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[A.Alhazred]

I must admit that I feel there is something of a lack of powerful loot. Also, a lack of gold. I've seen several great looking items in store that cost nearly 5 times the TOTAL amount of gold that I've ever had.



There was a staff in the Quartermasters store that was worth roughly 125 gold. 25 Gold was the most I had ever collected. Urgh.



Also, if I hadn't actually bought the current staff I'm using, I'd still be using the silly Tier 3 staff I got when I left the Tower at the end of the Mage Origin :|



Now, magical longsowrds I find a few of, and I've found three or so magical daggers. Magical sets of armor I've also found a few of (though I admith the two best sets did come in the DLC).

[chrcoe]

for my arcane warrior, i found a really nice longsword that is specifically for arcane warrior. got it off a mage on my way up the inside of the mountain from haven. after i got it, I have had so much more fun with my AW. it had phys resist, +mana regen and some other stats with 2 open rune slots... worked perfectly with my class.

before I became an AW though, I did find it hard to get good robes/hoods etc.  eventually (after AW status), I came across some really nice robes which now morrigan and wynne use.  good stats/resists/regen etc.

and yes, if you have to go with non-cloth .. light armor sets are the best way because as someone mentioned here, you can sometimes get -fatigue because of set status.  which is nice if the armor has the right stats mages need.

Modifié par chrcoe, 12 novembre 2009 - 08:27 .

[Urbanmech]

Jab0r wrote...

And I have yet to see a good leather armor set that can even match the robes or heavy armor.

Wade's Drakeskin.

But it looks the same as all the others...just purple

[Mnemnosyne]

Mage gear seems rightfully difficult to find, because mages are already quite powerful as well as the fact that there aren't supposed to be many mages out there. Admittedly however, the Circle tower should have more good mage gear.

[tobajas]

Well i have found about 16 diffrent magical robes for mages as well as about 10 diffrent for all the other slots as well as around 20 diffrent staffs. There are not as many items as for the other classes but as stated before mages dont need gear as much as the others the battle at the landsmeet ended in about 10 seconds because my mage cast 3 spells. That if something is a bit powerful Also if you want to know where to get gear either went for a game guide or walkthrough buy the game guide or ask in the spoiler forum.

[SirGCal]

PhantoMSouljaX wrote...
...and also bioware you really dumbed the graphics down on the 360 way tomuch,i love the game how it is and my eyes have got used to it but sometimes when im dungeon crawling and see a horrid bland texture i give a large sigh,the werewolf textures...really?I play on a widescreen samsung hdtv 1080i with the same results.

It's all the aging console can handle. You expect it to act like modern hardware with modern shadows and controls when it's what, 4 years old now? A 4 year old computer couldn't play it very well either. Not like I like anyhow with everything maxed out and turned on to max at 1920x1080 or even higher... The 360 is old and honestly, junk. I haven't turned mine on for over a year now... all I did use it for before then even was just streaming netflix... For gaming other than some sports games, it's just not capable enough. You don't have the controls... Honestly, I couldn't imagine playing this on the 360... I need my countless hot keys and combinations. 12 little buttons (14 if you include start and select) just don't cut it. I have 10 just in the spellbar alone.

If it's all you got. Sure, but other than that, this should really be played on the PC. (and if you want to use your huge TV, any PC worth a darn can easily be plugged right in to them today...)

 

[SirGCal]

Ohh, and I have no problem finding mage gear... Not sure if it's just luck but I've got gloves that are nuts (20% bonus damage), good chest, rings, boots (12 defense, drakeskin) etc. Head gear I've sold more than anything else with tons of that... Plus some of the staffs are just sick...

[RaNGeRGaV]

I've seen some mage boots in Bodhans inventory in the party camp. I guess they're only low level though.

[Knough]

I think the hardest piece to find was a nice robe. I ended up buying Trevinter's robe for fairly cheap which I used until later on where I ended up buying the Reaper's one. The alienage dropped several robes for me, but that was towards the end of everything I did.

[maikanix]

The mage hats anyone? Hats? They're terrible. Awful. I don't want to wear them, but they have good effects - so I have morrigan, for example, in her standard 'robe' and a mage hat. It's ridiculous. Someone needs to make a mod to re-do those horrific items. A circlet, a cap, ANYTHING but those nun hats.

[Flamesz]

Arcane Warrior, nuff said.

[Flamesz]

Arcane Warrior, nuff said.

