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[Thandal N'Lyman]

gneebore wrote...

... There is no way any fourth level character should have been in that sort of combat to begin with.  Especially when the opponent can do that much damaged in one blow.

And yet, literally millions of other fourth-level players faced that same situation, succeeded, and went on to enjoy the "RPG of the YEAR".  Seems like trolls are not only belligerent, but plank-thick as well, since several offers of help have been ignored.

[gneebore]

Daewan wrote...


I'm sorry, what?  Are we talking about the same game?
How did you get to the Tower at 4th level?  Did you just skip every single combat and sidequest in the Kocari Wilds and the Origin story?

Nope went in and did the combats in the arls mansion made it to second level there.  Then went to the Kocari Wilds and made it to fourth level.  Collected all three vials of darkspawn blood and found the empty chest and the "witches".  Cut scene put me back at the entrance to find Duncan.  Even completed the side quest of finding the flower for the kennel master.  Then was assigned to light the tower almost immediatley.  The one side quest not completed in the wilds was following the directions found in the will.

[gneebore]

Thandal NLyman wrote...

And yet, literally millions of other fourth-level players faced that same situation, succeeded, and went on to enjoy the "RPG of the YEAR".  Seems like trolls are not only belligerent, but plank-thick as well, since several offers of help have been ignored.

Too bad but you assumed that I wanted help.  I was already fed up with the game.  Frankly like I stated earlier I thought since this is a Bioware website that it was where one could leave feedback about their product.  I have already stated that if this thread had not been started recently I would have started one on my own.  Or are you that thickheaded to have missed that point?  You do know that when you click on the link to leave feedback in the game options this is where your webbrowser opens up right?  Or did that pass you by too?

[Loerwyn]

gneebore wrote...
Nope went in and did the combats in the arls mansion made it to second level there.  Then went to the Kocari Wilds and made it to fourth level.  Collected all three vials of darkspawn blood and found the empty chest and the "witches".  Cut scene put me back at the entrance to find Duncan.  Even completed the side quest of finding the flower for the kennel master.  Then was assigned to light the tower almost immediatley.  The one side quest not completed in the wilds was following the directions found in the will.

When you arrive in Ostagar, no matter your combination, you hit level 4 before you even venture into the Kocari Wilds.

[gneebore]

OnlyShallow89 wrote...

Maybe if you played the game properly, you wouldn't have those issues. You made them for yourself, either by sheer incompetence or honest mistakes (I highly doubt the latter). If the staff hasn't been unequipped, check the other weapon set. If your characters are moving when you don't want them to, "lock" them into position.
The control scheme is not hard. You can use the mouse to do everything, and the keyboard is not needed. But, at the same time, the game can be made much more "responsive" by using the keyboard at the same time. I found it perfectly fine with WASD controls and my attacks (Not my sustainables) bound to the 1-10 numbers (As I'd use them in an MMO). That, to me, is the most natural control method for this game. If that doesn't suit you, you can use the mouse to activate attacks.
If you're not trolling, then you have fundamental issues with gaming, and not with Dragon Age: Origins. Can the game be hard, even on easy? Yes, it can. But if you're falling so quickly on these fights then there's something wrong on your end, and it is not the fault of the game. You say you've edited X, Y and Z in the toolset yet still fallen in that fight - Again, further reinforcing that the game is not at fault - It's you. Thousands, perhaps millions, of characters have gotten past that fight with no real issue, ranging from experienced players to novices, and from first timers to RPG veterans. They've all done it without cheating and without being a big cry baby about it.
If you don't like the game, that is fine, but do not come into a topic where someone is asking about the game and decry it as terrible because your own incompetence has stopped you progressing past a certain fight.
And, truth be told, I don't think you've struggled with the game. I honestly think you're exaggerating the situation to garner responses and to fuel your own ego. So stop derailing this thread and making it about your issues, because it's not about you. The OP wants honest advice about the game, and you're being dishonest about it.

I played the game exactly how the turorials showed me.  I got to the ogre combat as a fourth level right?  Or did you miss that particular point?  To me that means I was doing what I was supposed to do according to the game play and controls!  And if the mage was fighting with fists instead of the staff then there certainly can not have been any secondary weapons set right?  Like oh maybe the darkspawn staff from one of the darkspawn magic users in the wilds had as loot.

