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[Giggles_Manically]

David Gaider wrote...

outlaw1109 wrote...
The problem with that would be, of course, if they keep it canon with your playthrough. I really hope so...

We do have situations in DA2 where someone being dead in DAO means you simply won't see them again, period. We also have situations where a living character from DAO has a different appearance based on how they ended up.

All I'm saying is that someone who is dead might be alive, if we feel it's worthy and have an explanation-- even if that explanation is a hand-wave. That is not to be taken as "all dead characters will have their death ignored". It's to be taken as "we will exert our narrator perogative if we feel it's necessary."

Maybe they all have a fade spirit keeping them alive like Wynne.
That was weird when I saw her in Awakening after my mage walking bombed her.

[David Gaider]

Upsettingshorts wrote...
Confirmed: Drunk Alistair has a messy, unkempt beard.

Err... I meant "appearance" as in how they appear in the game, not in how they physically look.

[Ortaya Alevli]

Upsettingshorts wrote...

Confirmed: Drunk Alistair has a messy, unkempt beard.

You know this is just the opportunity for us to come up with the Warden being resurrected by the Tevinter/Disciples/whatnot again.

[Bryy_Miller]

Upsettingshorts wrote...

Confirmed: Drunk Alistair has a messy, unkempt beard.

I approve.

[tmp7704]

filaminstrel wrote...

Heh, but it's kind of strange if you happened to do a deathblow decapitation on them, unless they're really good at feigning death.

That's one of these things which set apart the really good rogues from the rest...

[Firky]

David Gaider wrote...

Upsettingshorts wrote...
Confirmed: Drunk Alistair has a messy, unkempt beard.

Err... I meant "appearance" as in how they appear in the game, not in how they physically look.

Aw. I started immediately hoping that meant

*spoiler*

either golem Shale or dwarf Shale depending on epilogue.


That would be too cool! (But probably a hassle to try to implement.)

Modifié par Firky, 23 novembre 2010 - 01:57 .

[Morroian]

outlaw1109 wrote...

In any case, what Gaider said before about reviving the fallen -even though we were warned in origins- they have already told us about. I fought Flemeth. I killed that massive dragon she became and now I'm quite irked that she lives.

Why? It was heavily implied in DAO that she wasn't really dead.

[errant_knight]

David Gaider wrote...

outlaw1109 wrote...
The problem with that would be, of course, if they keep it canon with your playthrough. I really hope so...

We do have situations in DA2 where someone being dead in DAO means you simply won't see them again, period. We also have situations where a living character from DAO has a different appearance based on how they ended up.

All I'm saying is that someone who is dead might be alive, if we feel it's worthy and have an explanation-- even if that explanation is a hand-wave. That is not to be taken as "all dead characters will have their death ignored". It's to be taken as "we will exert our narrator perogative if we feel it's necessary."

This seems perfectly logical to me, and really, why wouldn't they approach it that way?

[Saibh]

Morroian wrote...

outlaw1109 wrote...

In any case, what Gaider said before about reviving the fallen -even though we were warned in origins- they have already told us about. I fought Flemeth. I killed that massive dragon she became and now I'm quite irked that she lives.

Why? It was heavily implied in DAO that she wasn't really dead.

Implied? It was outright said she wasn't dead. Morrigan tells you as much. The Codex was only a tiny, tiny, tiny bit more ambiguous.

[mellifera]

Ortaya Alevli wrote...

Upsettingshorts wrote...

Confirmed: Drunk Alistair has a messy, unkempt beard.

You know this is just the opportunity for us to come up with the Warden being resurrected by the Tevinter/Disciples/whatnot again.

A clandestine group of Tevinter blood mages that goes by the name Orthrus...

Modifié par yukidama, 23 novembre 2010 - 02:08 .

[Clover Rider]

 This guy will be back  .

[outlaw1109]

Saibh wrote...

Morroian wrote...

outlaw1109 wrote...

In any case, what Gaider said before about reviving the fallen -even though we were warned in origins- they have already told us about. I fought Flemeth. I killed that massive dragon she became and now I'm quite irked that she lives.

Why? It was heavily implied in DAO that she wasn't really dead.

Implied? It was outright said she wasn't dead. Morrigan tells you as much. The Codex was only a tiny, tiny, tiny bit more ambiguous.

edit:  for some reason this didn't make my original response, so...

I knew she wasn't dead, but I had assumed her defeat was one that had eliminated her from the game since I have played through a few times and have yet to encounter her after her defeat.

Some Geth wrote...

 This guy will be back  .

Which guy?  Oghren or the guy touching his junk?

Modifié par outlaw1109, 23 novembre 2010 - 02:18 .

[Bryy_Miller]

Saibh wrote...

