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[Darkhour]

DarthCaine wrote...
Maybe because it'd be pretty stupid to put a 1 in the title ? (probably the reason NOBODY does it, there's no GTA 1 or CoD 1 or MGS1 etc)

If it's stupid to put a 1 in a title why does everyone do it once a 2 is announced?  Or is it stupid because you say so?

None of the GTA games are sequels.  They are all standalone games taking place in the same world presumably.
  
Metal Gear Solid: The Twin Snakes
Metal Gear Solid: Sons of Liberty
Metal Gear Solid: Snake Eater
Metal Gear Solid: Guns of the Patriots

Not that it matters.  I'm not concerned with other games' titles.  I am talking about Dragon Age.  Dragon Age 2 goes against the naming convention set up by Origins.  I think its lame even if DA2 was an actual sequel to Origins, which it isn't.  If the first game has just called "Dragon Age" we wouldn't be having this exchange. 

Wrong, it's Dragon Age: Origins - Awakening.

Right, because it was an actual sequel to Origins.  Thanks for helping me out there.

The fact that the first part has a subtitle means nothing. KOTOR didn't have one, but KOTOR 2: TSL did, same goes with The Witcher and TW2: Assassins of Kings, and many others.

So you think it should be Dragon Age 2: Rise to Power?  That could work.

DA2 IS a contiunation of the story. You fail to realize that 80% of sequels have a different protagonist:
SW: KOTOR2, NwN2, The Elder Scroll series, Fable series, Vampire: The Masquerade series, Final Fantasy series, Fallout series, Metal Gear Solid series, Devil May Cry 4, Manhunt 2, GTA series, Star Wars: Jedi Knight: Jedi Academy,  True Crime series, Call of Duty series, Resident Evil series, Mafia 2, Godfather 2, BioShock 2, Medal of Honor series, Brothers in Arms series, Soul Reaver etc etc...

I think it should be obvious by now that I don't consider all those games to be sequels.  We will have to agree to disagree.  Especialy Final Fantasy games. They are definitely not sequels save Final Fantasy X-2.  Just because a game's title has Call of Duty on it does not make the later a sequel to the former. Soul Reaver, in contrast, continues the story of Blood Omen.

What? That's exactly what DA is doing.

No it isn't. The first game is about the Blight.  Sorry, but taking place on the same planet or continent does not a sequel make. I guess you think Star Wars: Return of the Jedi is the sequel to Ewoks: The Battle for Endor?  Again, we'll have to agree to disagree. 

The Dragon Age books had NOTHING to do with The Blight or the mute Gay Warden. Are you saying they're not part of the DA series?

Part of the DA series. Yes. Hawkes story is also a part of the DA series. But it is not a sequel to Origins.  It is its own seperate story that happens to take place on the same continent.  DA:O wouldn't be a sequel to Leliana's Song, but LS is part of the DA series. 

I said nothing about the Warden being a requirement for a sequel. Cease with the strawman arguments.

Modifié par Darkhour, 21 novembre 2010 - 04:37 .

[Nerivant]

Darkhour wrote...
No it isn't. The first game is about the Blight.  Sorry, but taking place on the same planet or continent does not a sequel make.

In a game where the planet or continent is made up, it does.

You lose.

Press F1 to start a new game.

[Utoryo]

"Names are pretty, but useless. The Chasind folk call me Flemeth; I suppose it will do." --Flemeth.

Such silly pedantics. The name of the game is Dragon Age. Repeat after me: Age. Not Warden, not Blight, not even Flemeth. It's pretty clear that the series is the story of the Age and the great events of the era as told by the great heroes involved (aka Varric). So if you define a sequel as 'a novel, play, etc., that continues a previously related story' (as per the Collins English Dictionary) and you define the story of Dragon Age as a series as the story of the Age, Dragon Age 2 is certainly a sequel even in the strictest sense.

If that is not enough for you, and it appears it isn't, I suspect you have too much time on your hands, and you'd easily make a mockery of even the time I wasted writing this reply.

Modifié par Utoryo, 21 novembre 2010 - 05:04 .

[Behindyounow]

Did anyone else lose 'the Game' because of this thread's title?

[P_k_r]

Are you really arguing why the game is called "Dragon Age 2" and not "Dragon Age: Rise to Power"?

[Soul Reaver]

P_k_r wrote...

Are you really arguing why the game is called "Dragon Age 2" and not "Dragon Age: Rise to Power"?

It's just a cover, he's arguing that DA2 is not a sequel to Origins

[Nerivant]

Soul Reaver wrote...

P_k_r wrote...

Are you really arguing why the game is called "Dragon Age 2" and not "Dragon Age: Rise to Power"?

