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[Aleque]

Hi

I am close finishing the game with my second playthrough. I am considering to that one last time as an elf female.

Will the game experience be much different as a female char, if we ignore the whole Alistair and the ending part?
What can I expect to be different, overall?

Thanks in advance

[Zjarcal]

Aside from the obvious differences (how people address you), you already pointed out two of the biggest differences, Alistair and the Dark Ritual.



Certain conversations with other companions will also be different (Sten will give you a very interesting conversation early on). Leliana and Zevran's dialogs will also be slightly different in certain parts (and obviously during the romances).



There are a few moments where you will be able to flirt with NPCs, but on the whole it won't make a huge difference. The differences are sublte, and I for one really appreciate them.

[ejoslin]

There are some different companion banters as well. I've only played a male once, but it really felt a whole lot different.

[bleetman]

Aside from what Zjarcal said, the city elf intro is the only other thing that really springs to mind. Events there take a fairly different turn based on your gender.

Modifié par bleetman, 21 novembre 2010 - 10:40 .

[Reika]

I think you'll find a bigger difference playing an elf than a female. Unless you play an elf mage, then that's a whole new world of bigotry.

[Aleque]

On my current (second) playthrough, I tried to play totally opposite of, how I did the first time. First time I played Human Noble Warrior and I was good, caring and generous. The second time I started Human Mage and I was taking advantage of every situation, people and being cocky, and arrogant.



What dissapointed me the most were the vastigial answer variations, which resulted in the same answers compared to the other ones. The "taunts" in the Proving Grounds felt also pointless.



And I felt the same with relationships. Besides few neat conversations, and a clip of a pornographic scene, it didn't seem that the relationship had much impact on my game. When the person I was in relationship said everything that there was to be said, there was nothing to do further, but it is ofcourse understandable as there are limited amount of voice recordings for each character.



I hope that Alistair's romance will be worth it.

[ejoslin]

I think Leliana has the shortest romance. The others span the entire game, though you run out of dialog for sure. Alistair's romance is beautiful, however. it very much captures the whole flush of first love. It's not my favorite romance, but it is worth doing.



Alistair made me cry my first playthrough (unspoiled). my heart literally broke. it was fantastic. The whole ending was a complete whirlwind of emotion (and cemented me forever as a Zevran Fangirl).

[Aleque]

I am glad to hear that I am not the only one who gets so emotional by this sort of thing. Your words are encouraging. I will give it a chance. Perhaps after taking a shorter break, just to forget a bit of the phrases and such. It feels like I have been grinding this game way too much lately, in a desperate search for changes compared to my first game, which I still... took a bit for granted.

Ejoslin, your favorite romance is with Zevran, right?


EDIT: ah, yes it seems so, given what you said

Modifié par Aleque, 21 novembre 2010 - 11:03 .

[Reika]

I'm a hopeless Ali fangirl, have been since my first disastrous playthrough (where I learned the value of saving before talking to anyone). I've never had a game romance capture my imagination the way Alistair's did in DAO.



Not that the other companions aren't important to me, just in different ways.

[Zjarcal]

bleetman wrote...

Aside from what Zjarcal said, the city elf intro is the only other thing that really springs to mind. Events there take a fairly different turn based on your gender. 

I think this is the case were the gender makes the most difference. Not only does the quest itself change significantly, the emotional impact is much stronger when playing a female.

ejoslin wrote...

I think Leliana has the shortest romance. The others span the entire game.

Well it's not so much that it's shorter, it's that unlike all the other ones it's not tied to plot events. Were it not for Taliesin's encounter being the requirement for Zevran to reach "love" status, his romance could also end quite early.

[ok go]

roll males, female wardens are terrible

[Giggles_Manically]

ok go wrote...

roll males, female wardens are terrible

ignore ok go he is a troll.

[ok go]

alot of lines really felt like male lines

[Gilsa]

bleetman wrote...

Aside from what Zjarcal said, the city elf intro is the only other thing that really springs to mind. Events there take a fairly different turn based on your gender.

Just adding that the DN female also has a big change based on gender as well since Gorim can be romanced in the origins. I noticed that male PCs were able to ask for kisses as compensation for their services -- don't recall females being able to do that.

A few interesting tidbits, but nothing major:
- The female PC has multiple ways of telling Gheyna how she made a man out of Cammen so that's always fun to try out.
- The female PC can romance Leliana and if Oghren is in the party if the PC sets up a threesome with Isabella, he will pass out at the thought of all these women getting it on. Up to you if that's worth seeing.
- Mages can flirt with Cullen and have him run away flustered. There's additional dialogue when the warden returns to the tower and sees Cullen again.

[ok go]

I know the Isabela confrontation has some male only lines

Modifié par ok go, 21 novembre 2010 - 11:44 .

[ejoslin]

Aleque wrote...

I am glad to hear that I am not the only one who gets so emotional by this sort of thing. Your words are encouraging. I will give it a chance. Perhaps after taking a shorter break, just to forget a bit of the phrases and such. It feels like I have been grinding this game way too much lately, in a desperate search for changes compared to my first game, which I still... took a bit for granted.