[jedensuscg]

wearing heavier armor in this game as a mage is not a no-no like some games. For the most part, you can safely wear rough or sturdy armors and do well. Even with Combat Magic (arcane warrior) and wearing full dragon blood armor, my mage can get several costly aoe's off, and have enough left to spam a few single target nukes. taking off Combat Magic, i get even more spells off with near 40% fatigue.

[Ultrazennn]

greeneggsnoham wrote...


Agreed. Rogues were hard to equip, particularly dagger wielding rogues.

Also, what was with the piles and piles of medium armour? Chainmail (not heavy chain), splint, scale everywhere. Who wears that stuff?

This was really my only complaint about the game. A lot of the drops were crap. Push all the way through a thieves' guild, kill the boss, open the chest at the end and find a regular dagger... I can't count how many times I opened a chest and smacked my forehead. 'Woohoo! All that work for a lesser spirit balm!'

This is my pet peeve with every bioware game I've ever played.  The one thing they don't, and never have had a handle on, is loot.  The loot in all their games is lackluster, mundane, and sparse.

There is nothing more unsatisfying for a player, than to run through some huge gauntlet of mobs, defeat a tough boss, open a chest, and find some worthless piece of crud common gear.

[Asyork]

Ultrazennn wrote...

This is my pet peeve with every bioware game I've ever played.  The one thing they don't, and never have had a handle on, is loot.  The loot in all their games is lackluster, mundane, and sparse.

There is nothing more unsatisfying for a player, than to run through some huge gauntlet of mobs, defeat a tough boss, open a chest, and find some worthless piece of crud common gear.

I barely played NWN, and never played any other Bioware game after it until DA:O, but the Baldur's Gate series had some seriously awesome loot.  Try fighting through Watcher's Keep and then tell me the loot wasn't good.

[A.Alhazred]

Baldur's Gate 2 had some awesome loot - I was always satisfied with the stuff I picked up there, and the fact that we had a much smaller inventory made it even harder - we had no infinite plot inventory back then either!



I'm not syaing we should go back to that, but damn did it ever make choosing between magical longswords hard!



On the subject as mage hats and robes - they are both as ugly as sin. The Tevinter style robes on my female char look alright (and I don't count the skimpy chainmail as "alright", that's a stereotype I avoid), but ... well, it's a bit ridiculous. Don't even get me started on the hats.



On the subject of loot - Planescape Tormet had awesome loot - I'm not even talking about some of the awesome physical loot that goes into your inventory (Modron Cube, anyone? Lady of Pain doll? So awesome! I personally loved the weird shaped diary thing), I'm talking about some of the stat increases that you get ... and, if I'm honest, I actually consider some of the plot revalations loot. I honestly found myself wanted to know the answers to the questions (Whatcan change the nature of a man?) as much as the game characters did, which I have never experienced before then.

[Dauphin2]

Some of the best Mage robes I found dropped of Mages I fought. There are a couple mage battles, and in most cases you have dialog to either let them live, or kill them. Pro Tip: if you let them live, you don't get their awesome robes.

[mneish]

All mages items look the same. I had on a 6 gold cloth item then I bought a 92 gold cloth item from the shop and it looked exactly the same only a little darker.



I hope if they make a DA2 mages clothes look different just like the armour.

[Pocketgb]

Yeah, armor variety in this game kinda sucks, sadly.

[Garamond01]

maikanix wrote...

The mage hats anyone? Hats? They're terrible. Awful. I don't want to wear them, but they have good effects - so I have morrigan, for example, in her standard 'robe' and a mage hat. It's ridiculous. Someone needs to make a mod to re-do those horrific items. A circlet, a cap, ANYTHING but those nun hats.

definitely a lack of variety as robes go but with the DAO lore  I can somewhat understand it..  but  the headgear is absolutely awful looking..  I hope they give you the option to hide headgear so you can at least get the stats without looking like an idiot.

[Auraad]

Actually, I find enough good items for all my partymembers ... the members of my standard party have the best equip, of course, but the others at the camp are well equipped also.

I agree that the diversity of mage robes is slim ... almost non existant ... but ... hey, I'll live.

[Fryce]

sombrus wrote...

Ever notice there is a great deal of leather armor... and a great deal of heavy armor... etc etc?

My mage is still walking around in the boots she got right around the time she was in the tower. Same with the robe that she ripped off Wynn. There's almost no mage gear in the game. Like none... it's bizarre. Even in the mage tower... there's almost no gear for mages... wtf, yo?

