focus that ME2's squad got. Hoping because the characters are one of the best aspects of a Bioware game and never fail to get me rediculously hyped for it's arrival. And dreading because I really want to avoid spoiling myself this time around, in particular as to the number and details of companions!

[Maria Caliban]

Awesome trailers:
Prince of Persia
Dead Space
Gears of War
Fallout 3

E3 2008 was a great year for trailers.

Apollo Starflare wrote...

I'm both hoping and dreading that the companion characters get the same marketing focus that ME2's squad got. Hoping because the characters are one of the best aspects of a Bioware game and never fail to get me rediculously hyped for it's arrival. And dreading because I really want to avoid spoiling myself this time around, in particular as to the number and details of companions!

I doubt the DA 2 companions will get as much attention. Some ME 2 companions got their own TV spots.

Modifié par Maria Caliban, 22 novembre 2010 - 04:06 .

[crimzontearz]

Maria Caliban wrote...

Awesome trailers:
http://www.youtube.c...?v=DdZT6HIwoU4' class='bbc_url' title='Lien externe' rel='nofollow external'>Prince of Persia
http://www.youtube.c...?v=doOoTXwdaPY' class='bbc_url' title='Lien externe' rel='nofollow external'>Dead Space
http://www.youtube.c...?v=voOX7vCjOCo' class='bbc_url' title='Lien externe' rel='nofollow external'>Gears of War

Apollo Starflare wrote...

I'm both hoping and dreading that the companion characters get the same marketing focus that ME2's squad got. Hoping because the characters are one of the best aspects of a Bioware game and never fail to get me rediculously hyped for it's arrival. And dreading because I really want to avoid spoiling myself this time around, in particular as to the number and details of companions!

I doubt the DA 2 companions will get as much attention. Some ME 2 companions got their own TV spots.

fight for the lost Maria

god Jack looked so ugly in her trailer....almost as ugly as Morrigan in sacred ashes

[Leonia]

crimzontearz wrote...

god Jack looked so ugly in her trailer....almost as ugly as Morrigan in sacred ashes

I actually quite liked Sacred Ashes Morrigan, maybe because she looked more tomboyish. I have a soft spot for ladies that look like pretty boys. No don't look at me like that.. *goes back to looking at pictures of Starbuck*

Modifié par leonia42, 22 novembre 2010 - 04:07 .

[mr_luga]

Mike Laidlaw wrote...

Grand_Commander13 wrote...
Has anyone around the office given any indication when they hope to put official gameplay videos out?  There are some haters I'd quite like to say "I told you so" to, but I need to know how long I'll have to wait to gloat.

Soon. Quite soon.

Valve time? Or normal folk time? 

EDIT to add: I agree with above poster, tomboy girls are hot ^^

Modifié par mr_luga, 22 novembre 2010 - 04:09 .

[Maria Caliban]

Jack looked great in her trailer. :/

Modifié par Maria Caliban, 22 novembre 2010 - 04:17 .

[Atakuma]

Maria Caliban wrote...

Jack looked great in her trailer. :/

*in oghren's voice* hot

[SirOccam]

Maria Caliban wrote...

Jack looked f*cking awesome in her trailer. :/

Fixed.

Seriously, they did such an amazing job on that trailer. I get goosebumps every time she says "because that's what I was made for."

I do think Morrigan looked kind of weird though. Her eyes are sort of...bulbous.

[Apollo Starflare]

Maria Caliban wrote...

I doubt the DA 2 companions will get as much attention. Some ME 2 companions got their own TV spots.

Yeah it doens't seem likely, especially given that at the end of the day ME2 was all about building your team, the companions in that were the main focus of the game more even than usual. Still, DAO had a trailer for each companion I believe, so that isn't out of the question!

leonia42 wrote...

crimzontearz wrote...

god Jack looked so ugly in her trailer....almost as ugly as Morrigan in sacred ashes

I actually quite liked Sacred Ashes Morrigan, maybe because she looked more tomboyish. I have a soft spot for ladies that look like pretty boys. No don't look at me like that.. *goes back to looking at pictures of Starbuck*

Yeah I'll agree with this, SA Morrigan never bothered me as much as it seems to have some people, there is maybe one shot where she doesn't look quite right. Jack is probably my favourite female ME2 character as well actually. /tangent. Edit: Basically I agree with the ninja's above me in regards to Jack.

Modifié par Apollo Starflare, 22 novembre 2010 - 04:25 .

[Brockololly]

The problem with the Blur/CGI trailers and especially with the Sacred Ashes one is that when the Warden or Morrigan opened their mouths it was terribly unnatural looking and dove right into the Uncanny Valley.

[FieryDove]

Maria Caliban wrote...

It's true, Leonia. I was playing Civilization V the other day and you can scroll out so far you can see the entire continent. That's why Civ V is the (second) greatest RPG ever!

It could be a great strategy game however required steamworks or cloud = fail in my book.

Civ 4 complete is awesome...mods galore too...ooooo shiny.

Mike Laidlaw wrote...

Soon. Quite soon.

Soon could be upto 12 months...that's not fast enough.

Oh and system specs and DRM would be nice to know also...pleezzze?

Modifié par FieryDove, 22 novembre 2010 - 07:47 .

[upsettingshorts]

Mike Laidlaw wrote...
I wouldn't want to live it down even if the chance were offered.

So the "This is the new sh*t" trailer is Bioware's answer to the Taco Bell dog?  Brand awareness over substance?  Not that I have a problem with that.  It does put it in a different context, though.  Sort of like Geico or Aflac commercials.  

I mean, the gecko or duck really don't have anything to do with insurance.  Just like Marilyn Manson didn't have much to do with DA:O gameplay.

Modifié par Upsettingshorts, 22 novembre 2010 - 07:39 .