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ElvaliaRavenHart wrote...

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She leads an expedition, she most definitely does not go alone.

Edit; of course you can rp it however you want, but there is no indication at all that Alistair and Leliana head off there together.  that would cause some awful gossip.

even the political marriage slide takes into account that the warden may have a paramour (Alistair allowed her a great deal of leeway to act however she wished).  


I've never done the political marriage ending before.  I'll have to try this.  Something new to do! Image IPB   So the trick is to talk with Zevran instead of Alistair. 

Yes, Leliana leads an expedition.  Still could mean Alistair went with her, nothing saying that he didn't. 

Hmmm, Alistair seems to have been busy, Zevran knew too, when he smarts off to Alistair that he should repent of his own sins!  LOL!   What I mean is that the odd dialogue with Wynne in RTO, Morrigan (DR),  Leliana, and of course any female warden.  Yes, it appears that Alistair is indeed a bad, bad, man.  Oh, let's not forget Isabela at the pearl!  Image IPB 

If I do the political marriage, then I'm running away with Anders, since Zevran left too! Image IPB


You'll also, for this game, most likely get the love letter from Zevran if you play Awakening, but you'll get the queen epilogue.  Happens with political marriages too (both Alistair and Anora).

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ejoslin wrote...

ElvaliaRavenHart wrote...

ejoslin wrote...

She leads an expedition, she most definitely does not go alone.

Edit; of course you can rp it however you want, but there is no indication at all that Alistair and Leliana head off there together.  that would cause some awful gossip.

even the political marriage slide takes into account that the warden may have a paramour (Alistair allowed her a great deal of leeway to act however she wished).  


I've never done the political marriage ending before.  I'll have to try this.  Something new to do! Image IPB   So the trick is to talk with Zevran instead of Alistair. 

Yes, Leliana leads an expedition.  Still could mean Alistair went with her, nothing saying that he didn't. 

Hmmm, Alistair seems to have been busy, Zevran knew too, when he smarts off to Alistair that he should repent of his own sins!  LOL!   What I mean is that the odd dialogue with Wynne in RTO, Morrigan (DR),  Leliana, and of course any female warden.  Yes, it appears that Alistair is indeed a bad, bad, man.  Oh, let's not forget Isabela at the pearl!  Image IPB 

If I do the political marriage, then I'm running away with Anders, since Zevran left too! Image IPB


You'll also, for this game, most likely get the love letter from Zevran if you play Awakening, but you'll get the queen epilogue.  Happens with political marriages too (both Alistair and Anora).



This is what I was going for was the love letter from Alistair or is there only love letters from Leliana and Zevran?   With Zevran I was trying to keep my options open!  Image IPB

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There's no love letter from Alistair, but there is a cameo of King Alistair (people who ended up with gray warden Alistair are SoL).

I like the romances as they are written, to be honest. Zevran's romance without his declaration of feelings just is... not complete. He changes so much, from wanting just some fun and either flirtation or FWB with someone he actually ends up caring a lot for even before he falls in love to not being able to make love to the warden without a full commitment of the future.

Modifié par ejoslin, 22 novembre 2010 - 06:00 .


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I romanced Zevran once, but it's been so long ago, I forgot how to do it.

Ah, so no letter from Alistair just a visit.  Image IPB

Modifié par ElvaliaRavenHart, 22 novembre 2010 - 06:13 .


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I'd actually be more interested to see what happens if you manage to end the game still in a romance with three party members (Leliana, Zevran and Alistair for females, Morrigan, leliana, and Zevran for males). Doing their personal quests and all, before you hit the adore/love limit.



Now that would be a pretty bizarre ending.

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Skadi_the_Evil_Elf wrote...

I'd actually be more interested to see what happens if you manage to end the game still in a romance with three party members (Leliana, Zevran and Alistair for females, Morrigan, leliana, and Zevran for males). Doing their personal quests and all, before you hit the adore/love limit.

Now that would be a pretty bizarre ending.


Nothing spectacular.  if none of them are in love, you won't get the "in love" slide.  You'll miss dialog that they dont' give until they're in love.  Morrigan/Zevran are the only two you will be able to have sex with, and Zevran not that many times if you want to keep him below adore.  With morrigan you won't get the ring ending, just the standard one everyone gets.