In all the years on gaming I have never had this sort of problem with any game. Period.  That is going all the way back to C-64 days and using a joystick for combat control.  To you it is incompetence on my part.  To me it is a needlessly complicated control system.  I've played many other games like this.  Fable and Fallout 3 to name two.  Even the demo for Fallou Las Vegas.   Plus a few other FPS that were not as difficult to master.  Doom, Duke Nukem, were the early ones to be sure  but I have also played Call of Duty on a console at a relatives house.

On to something else.  The op was asking for opinions good and bad.  Or are you to thick to understand that.  Later in the thread the OP also stated there were mixed reviews on the internet.  That had been posted by the op not just my opinion.  He asked for opinions.  If I had come on here and said the game suck lemons and left it at that then I would be trolling.  I gave my reason for dislike of the game.  A very specific part of the game.  Now where weas I being disingenuous about the game?

[gneebore]

OnlyShallow89 wrote...

gneebore wrote...
Nope went in and did the combats in the arls mansion made it to second level there.  Then went to the Kocari Wilds and made it to fourth level.  Collected all three vials of darkspawn blood and found the empty chest and the "witches".  Cut scene put me back at the entrance to find Duncan.  Even completed the side quest of finding the flower for the kennel master.  Then was assigned to light the tower almost immediatley.  The one side quest not completed in the wilds was following the directions found in the will.

When you arrive in Ostagar, no matter your combination, you hit level 4 before you even venture into the Kocari Wilds.

Sorry but you do not in all games.  I leveled up to fourth when meeting Duncan after finding Alstair. So yes I was a fourth level before going into the wilds

Modifié par gneebore, 22 novembre 2010 - 10:41 .

[Madame November]

The game is fantastic and very easy to play. The ogre was a complete sweetheart. I had him over for tea before I set him on fire.

Also, this thread has derailed into something vastly amusing. Mostly thanks to the "princess" of rpg's.

Modifié par November Cousland, 23 novembre 2010 - 05:18 .

[Madame November]

double post<_<

Modifié par November Cousland, 22 novembre 2010 - 10:45 .

[gneebore]

Catspaw wrote...


My friend had the same problem. She gave up and went on to play some other online games. She's now about to start again after seeing how much I've enjoyed it. I found the forum to be very helpful along with some YouTube playthroughs posted by more experienced players. It gave me additional information on what to do to get past the first ogre. It has gotten easier as I've gotten farther along the left side of the learning curve. I'm almost finished with my first playthrough on easy and will probably move up to Normal on my next character.

I don't doubt the forum was helpful when asking for help.  There are a whole bunch of gaming forums to ask questions.  Which is probably where I found the link to download the toolset and the instructions to use it for simple game edits. I doubt I will ever reinstall the game.  I have a bunch of nephews that might enjoy it.  So someone gets a stocking stuffer for Christmas. 

[Nimpe]

gneebore wrote...

Catspaw wrote...


My friend had the same problem. She gave up and went on to play some other online games. She's now about to start again after seeing how much I've enjoyed it. I found the forum to be very helpful along with some YouTube playthroughs posted by more experienced players. It gave me additional information on what to do to get past the first ogre. It has gotten easier as I've gotten farther along the left side of the learning curve. I'm almost finished with my first playthrough on easy and will probably move up to Normal on my next character.

I don't doubt the forum was helpful when asking for help.  There are a whole bunch of gaming forums to ask questions.  Which is probably where I found the link to download the toolset and the instructions to use it for simple game edits. I doubt I will ever reinstall the game.  I have a bunch of nephews that might enjoy it.  So someone gets a stocking stuffer for Christmas. 

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Look, I've played this game in and out, and that ogre does not 1 hit kill anyone. I literally faced him naked with no clothes on or weps and beat him on easy mode. Mages will not switch to bare fists, nor will somebody with knives favor their fists, there is no way in the tactics for them to do that. Even if you just spam the attack button, you should kill him. Theres no way you can be level 4 unless you literally in every map put the party on hold, activated stealth, and just did the needed combat.

I'm sure you're nepfews can figure out this game better than you can.

EDIT:wow, the troll sucked me in

Modifié par Nimpe, 22 novembre 2010 - 11:25 .

[Saerwen]

@Jonny110~ I am just going to answer your question! I have this on pc, and I really enjoy the heck outta it. It is one of the few games that has caught and held my interest for any real length of time. The story is amazing, the characters catch you and draw you in.



While yes it does have some flaws, all games do. There is a learning curve, it was worth it to me to stick it out and I am so glad that I did.

