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[Cottonfrog]

I haven't read all your replies in this forum but I sense that many of you really enjoy Dragon Age: Origins.



So according to the title of this thread, I'm also wondering: Should I buy Dragon Age?



I didn't like Fallout 3 because it took so long for me to find crap to sell to get money and needed ammo all the time. But I guess I won't be in need of ammo in Dragon Age.

Also enjoy the Mass Effect series a lot! One of the greatest franchises of all time according to me!

So what do you people who have played Dragon Age think? Should I buy it or stay away from it?

[Eleinehmm]

The question is , Do you like old school (more or less) story-driven RPGs like BG2 ? - If the answer is yes, than I can recommend DAO

Modifié par Eleinehmm, 24 novembre 2010 - 10:43 .

[Zenon]

One big difference between Fallout 3, Mass Effect on the one side and Dragon Age on the other side is, that Dragon Age has more tactical battle with melee weapons. The Story is great, I love the characters and the "moral" decisions are even a bit more tricky than in Mass Effect. I'd definitely recommend DA:O to all RPG fans.



And I'd recommend you get the Ultimate Edition with all Expansions and DLC included for the PC, because once you get hooked up, you might not want to stop at the vanilla campaign. The PC version has the great asset of the fully featured toolset, which enables you to create own content, and more importantly enjoy community content, which you can't play on console versions. Besides the PC has better graphcis and controls, if you ask me...

[Zenon]

I need to add: For being able to actively use the toolset on the PC, you need to download it (unless it is also included in the Ultimate Edition). But you can use community content without having downloaded the toolset itself.

[Cottonfrog]

Eleinehmm: Well I haven't played BG 2 so I don't know if I like it... But I really like Fable (1-3), Mass Effect (both!) and Assassin's Creed (mostly the second) but I guess they're not exactly like Dragon Age so I don't know if that even matters...
But to answer your question, yes, at least I think so.
Thanks for the help!

Zenon: Okay, then I'll think I'll like it a lot!
Yes, if I get Dragon Age then I'll get the Ultimate Edition for sure! But I don't have a PC (if I had, I don't know if I would play games on it anyway... Maybe some, maybe I would get Dragon Age on PC if so) but I play Xbox 360 so I'll get Dragon Age for it instead.

[roundcrow]

You know, I'm fairly certain the OP created this thread in order to troll him/herself.



I mean, really. What answer do you think you're going to get from the sodding Bioware Dragon Age Forums? "No, it's a total waste of your time, don't bother."?

[Loerwyn]

roundcrow wrote...

You know, I'm fairly certain the OP created this thread in order to troll him/herself.

I mean, really. What answer do you think you're going to get from the sodding Bioware Dragon Age Forums? "No, it's a total waste of your time, don't bother."?

Or perhaps he wanted to go to a forum where people who play the game go so he can get a good opinion on it?

Not everyone here is blinded with BioLol fanboyism, you know.

[Cottonfrog]

OnlyShallow89 wrote...

roundcrow wrote...

You know, I'm fairly certain the OP created this thread in order to troll him/herself.

I mean, really. What answer do you think you're going to get from the sodding Bioware Dragon Age Forums? "No, it's a total waste of your time, don't bother."?

Or perhaps he wanted to go to a forum where people who play the game go so he can get a good opinion on it?

Not everyone here is blinded with BioLol fanboyism, you know.

Yes, I don't go to a forum just for fun and ask a lot of questions I won't get answered.
Of course I visit the Dragon Age forum, thread "Should I buy Dragon Age?" to ask the question: Should I buy Dragon Age?
And I've got some response to it too, good response that is (except from roundcrow, sorry but your comment were just anoying).

Modifié par Cottonfrog, 25 novembre 2010 - 07:44 .

[Mad Method]

It seems like you're a fan of games with a strong story and a bit of a flair for the cinematic over solid combat, etc. Given that, I'd get The Witcher over this if I were you, though you can get both. Amazon sells it dirt cheap and it's a much better game imo. The combat's alright, the story's good, and you don't get too many segments of plodding combat where you wonder "why am I still playing this game?" Word of advice when playing The Witcher: Don't grind fetch quests, get them, and you'll probably finish them naturally while doing the real story quests. Just don't forget to turn them in.

Dragon Age: Origins
Gameplay: Combat is like World of Warcraft only you control four characters which come with AI you can edit. There's a good amount of variety in how you can play your characters, but for the most part it gets monotonous except for special scripted fights. Also favors Mage characters.
Story: If you've played one Bioware RPG, you've played them all. The setting is very cliche-ridden and to make it more "unique" and "dark" they put some heavy-handed twists in there. Main story suffers from some plot holes. But, the story has its moments. There is an overreliance on the Codex to explain details of the setting, though.
Music: Music's fine.
Visuals: The graphics look positively dated. They don't look too bad, but they don't look very good either.
Level design: Somehow every level is a dungeon crawler level. Downright atrocious level design in the Fade at the Mage Tower. Also there are too many moments when a cutscene will drop you in a fight with horrible positioning.

As for which version of DAO to get... While you may as well get the Ultimate Edition since it has everything, only the original vanilla DAO is worthwhile, really. Everything outside that except Shale (which comes free with any new copy of DAO, vanilla or otherwise) is a rush job, too short, and aspires to various degrees of mediocrity. This includes Awakening, which is additionally known for its ridiculous amounts of bugs. And you should absolutely get the PC version for the mods. Mods I would recommend: Advanced Tactics, Detailed Tooltips, Morrigan Dialogue Restoration Fixpack, and Qwinn's Unofficial DA:O Bug Fixes. If you get the Ultimate Edition, I'd pitch my own DLC Transfer to Awakening Patch, since the DLC items won't transfer otherwise.