Consider this: Being a mage is a VERY rare trait: Only 2 of the 3 known races can successfully wield its power; further to that a mage is known about quite early on in their childhood! Very quickly this mage-child will be confronted by the templars/chantry to be "imprisoned" and "trained" in the Circle of Magi or else be killed. He/She/It may try to escape to live as rogue mages that will likely turn into abominations through blood magic or improper use of magic tearing the fade.  We also know that the Circle of Magi exsists in almost every nation thanks to many conversations and codexs (Zev has a lot to say on this matter haha) with the HQ of sorts being possibly the Tevinter.

So. In a SENSE THIS IS BEAUTIFUL for role playing purposes. OF COURSE Ferelden doesn't have a strip mall just for friggin mages! They are usually living in the circle or on a tight leash from the Templars. You do not simply see mages having a stroll in Denerim Market.

From first seeing the First Enchanter in his gear you should start to generally understand that this is the universal approved uniform of the Circle of Magi. It is just as much a safeguard for YOU from templars AND the public to know "what" you are!..the people of these times are very suspicious and afraid of magic, just as some were towards technology/computers when it first came out (certainly not to this degree but yeah..) Any "unique" looking robe is usually worn by a malificar[SP?] of sorts I.E: Reaper Vestment! Hell Even the THOUSAND year old keeper of a certain place wears the same garb as ALL mages of the circle which implies he too was originally a circle mage However his apprentice (Trying to avoid spoilers) wears the more unique looking robe: AGAIN this means she is not a mage of the circle; this we learn if you talk to her deeply.

This all makes me feel it re-enforces the whole notion of the clothes being more of a cattle brand then providing any real usefulness besides covering you up

Ultrazennn wrote...

greeneggsnoham wrote...


Agreed. Rogues were hard to equip, particularly dagger wielding rogues.

Also,
what was with the piles and piles of medium armour? Chainmail (not
heavy chain), splint, scale everywhere. Who wears that stuff?

This
was really my only complaint about the game. A lot of the drops were
crap. Push all the way through a thieves' guild, kill the boss, open
the chest at the end and find a regular dagger... I can't count how
many times I opened a chest and smacked my forehead. 'Woohoo! All that
work for a lesser spirit balm!'

This is my pet peeve
with every bioware game I've ever played.  The one thing they don't,
and never have had a handle on, is loot.  The loot in all their games
is lackluster, mundane, and sparse.

There is nothing more
unsatisfying for a player, than to run through some huge gauntlet of
mobs, defeat a tough boss, open a chest, and find some worthless piece
of crud common gear.

DISAGREE DISAGREE.

I for one would not expect the super-rare-glammering-sexy-sword[armor]-of-epicness to be found in every single damn chest that I pick! Esp since this would be CRAP if they came from locked chests: why should I get punished for not bringing along a damn rogue?! Would it make sense for such great items to be attainable so readily and easily in the world of DA:O?? Why should I bother slaying dragons/darkspawn if I can have a rogue and open a few chests??

Again for the world of dragon age: there are LOOTERS/thieves/scammers that have come long before you. Most places are picked CLEAN. There are certain ancient and sealed off places that do give you damn great loot. I for one have accumulated well over 450G in my first playthrough from npcing this junk and buying the rarer equipment or forging them (wade). Infact wade gives you a great set of suprerior splintmail looking armor and if your AW it gives you great bonuses and a beautiful -7% fatigue to boot!

I have not played other bioware games at all but I do feel the scaling of gear is somewhat appropriate to the progression/difficulty level of the game. Yes yes we can nitpick here and there but we do because we love their creation in the end.

Although no mater what anyone could possibly say: The mage hats are terrible, a crime, for shame for shame

But yes, in general, they could have been more creative with the unique looking robes and possibly even the staves but there are development/budget issues obviously. More then highly likely the next installment of DA:O will have us drooling Lyrium.

tl;dr: mage hats are ugly and the mage clothing are more of a tramp stamp by the circle of magi.

Modifié par SharpneI, 10 décembre 2009 - 08:50 .

[Gecon]

Bioware has stated they go for a "low magic" setting.



Now obviously magic isnt "low" really, but magic items are obviously rare.



Personally I never thought of having not enough loot for my mages ... they are typically my main power, so I have spend only little thought on getting them better gear.

[mneish]

I guess when I think about it what SharpneI says is right about mages gear.



I just hope then in DA2 they set it somewhere or at a time when mages are more "free" to do what they want.

[Coastwatcher]

There are new mage robes in the Korcari Wilds that you can get even before doing the Joining ritual. Follow the chasind sign quest until you uncover their cache. The look depends on one's taste, I'd guess, and it looks too feminine on a male mage IMO, but at least you get a chance for a new set of robes right after leaving the mage origin.