Morroian wrote...

outlaw1109 wrote...

In any case, what Gaider said before about reviving the fallen -even though we were warned in origins- they have already told us about. I fought Flemeth. I killed that massive dragon she became and now I'm quite irked that she lives.

Why? It was heavily implied in DAO that she wasn't really dead.

Implied? It was outright said she wasn't dead. Morrigan tells you as much. The Codex was only a tiny, tiny, tiny bit more ambiguous.

Not to mention that the beginning of the story takes place before you killed her in Origins.

[Clover Rider]

outlaw1109 wrote...

Saibh wrote...

Morroian wrote...

outlaw1109 wrote...

In any case, what Gaider said before about reviving the fallen -even though we were warned in origins- they have already told us about. I fought Flemeth. I killed that massive dragon she became and now I'm quite irked that she lives.

Why? It was heavily implied in DAO that she wasn't really dead.

Implied? It was outright said she wasn't dead. Morrigan tells you as much. The Codex was only a tiny, tiny, tiny bit more ambiguous.

edit:  for some reason this didn't make my original response, so...

I knew she wasn't dead, but I had assumed her defeat was one that had eliminated her from the game since I have played through a few times and have yet to encounter her after her defeat.

Some Geth wrote...

 This guy will be back  .

Which guy?  Oghren or the guy touching his junk?

Both.

[Ortaya Alevli]

yukidama wrote...

Ortaya Alevli wrote...

Upsettingshorts wrote...

Confirmed: Drunk Alistair has a messy, unkempt beard.

You know this is just the opportunity for us to come up with the Warden being resurrected by the Tevinter/Disciples/whatnot again.

A clandestine group of Tevinter blood mages that goes by the name Orthrus...

The Illusive Man is quite interested in what you did there.

[BP20125810]

David Gaider wrote...

outlaw1109 wrote...
The problem with that would be, of course, if they keep it canon with your playthrough. I really hope so...

We do have situations in DA2 where someone being dead in DAO means you simply won't see them again, period. We also have situations where a living character from DAO has a different appearance based on how they ended up.

All I'm saying is that someone who is dead might be alive, if we feel it's worthy and have an explanation-- even if that explanation is a hand-wave. That is not to be taken as "all dead characters will have their death ignored". It's to be taken as "we will exert our narrator perogative if we feel it's necessary."

Oh, like Allistair may have escaped his execution.

[Bryy_Miller]

BP20125810 wrote...

David Gaider wrote...

outlaw1109 wrote...
The problem with that would be, of course, if they keep it canon with your playthrough. I really hope so...

We do have situations in DA2 where someone being dead in DAO means you simply won't see them again, period. We also have situations where a living character from DAO has a different appearance based on how they ended up.

All I'm saying is that someone who is dead might be alive, if we feel it's worthy and have an explanation-- even if that explanation is a hand-wave. That is not to be taken as "all dead characters will have their death ignored". It's to be taken as "we will exert our narrator perogative if we feel it's necessary."

Oh, like Allistair may have escaped his execution.

That both intrigues me and puts me off.

[Leonia]

I'm sure he'd have fun with a Duncan-esque beard though, even if my character's first reaction would be "Ok, the beard, has to go, no clean yourself up mister!"

[mellifera]

Ortaya Alevli wrote...

yukidama wrote...

Ortaya Alevli wrote...

Upsettingshorts wrote...

Confirmed: Drunk Alistair has a messy, unkempt beard.

You know this is just the opportunity for us to come up with the Warden being resurrected by the Tevinter/Disciples/whatnot again.

A clandestine group of Tevinter blood mages that goes by the name Orthrus...

The Illusive Man is quite interested in what you did there.

[Eveangaline]

filaminstrel wrote...

Ymladdych wrote...

spell trigger wrote...
Well, "Feign Death" talent can be used as an explanation for Zevran or Leliana's "death" in DAO.

Wow...that's good thinking.  Tricky without being too cheap.  (Of course, they'd have to introduce a "test for real death" dynamic after playing that card on the players.)

Heh, but it's kind of strange if you happened to do a deathblow decapitation on them, unless they're really good at feigning death.

I"ve already had this happen, I did a decapitation on the First in awakening, and then when the fight ended he was still able to talk and beg for his life. Very funny to watch.

[TJPags]

Wait - haven't the devs been touting the fact that DA2 is going to import our choices from DAO?

And now, someone who is dead - which I think should be flagged somewhere, no? - might come back to life if the devs think there's a good enough reason?

Really?

[Eveangaline]

I just want Wade and Herren to come back.

Mainly because I love them (and want more of Wades smith results THE CROWS STOLE MY DANG SWORD)

Modifié par Eveangaline, 23 novembre 2010 - 03:27 .