Zevran may leave the fight with Taliesen in that instance (only one dialog if romanced but below adore will have him stay and fight).  ummmm, you will get the 'romance active' endings for all of them post-coronation, which are slightly different in the case of both Alistair and Zevran.  though, thinking about it, with Zevran, if you dont' pick a particular answer post- coronation (only if you're going/staying with me) you'll just get his romance active response even if he's in love.  

Edit; if you mean in a rp sense, I bet you'll have at least one FB, one person who hates that, and one person who is oblivious but enjoys having you around.

Modifié par ejoslin, 22 novembre 2010 - 07:09 .


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Oh, I don't care about the love lialogues, I already know what they are about, been there, done that, seen em all except Morrigan.



I'm more interested in the Landsmeet convos and the epilogue slides having three LI's active at once.

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Skadi_the_Evil_Elf wrote...

Oh, I don't care about the love lialogues, I already know what they are about, been there, done that, seen em all except Morrigan.

I'm more interested in the Landsmeet convos and the epilogue slides having three LI's active at once.


I was wondering the same thing, romancing all three of them and what the slides show.  Hmmm, might have to try this too. Image IPB

What we need is a mod to make our own slides up! Image IPB

Modifié par ElvaliaRavenHart, 22 novembre 2010 - 07:21 .


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The slides show nothing interesting if you're not in love. It's an easy thing to change the slides, however.

Edit; in fact, tell me what you want your slides to say, and what conditions you want on them, and i'll make it happen because i'm magical that way!  well, within reason.

Modifié par ejoslin, 22 novembre 2010 - 08:32 .


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Skadi_the_Evil_Elf wrote...

I'd actually be more interested to see what happens if you manage to end the game still in a romance with three party members (Leliana, Zevran and Alistair for females, Morrigan, leliana, and Zevran for males). Doing their personal quests and all, before you hit the adore/love limit.

Now that would be a pretty bizarre ending.


My boy, Roland Cousland, romanced Morrigan and Leliana, broke off with Morrigan, finished with Leliana but restarted the Morrigan romance in an odd scene following the Fort Drakon fiasco where Morrigan mentioned she could find him using the ring (Somehow that reset the flag, much to my surprise). 
When he did the DR he got all the stupid friend lines instead of the "in love" lines BUT her line right before the cutscene WAS different from her 'in friend' line I had gotten on an earlier playthrough.  Plus when it came time for the departure at the gates, he got the 'in love' kiss from both her and Leliana.
When I finished I got a slide for Leliana in love, and I got the Morrigan "in love" slide as well (Something about feeling her regret/sorrow through the ring). 
Also during that playthrough I got the foursome with Leliana and Zevran AND had a bug that let Roland romance Alistair at well, briefly, due to modding misadventures.Image IPB  Roland was a playa!  And yea it was a weird game.  He is my only PC who managed to at least "tag" all four LI's.

Modifié par sylvanaerie, 22 novembre 2010 - 10:59 .


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sylvanaerie wrote...

Skadi_the_Evil_Elf wrote...

I'd actually be more interested to see what happens if you manage to end the game still in a romance with three party members (Leliana, Zevran and Alistair for females, Morrigan, leliana, and Zevran for males). Doing their personal quests and all, before you hit the adore/love limit.

Now that would be a pretty bizarre ending.


My boy, Roland Cousland, romanced Morrigan and Leliana, broke off with Morrigan, finished with Leliana but restarted the Morrigan romance in an odd scene following the Fort Drakon fiasco where Morrigan mentioned she could find him using the ring (Somehow that reset the flag, much to my surprise). 
When he did the DR he got all the stupid friend lines instead of the "in love" lines BUT her line right before the cutscene WAS different from her 'in friend' line I had gotten on an earlier playthrough.  Plus when it came time for the departure at the gates, he got the 'in love' kiss from both her and Leliana.
When I finished I got a slide for Leliana in love, and I got the Morrigan "in love" slide as well (Something about feeling her regret/sorrow through the ring). 
Also during that playthrough I got the foursome with Leliana and Zevran AND had a bug that let Roland romance Alistair at well, briefly, due to modding misadventures.Image IPB  Roland was a playa!  And yea it was a weird game.  He is my only PC who managed to at least "tag" all four LI's.

 

Hahaha, far out! That's what I was looking for pretty much. Proof that mods make the game much more fun, even when they break!

Am thinking, that after I finish the my canon playthroughs, I will install polygamey and Anyone Can Marry Alistair mods, then play through as a male dwarf noble....just think of the post landsmeet convo where Alistair talks about not being able to have babies with your Warden...:o:wizard:

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ejoslin wrote...

