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[Beaner28]

On my current play through as an archery spec Rogue, I'm using War Dog in my group a lot for the first time. I never used the Mabari before because to me having a dog was uninteresting compared to having the other companions.

I wanted to try something different on this go around and I'm finding he's very effective. He has a nice charge ability to close distance in fights which is also a knockdown, he has an AoE stun, another knockdown with Overwhelm which is one of the best talents/abilities in the game. He's also gets a nice buff with Mabari Dominance. I've just been dumping a lot of points into Strength and he does crazy damage, especially with the + beast damage Kaddis. He is a formidable canine.

[Ferretinabun]

Also he's faster than any other companion, so the best for running up to mages if you don't have any ranged capabilities, and kiting.
I imagine he'd be great for one-man-and-his-dog runthroughs for those who fancy a bit of company on their 'solo' games.
So 'not as bad as people seem to think' is fair. But 'best'? Yeah, I'll go with crazy.

[Undead Nutcase]

Honestly, I think the hound is an excellent companion. He makes an excellent tank if you throw all of his stats into constitution and strength. He incredibly fast when in battle stance and he can use overwhelm, which is a mage's worst nightmare.

Modifié par Undead Nutcase, 21 novembre 2010 - 11:48 .

[Lord_Caledore]

Overwhelm alone makes him a worthy addition to a party. The fact that it can even work on humanoid bosses - Zathrian, for instance - can trivialize some fights. His other abilities can be very useful, too, but Overwhelm is really the gem of his abilities.



I use the Extra Dog Slot mod, though, so I never have to choose between having Dog or another companion!

[x-president]

Yea Overwhelm rocks.  It rocks even more when you have a party full of Shapeshifting mages with the dog and everybody overwhelms at the same time.

Or one after the other on a Boss and totally dominates them.



I don't mind the dog.  I just wish he had some more abilities.  After a certain point you get everything and can't use the points.

[Saberchic]

He is pretty awesome to have in the party. I love taking him along. He's great for crowd control, and he can rip the enemy apart in no time! <3  I guess I'm one of the few in the minority that actually gets a kick out of his interactions with others in the party.

[Stormbringer3]

Since the OP has high regard for the +beast damage Kaddis, what does the +beast Kaddis damage outside of the obvious occasional animal such a wolf?

Thanks.

[Zjarcal]

Absolutely, Doggie rocks!! As mentioned, overwhelm alone makes him one of the most useful party members, especially with humanoid bosses. Combine his overwhelm with a backstabbing rogue and the boss will be dead in no time.



And if you're on PC, use the Extra Dog Slot mod so that Doggie can be with you all the time without leaving other companions behind.

[Raistlin Maj]

Oh I love this Dog. It can find things that are awsome items. If you dont' try that option, you are missing many great items. Only bad thing is that you can't have sex with the dog. There is no plot for that...

[Ferretinabun]

Thank God...

Modifié par Ferretinabun, 24 novembre 2010 - 06:58 .

[Elhanan]

Dog is quite effective, but he dies so quickly in the higher lvls. Perhaps he is better on the console, as someone mentioned he also gains the warrior talents seen in WH.

[Zjarcal]

I can understand why you'd think it feels like cheating, since it gives you five party members instead of four.

But bear in mind that you can at any time have several ranger pets and undead companions with you (provided you have the appropriate talents). For instance, two wolfs and an undead companion would certainly be a much bigger help than Dog alone (hell, two wolfs alone would be a stronger team), and that's well within the game rules. So it's not like you're gaining an excessive advantage by having the EDS mod.

Modifié par Zjarcal, 24 novembre 2010 - 07:59 .

[Zjarcal]

Well, you do need two rangers in the party for that (you could have up to three if you make both Leli and Zev rangers and are one yourself). Or several mages with the "Animate dead" talent. Hell, if you have three rangers and a mage (or three mages and a ranger or any other appropriate combination), you could have a party of eight!



At any rate, you got my point about the EDS mod not being an unfair advantage.