Modifié par Mad Method, 29 juin 2011 - 11:10 .

[Janni-in-VA]

As a fan of RPG's, I'd say buy DA:O. Good story, well-written characters, engaging moral decisions, and plenty of replay value. I've not seen plot holes per se, but there are some instances where events seem to slip a little sideways, mostly due to changes in the original plot arc for reasons of time and/or money. Definitely get the PC version if your box can handle it. The graphics are better and there are many excellent community made mods out there. And, I'd certainly get the Ultimate Edition. Most of the glaring problems with Awakening were fixed with Patch 1.04 (thought not all), and there are mods which correct the remaining problems. Gameplay does take a bit of getting used to, as you have to plan your battles more carefully. However, the learning curves isn't too steep, so you should manage just fine. I've found the graphics to be more than adequate and had no difficulty learning the controls.



As an aside, I've not played certain other Bioware titles such as Mass Effect or KotOR. I came to DA:O via games such as Diablo, Baldur's Gate, Neverwinter Nights, Morrowind and Oblivion. I found that DA:O's world felt familiar with enough tweaks and changes to make it individual. Needless to say, your mileage may vary.

[Mad Method]

Biggest plot hole I saw in DAO was the blatant lack of any discussion or planning on the logistics of defeating an archdemon - a giant flying super dragon - considering you can't fly. It's just "We'll kill it!" and what do you know, the issue of how to fight him resolves itself on the way. I also don't like how the priority of defeating the Archdemon takes a detour for you traipsing the country side doing as many fetch quests and other random stuff as you please. You just don't actually feel the pressure. And the moral decisions and dilemmas seem forced and contrived for the most part where Bioware will just shove their moral interpretations down your throat and give you limited options to resolve the situation, and even then, it's not that hard of a choice usually.

DAO is a little mean-spirited (and only a little) when it comes to the difficulty. It's really not that hard when you get the gist of it, especially if you use the Advanced Tactics mod for party member AI or just manually control all your party members like I do. But, it doesn't come with a proper combat tutorial (or even proper tooltips to explain how powerful certain abilities are) to explain how you should level your characters or combat strategies and then treats you to the Battle of Ostagar levels which require that kind of knowledge. You can always lower the difficulty, though.

Oh yeah, a word of advice: Don't rely on autosaves. Save the game yourself because otherwise sometimes you'll notice you have to replay more than an hour back to your last autosave.

Modifié par Mad Method, 28 novembre 2010 - 11:43 .

[EsotericThief]

Despite the 'elephant in the room' sized argument, this thread just convinced me to buy Dragon Age.



I recently started looking for another game that I'll enjoy for a sizable amount of time but didn't really want to be spending money. The way that it's been spoken about in this topic gave me the push I needed I guess.

[xeenx77]

Just go and rent it first...

[Jonny110]

xeenx77 wrote...

Just go and rent it first...

I may just do that ;D 

[Marvin_Arnold]

Mad Method wrote...

Biggest plot hole I saw in DAO was the blatant lack of any discussion or planning on the logistics of defeating an archdemon - a giant flying super dragon - considering you can't fly. It's just "We'll kill it!" and what do you know, the issue of how to fight him resolves itself on the way.

I found that rather consistent. [Spoliers ahead, highlight to read]Two rookie Grey Wardens find themselves suddenly at the helm of the operation. And I think Alistair says something about "we'll figure it out as we go". It takes a veteran Warden (Riordan) to come up with a strategy.[End Spoilers] As for the clichés, there is a page on tvtropes.org that lists them all and how they are handled.

As for the general quality, it's the ONLY game where I have played the original campaign more than twice! (Im currently on number four)

Modifié par Marvin_Arnold, 28 novembre 2010 - 03:53 .

[Zenon]

The Witcher (Enhanced Edition especially) of course is also worth buying. Although it is also a matter of taste. One huge difference is, that in The Witcher you play only one character with a predefined appearance and voice. In DAO you have a team, which you can assemble and manage by yourself. Also combat in The Witcher reminded me more of a TPS with sword than a tactical battle system. Storywise I can't compare both much yet, since I am maybe 15% into The Witcher. Still, somehow the world, characters and story of The Witcher so far didn't capture my heart as much as in DAO.

There are less jaw-dropping twists in the story compared to KoTOR, Jade Empire, or even Mass Effect (slightly anticipated that one)... ok, thinking about it, there is one interesting option in the plot of DAO close to the end, which really surprised me... but also the "chapters" have all their own charm in DAO.

I'm not completely through Awakening, but so far I enjoy it a lot.

About the "moral" decisions: In previous Bioware titles it was quite clear, that there was a good/light/paragon way to play on the one hand and a evil/dark/renegade way to play. In DAO the "morality" of decision isn't matched against a global, absolute scale of some sorts, but rather your decisions determine how your companions feel about you. (Who you can also swing in your favour with gifts.) And it is often interesting, if you seem to have only a choice between two not really nice options instead of a purely good or evil one. And some choices do have notable consequences.

Here maybe (supposedly) The Witcher surpasses: When it comes to consequences of your decisions during gameplay. Some consequences of decisions in DAO are just reflected in the epilogue while not much affecting the actual plot. (There are exceptions to this -- of course -- in DAO, but not as strictly as in The Witcher.)

[jhock21]

i didn't read all 90 replies but the answer is yes, yes you should. i dont remember exactly what made me try DA, because i wasnt' even an RPG fan before i played it.. and now its one of my favorite games ever.