Ejoslin, your favorite romance is with Zevran, right?


EDIT: ah, yes it seems so, given what you said

I do like Zevran's romance, and it has to do with that first playthrough.  I did no reloading as I wanted to just live with the consequences of my actions.  Alistair seriously broke my heart, i sat there staring at my monitor in complete disbelief for about 15 minutes when that happened, before getting up and getting some space.  But then I got the best ending for Zevran's romance where they end up engaged, and felt so lifted up.  And it may not be fair of me, because i know Alistair can have a happy ending,but wow, the intensity of my emotions at the end of both of the romances.

Both are amazing stories.  David Gaider outdid himself on both. 

Edit: The night Alistair broke my heart, my poor husband had a very pissy wife!  hahahaha!

Modifié par ejoslin, 22 novembre 2010 - 01:17 .

[mousestalker]

I was devastated by my first Alistair romance. It had an exceptionally final resolution. I must have reloaded and selected different dialogue choices over a dozen times (some were repeats). It was one of less than a half dozen times a game has had me screaming at the monitor.

The only origin I would recommend the female over the male role is the city elf. If you roleplay and it sounds as though you do, the female city elf is much more personal than the male city elf. You may want to select a role that allows you to do a great deal of damage. The city elf can also pick a very cheeky reply to King Cailan at one point. The return to the Alienage is nicely done.

Modifié par mousestalker, 22 novembre 2010 - 01:19 .

[Aleque]

ejoslin: You are mentioning the engaging part. Is it illustrated in a form of video and audio, or merely as text, at the end?

Anyway. First time I played, I haven't constantly saved and loaded to get the "most optimal" result in the conversations. That was the beauty of ignorance. And it had it's charm. I really played my character, like I wanted him to be. I avoided the conflict, both among NPC's and my own companions. And I sticked to those companions who supported my considerate attitude, still without pissing off the "evil" ones.

Also the ending (ultimate sacrifice) happened so suddenly, without me expecting that everything would end so fast. Still it felt like the right choise, and it got me real emotional, seeing the funeral of my ingame avatar. It was really like having a short vision or dream of watching my own funeral. It is hard to describe. I am glad that a game can make you feel like that. And I hope it will get better in the future.

But then I realized that the game didn't play out as I wanted it, when Satovir (my char) died. My romance with Leliana haven't even been triggered, probably due to some bug, and I have spent so much energy, caring for her, and make her feel important. The same with Duncan's Shield, as a gift to Alistair. I had no access to it after the Landsmeet, so when I loaded the game, I had to use a cheatcode to gain the shield, which I could not have gotten otherwise.

My point is: on my second playthrough (with my new evil char) my expectations were higher, plus I felt compelled to make the opposite decisions, compared to my previous char, trying to see the different aspect of the game. I have to admit that being evil in a game, often doesn't feel right for me, but it was a good way to blow some steam off, after seing the injustice with the fate of my first character. Regarding making different choises; It often worked, but many times it was obvious that the game was still pretty linear in it's core, and the ramifications of ones actions were merely superflous/cosmetic, with no real impact on the story. Maybe I am wrong.

Anyway. I still feel like I have been playing it too much lately, and rushing too fast with my second char. A bit of a bad mix of: me going into compulsive thinking mode, and trying to experience it ALL (which is almost impossible). And it is important to stop by sometimes and enjoy the surroundings, rather than always having the next goal in mind.


As for me, playing a female char. It is still something I have to consider. I find it a bit hard, putting myself into a role of a woman. No offence.









edit: wow, you reply fast  still editing this reply. Your F5 button might need a replacing soon

Modifié par Aleque, 22 novembre 2010 - 02:07 .

[ejoslin]

Aleque wrote...

You are mentioning the engaging part. Is it illustrated in a form of video and audio, or merely as text, at the end?

Neither.  Zevran in his own way proposes, kind of, if you make a certain decision earlier.  The only actual weddings mentioned in the epilogue and the post-coronation are royal ones (Alistair/Anora).

Here's a video of the conversation with the proposal, though in it the warden turns it down.  It is a huge spoiler of how Zevran romance completes, but if you want to see it, here it is.  i made the video for people who said it wasn't really a proposal!  It ends badly if you don't accept.

this conversation is for males as well, btw.  

Modifié par ejoslin, 22 novembre 2010 - 01:31 .

[Aleque]

Gah... that dog barking, making me rage inside. Really ruins the atmosphere...

[Zjarcal]

There is a mod that reduces (or eliminates) the barking.

[Aleque]

heh ye, I have already installed that 1 week ago, but with my second char, I didn't even get the dog

[Zjarcal]

Monster... 

[Aleque]

Well. 1) my char was evil, so it was the right decision for his attitude 2) I really can't concentrate, when I hear it barking, even when it's modded and reduced



A real trained hound has to learn to shut up

[Bourne Endeavor]

Hmm, glad to hear such a well received opinion on Alistair romance. I had been debating between him and Leliana for my Fem-file. Still will probably go through with both since I have roleplay thoughts for both but nice to see hear all the same.