[1xs3thx1]

Glaucon wrote...

Zjarcal wrote...

I can understand why you'd think it feels like cheating, since it gives you five party members instead of four.

But bear in mind that you can at any time have several ranger pets and undead companions with you (provided you have the appropriate talents). For instance, two wolfs and an undead companion would certainly be a much bigger help than Dog alone (hell, two wolfs alone would be a stronger team), and that's well within the game rules. So it's not like you're gaining an excessive advantage by having the EDS mod.

As ever I am improved by your comments.  Never knew a Ranger could do that.  In that case it's not so disconcerting.

The reason it would feel like cheating to me, personally, is because the Ranger uses points to acquire that capability, whereas adding an extra dog slot does not. I suppose one could "gimp" their character to even out the imbalance, if one wished to do such a thing.

[Zjarcal]

@1xs3thx1

Good point on the "gimping" part. I don't do that since I really I'm not concerned about any unfair advantages the mod might give (I use a mod that increases the difficulty so it sort of balances itself out).
 
But if one is really concerned about it, they could sacrifice a talent point for the EDS mod.

@Glaucon:

Scratch would be better off peeing on your enemies. 

Modifié par Zjarcal, 24 novembre 2010 - 08:19 .

[Addai]

Beaner28 wrote...

On my current play through as an archery spec Rogue, I'm using War Dog in my group a lot for the first time. I never used the Mabari before because to me having a dog was uninteresting compared to having the other companions.

I wanted to try something different on this go around and I'm finding he's very effective. He has a nice charge ability to close distance in fights which is also a knockdown, he has an AoE stun, another knockdown with Overwhelm which is one of the best talents/abilities in the game. He's also gets a nice buff with Mabari Dominance. I've just been dumping a lot of points into Strength and he does crazy damage, especially with the + beast damage Kaddis. He is a formidable canine.

(Husband)

You forget Dogs complete 100% loyalty to you, that a big one.   

I tend to not use dog a lot just for one limitation, you can't use him to store/mule human items like you can another humanoid companion.    That was a big factor when I was new to the game.   It started to hurt when I ran out of bag slots going through the Dungeon of the Elven questline and I had to begin deleting my cheaper treasure items to make room for the better ones.  I had used up all the jewelry, ring, armor and ring slots of my Warden, Morgan and Alistair.  I knew if I had another human I wouldn't have to out throw nearly as much as I was starting too, but by that time I way to far in to change plans....

Modifié par Addai67, 24 novembre 2010 - 09:00 .

[Raistlin Maj]

Elhanan wrote...

Dog is quite effective, but he dies so quickly in the higher lvls. Perhaps he is better on the console, as someone mentioned he also gains the warrior talents seen in WH.

Agree, so I tried to do that console cheat on the dog by adding 1000 hitpoints and it did NOT work.   Why is this ?????  does Godlike console cheat Not work on this dog  character ????    It works on every other characeter it seems albeit i only used it on One character only.   but dog seem like a good to increase the hitpoint on.   but it didn't work on it.   is this a Bug ?????????????   or is it supposed to be that way ???

Modifié par Raistlin Maj, 24 novembre 2010 - 01:45 .

[Raistlin Maj]

Ferretinabun wrote...

Thank God...

You may feel that way but i think it would be really fun to have Talking dog.   a Dog that you can have conversation with like other characters do which i find really fun.   even though some conversation can be drawn out,  it is still fun.   and the Romancing the character is Uber fun as well.   why not do the same with the dog ???

[Arthur Cousland]

I'd use the mabari more of they had some kind of ranged attack for the dragon fights, and had more to add in dialogue.  Given that they're a dog, they can't really talk.  Overwhelm and dread howl are certainly useful talents though.

[Raistlin Maj]

Arthur Cousland wrote...

I'd use the mabari more of they had some kind of ranged attack for the dragon fights, and had more to add in dialogue.  Given that they're a dog, they can't really talk.  Overwhelm and dread howl are certainly useful talents though.

If dragon can tallk,,, whay can't the dog talk ??