[gneebore]

Nimpe wrote...

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Look, I've played this game in and out, and that ogre does not 1 hit kill anyone. I literally faced him naked with no clothes on or weps and beat him on easy mode. Mages will not switch to bare fists, nor will somebody with knives favor their fists, there is no way in the tactics for them to do that. Even if you just spam the attack button, you should kill him. Theres no way you can be level 4 unless you literally in every map put the party on hold, activated stealth, and just did the needed combat.

I'm sure you're nepfews can figure out this game better than you can.

EDIT:wow, the troll sucked me in

Too bad .  The ogre did do a one hit kill.  And you also have failed in reading the other posts.  Seems that there are, according to a few others that disagree with me,  litterally millions of players with fourth level characters that get into the fight with the ogre.  Go back and reread the thread especially the very first post on this page.. 


As for the naked no clothes on and no weapons.  What sort of console cheating were you doing to do that?   Sorry does not even come close to real game play.  Even as little as I have played the game your boast about how easily you defeat the ogre is plain idiocy or you were cheating.

Modifié par gneebore, 23 novembre 2010 - 12:19 .

[Nimpe]

gneebore wrote...

Nimpe wrote...

[YOU'RE WRONG! 
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Look, I've played this game in and out, and that ogre does not 1 hit kill anyone. I literally faced him naked with no clothes on or weps and beat him on easy mode. Mages will not switch to bare fists, nor will somebody with knives favor their fists, there is no way in the tactics for them to do that. Even if you just spam the attack button, you should kill him. Theres no way you can be level 4 unless you literally in every map put the party on hold, activated stealth, and just did the needed combat.

I'm sure you're nepfews can figure out this game better than you can.

EDIT:wow, the troll sucked me in

Too bad .  The ogre did do a one hit kill.  And you also have failed in reading the other posts.  Seems that there are, according to a few others that disagree with me,  litterally millions of players with fourth level characters that get into the fight with the ogre.  Go back and reread the thread especially the very first post on this page.. 


As for the naked no clothes on and no weapons.  What sort of console cheating were you doing to do that?   Sorry does not even come close to real game play.  Even as little as I have played the game your boast about how easily you defeat the ogre is plain idiocy or you were cheating.

I had no cheats, I am on the ps3 version, I could upload a video of me making a new charater up to there and fighting him naked, but the only recorder i have is a low quality built in one in my laptop, it'll be low qualitied, and shaky. If you REALLY want to see it, I'll start a new charater tomorrow.

Oh, and I'll try to not do excessive combat to see what level I'm at. I might be wrong at the level 4 thing. I'll even do it in a city elf backround.

Modifié par Nimpe, 23 novembre 2010 - 02:29 .

[gneebore]

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I had no cheats, I am on the ps3 version, I could upload a video of me making a new charater up to there and fighting him naked, but the only recorder i have is a low quality built in one in my laptop, it'll be low qualitied, and shaky if you REALLY want to see it, I'll start a new charater tomorrow.
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Nope I really don't care to see it.  Apparently the console version of the game is a whole different ball game.  And is actually much easier than the pc version because there are simpler combat commands,   And with console game versions party members actually do follow the tactics screen commands.  Unlike the fighter using fists instead of sword or knife.  And in a similar way the same for the mage.

I also suspect in the console versions of the game the characters level up at a faster rate than do the pc characters.

Modifié par gneebore, 23 novembre 2010 - 02:52 .

[Saerwen]

Really? Seriously? Ok, you had a hard time... the individual who posted originally just wants a question answered, which a quite a few posts up you did answer. Maybe this argument could be moved somewhere else? Make your own flame Dragon Age Thread perhaps?

[Thandal N'Lyman]

gneebore wrote...
...  Apparently the console version of the game is a whole different ball game.  And is actually much easier than the pc version because there are simpler combat commands,   And with console game versions party members actually do follow the tactics screen commands.  Unlike the fighter using fists instead of sword or knife.  And in a similar way the same for the mage.

I also suspect in the console versions of the game the characters level up at a faster rate than do the pc characters.

Ummmmm, that would be No, No, and, (you guessed it) No.

The console version is NOT a "whole different ball game."  But it is in fact, for most players, harder  than the PC version because the combat action can't be paused.