She leads an expedition, she most definitely does not go alone.

Edit; of course you can rp it however you want, but there is no indication at all that Alistair and Leliana head off there together.  that would cause some awful gossip.

even the political marriage slide takes into account that the warden may have a paramour (Alistair allowed her a great deal of leeway to act however she wished).  


You know, this ending with Leliana bugs me.  Seems that she is headed for Amaranthine to follow the warden in killing the broodmothers there.  Hmmm, kinda puts in my mind that she may have been behind the assassination attempt on the warden's life.  No proof I know, just rpging it this way with Leliana hardened.  Why send Leliana when she isn't a warden is what is bothering me, given what can happen with females in the deep roads, ala new broodmother!   Branka had a whole house to protect her and it still didn't work, two of her companions became broodmothers.  I find it weird.

I did go back in and have the convo with Alistair setting Zevran back to 100% friendly.  I told Alistair at the end that I was leaving Denerim and he opted to go with me.  I was like huh?  I don't want you to go with me!  LOL!  I've already told Anders that I'm off for more adventure when I get done with Awakenings instead of returning as Alistair's mistress, I'm taking off.  Don't tell me the slide and how this changes I don't want to know this one!  LOL!

Modifié par ElvaliaRavenHart, 26 novembre 2010 - 05:25 .


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Merilsell wrote...

Addai67 wrote...

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Are you sure they went together? I've seen the hardened Leli slide and she does indeed work with Alistair to learn about the deep roads and the broodmothers and she braves the deep roads but thats about it.

That's pretty badass, actually.  Good for her.

just complimented Leliana, let the record note!


:o

Are you feeling well, Addai? No signs of fever or anything else? :P

Anyway methinks Leliana going into the DR is the most stupid idea, she ever had. What if she gets captured and "Hespith-fied?"

Oh well, I'm sure one of my Warden are looking forward to kill Leli-broodmother. :ph34r:


Exactly, this doesn't make any sense.  Her looking for broodmothers??????  The same thing that the warden is doing in Amaranthine in Awakenings.   I can see Alistair sending her to do research in the chantry and the circle tower, not in the deep roads themselves.

Modifié par ElvaliaRavenHart, 26 novembre 2010 - 05:32 .


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A lot of the Origin epilogues were discarded for Awakening. Zevran, as friend or as lover, wants to stay with the gray warden and says the crows can "bring it on!" To the warden he loves, he says, "You caught me, now you're stuck with me. Sad, but we'll manage." The in-love epilogue card further reinforces this.



yet, in awakening, he's in Antiva. I choose to ignore Awakening :)

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@ ejoslin



I'm going to have to play around with Zevran more to see what happens. I've only romanced him once and I married Alistair to Anora during that playthrough. I was thinking of doing a game with no romance at all. Just making everyone 100% friendly.

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I honestly would have really liked to see Alistair and Leliana get together.

If you read the codex in Darkspawn Chronicles Leliana and Alistair DO get together as lovers. But nothing really happens because they both die in that DLC anyways.

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The Water God wrote...

Bann Duncan wrote...

I honestly would have really liked to see Alistair and Leliana get together.

If you read the codex in Darkspawn Chronicles Leliana and Alistair DO get together as lovers. But nothing really happens because they both die in that DLC anyways.


I knew this happened in the DC dlc.  I'm wasn't fully certain how much that lore followed through during the DAO game.  So Alistair might have known Leliana all along before all of them hooked up in Lothering.   Hmmm, interesting.

How is it that Alistair will run away with a PC that is his mistress, but not his Queen?  Hmmm, interesting, especially when a player gets the slide at the end that Alistair did love his queen if she was in love with him and it wasn't a polictial marriage.  Hmmm, interesting.    The King and Queen do not disappear together, but a pc that is his mistress does get to disappear with him.  

Only a couple of ways to rgp this ending with the king and queen.  You as the queen disappear and Alistair leaves to hunt for you or he was killed or taken prisoner by the Bannorn.  He ran away with Leliana.  He went to find Morrigan if he did the DR on your behalf.  He went to the Free Marches to fight with the Templars and never came back.  Hmmm interesting.  Any one have any more theories?

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My theory: It's your punishment for tying the knot.



Like my mom used to say: marriage is the best way to ruin a perfectly good relationship. >:D

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LOL, I've heard that as well.