It's just a cover, he's arguing that DA2 is not a sequel to Origins

And losing handily. OP needs to give it up.

[Stazro]

Khayness wrote...

Sir JK wrote...

Darkhour: Short of the Baldur's Gate series, I cannot think of a single rpg sequel that actually fit that defintion.

Baldur's Gate 2:SoA Doesn't have anything to do with Baldur's Gate, therefore it's not a true sequel.

You play the exact same person, I think that's as close to a sequel as it gets.

[Lord_Valandil]

DarthCaine wrote...

the mute Gay Warden.

Wait, what?

[Nerivant]

Lord_Valandil wrote...

DarthCaine wrote...

the mute Gay Warden.

Wait, what?

You obviously didn't play Awakening.

[Lord_Valandil]

Nerivant wrote...

Lord_Valandil wrote...

DarthCaine wrote...

the mute Gay Warden.

Wait, what?

You obviously didn't play Awakening.

I did play Awakening, but I don't get it.

[Nerivant]

Lord_Valandil wrote...

Nerivant wrote...

Lord_Valandil wrote...

DarthCaine wrote...

the mute Gay Warden.

Wait, what?

You obviously didn't play Awakening.

I did play Awakening, but I don't get it.

It was just a misspelling. I was making a joke out of it. Ugh.

[Lord_Valandil]

Nerivant wrote...

It was just a misspelling. I was making a joke out of it. Ugh.

Ow, sorry. I feel that my mind is in another place.

[Khayness]

Stazro wrote...

You play the exact same person, I think that's as close to a sequel as it gets.

Oh really.

[Stazro]

Khayness wrote...

Oh really.

On the internet, you never know.

[RinpocheSchnozberry]

Dragon Age 2: All Out Of Love

[Stompi]

Well, in my opinion it was pretty from the beginning that the our Grey Warden won't be the focus of the entire series

- we were told that they plan to make Dragon Age a major franchise
- there are books before the release without our Grey Warden
- there was flash game before the release without our Warden
- a map of Thedas existed before Origins and Ferelden was a very small part
- the purpose of the Grey Wardens is to kill the Archdemon(s) during a Blight and there is none at the moment
- there are definitaly more powerful creatures in Thedas than a Ferelden Warden (Flemeth etc.)

While there might be another game where we play our Grey Warden, it would make little sense for him to visit every place in Thedas.He is already busy rebuilding the order, traveling and living with his love interest or one his companions. He doesn't have unlimited time because of the taint.
Do you think Bioware put so much work in Thedas without using the entire universe?

Modifié par Stompi, 21 novembre 2010 - 07:49 .

[Spartansfan8888]

Here's my take on the whole thing:



Has anyone ever seen the movie Sin City? The stories in Thedas are organized in pretty much the same way. Different stories and different characters for each chapter that might briefly intersect with one another but could each easily stand on their own.

[Cutlasskiwi]

Spartansfan8888 wrote...

Here's my take on the whole thing:

Has anyone ever seen the movie Sin City? The stories in Thedas are organized in pretty much the same way. Different stories and different characters for each chapter that might briefly intersect with one another but could each easily stand on their own.

I agree. I remember BioWare being pretty clear that with Dragon Age they want to focus on the world and not making a continuing story. Hence all the books, flash games and so on.. 

[Onyx Jaguar]

Remember Diablo 2 where you were going around killing the protagonists of Diablo 1



Lets hope its like that.

[Darkhour]

Nerivant wrote...

Darkhour wrote...
No it isn't. The first game is about the Blight.  Sorry, but taking place on the same planet or continent does not a sequel make.

In a game where the planet or continent is made up, it does.

You lose.

Press F1 to start a new game.

I see you're out of arguments.  Thanks for playing.

[Nerivant]

Darkhour wrote...

Nerivant wrote...

Darkhour wrote...
No it isn't. The first game is about the Blight.  Sorry, but taking place on the same planet or continent does not a sequel make.

In a game where the planet or continent is made up, it does.

You lose.

Press F1 to start a new game.

I see you're out of arguments.  Thanks for playing.

You still haven't provided proof that DA2 is not a sequel to DAO. And since it follows the definition of a sequel to the letter, there isn't proof. Your argument is invalid. Good day.

[Darkhour]

Soul Reaver wrote...

It's just a cover, he's arguing that DA2 is not a sequel to Origins

To what end, exactly?

[Morroian]

Darkhour wrote...

No it isn't. The first game is about the Blight.  Sorry, but taking place on the same planet or continent does not a sequel make.

Sure it does, look up any dictionary and you will find that DA2 will fit a definition of a sequel in it. The fact that you personally don't interpret this sort of a continuaiton as a sequel is irrelevant, society disagrees.