In ALL  versions the non-controlled characters (including the PC) follow the AI Tactics.  Maybe you're switching to one (at which point you have put that one's AI on hold) and then to another and another, so that you keep interrupting the AI...  (And "attacking with empty fists" just means you haven't equipped the character(s) appropriately, one way or another.)

And lastly, the console version does not level up any faster.

In other words... While we're sorry you can't seem to make the game enjoyable for you, your complaints are in no way the norm, and represent difficulties that others do not experience or have easily overcome.

Modifié par Thandal NLyman, 23 novembre 2010 - 04:33 .

[mousestalker]

gneebore wrote...

Thandal NLyman wrote...

And yet, literally millions of other fourth-level players faced that same situation, succeeded, and went on to enjoy the "RPG of the YEAR".  Seems like trolls are not only belligerent, but plank-thick as well, since several offers of help have been ignored.

Too bad but you assumed that I wanted help.  I was already fed up with the game.  Frankly like I stated earlier I thought since this is a Bioware website that it was where one could leave feedback about their product.  I have already stated that if this thread had not been started recently I would have started one on my own.  Or are you that thickheaded to have missed that point?  You do know that when you click on the link to leave feedback in the game options this is where your webbrowser opens up right?  Or did that pass you by too?

So QQ already.

Cut your losses and move on.

[Nimpe]

gneebore wrote...

Nimpe wrote...


I had no cheats, I am on the ps3 version, I could upload a video of me making a new charater up to there and fighting him naked, but the only recorder i have is a low quality built in one in my laptop, it'll be low qualitied, and shaky if you REALLY want to see it, I'll start a new charater tomorrow.

Nope I really don't care to see it.  Apparently the console version of the game is a whole different ball game.  And is actually much easier than the pc version because there are simpler combat commands,   And with console game versions party members actually do follow the tactics screen commands.  Unlike the fighter using fists instead of sword or knife.  And in a similar way the same for the mage.

I also suspect in the console versions of the game the characters level up at a faster rate than do the pc characters.

Good, the troll/technologically inclined person doesn't want to be proven wrong. Thanks buddy, you saved me a few hours.
Oh, and looking at my charater history, it seems it's possible to be at level 4 at that level, leveing to 5 after you kill it. But you didnt do all your quests if it turns out like this. My charaters where I did everything were level 6 by then. So you were right about that.

Modifié par Nimpe, 23 novembre 2010 - 07:49 .

[roundcrow]

I struggled a bit with the game at first but that was just getting used to the game mechanics (on PS3). I now do things like post on these forums. QED, this is a fantastic game, and I don't think you'll regret buying it if you like other Bioware products.

[Phoenix_Jackson]

I'm new to Bioware. When I heard about DA, I just assumed it was another WoW thing (this time, ignorance is not bliss). I heard then that it has expansions and DLCs and I went, "Hrmph!". Then I got bored with my life and thought, "Fine, let me at 'em Dragon Age!" Boy, do I regret ignoring this game for a long time.

The only good thing that I'm new at this point in time is that "Ultimate" is out there. Meaning, I don't have to be tortured and wait as the earlier players have. Also, there are more "experts" around now. So there are less questions left unanswered.



By all means, buy this game! The community is friendly (only trolls are mean). The Origins whole package is complete (no more further DLCs). And I get to understand what the heck the people in here are saying.



Speaking of Ultimate, The only version here in my country (that I find available online) is the PS3 version. I love my PSs but I really want this game on PC.

[Thandal N'Lyman]

Phoenix_Jackson wrote...
... Speaking of Ultimate, The only version here in my country (that I find available online) is the PS3 version. I love my PSs but I really want this game on PC.

TheWaterGod may say "You don't know BioWare until you know Dragon Age."
 But I say, "You don't know Dragon Age  until you know it on a PC!"  

My ~/override folder is currently at 2.65 GB, and that doesn't include the ".dazips" in the ~/addins folder. There are just so many excellent mods for DA  that it's hard to stop.  A problem console players will never have...  Their loss!  

@Phoenix_Jackson;  What country?  Have you considered D2D, or other downloadable versions?
 

Modifié par Thandal NLyman, 24 novembre 2010 - 04:51 .

[Phoenix_Jackson]

South Korea. I believe it's out there somewhere if I look hard enough. I'm just too lazy to go out and physically check them out on stores. And I do prefer the physical CD. I have a habit of changing my PCs whenever I'm in the mood.



And yes! The mods are just... YUM!

[wissmongler]

on of the more better rpg out there so yeah