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[Skadi_the_Evil_Elf]

Letting redcliffe fall or saving it does have future ramifications for Ferelden, as you will find out in Witch Hunt, if you play it. It certainly effects the epilogue.



Though I wish it had more consequence regarding Eamon and his help.

[Skadi_the_Evil_Elf]

Glaucon wrote...

Skadi_the_Evil_Elf wrote...

Letting redcliffe fall or saving it does have future ramifications for Ferelden, as you will find out in Witch Hunt, if you play it. It certainly effects the epilogue.

Though I wish it had more consequence regarding Eamon and his help.

That's good to know. Thanks.  Is WH a useful addition to the Lore?

Yes, it is, because it is a very cryptic foreshadowing of something to come, something really big. You don't know what, because it ends on a cliffhanger, but is probably foreshadowing something in DA3.

In Witch Hunt, you move your cursor over thw map of different locations in Ferelden, which reflect descisions you made in Awakenings and origins.

**Spoiler***

If you fought and saved Redcliffe in Origins, you learn that the Bannoron is unhappy with the leadership in Denerim (regardless of who is king/queen) and are starting to rally around and look to Redcliffe for support and leadership, hinting that a civil war, or major civil upheavals, might be on the horizon.

If You let redcliffe fall, it will be reflected as a dead, abandoned village and castle with rumors of undead swarming the place.

[Giggles_Manically]

Another trick is to slowly build up to it:

Play a:

Purely Good Hero, A flawed hero, A sarcastic hero, A ruthless Hero, Then an Evil bastard.



Work yourself up to it.



I dont know how many times I cringed when I did or said something bad for a while when playing Everd.

[Giggles_Manically]

Well it fits.



Slowly shifting into an evil bastard is the easiest way to go.

Although the evil ending in Jade Empire left me broken inside. Just 10 levels of wrong and evil all over the place. Dragon Age really lacks any "evil" compared to Jade Empire.

[Zjarcal]

I think she meant the Origins epilogue, how you can read the fate of Redcliffe in the map of Ferelden in WH, and how leaving it to its fate affects the Origins epilogue.

Modifié par Zjarcal, 27 novembre 2010 - 06:14 .

[CalJones]

Yes, there's a map in Witch Hunt which has brief descriptions of what has happened to places like Denerim, Lothering and Redcliffe.

[Brozan]

Why be true Evil or true good? it gets boring after a while and is rather unrealistic. BTW there is another thread on this topic somewhere that may be helpful.



I like to get inside my characters head figure out what makes them tick what motivates them what they care aobut what they hate what they love. Then make choices that fit your character I find it very enjoyable. People do things for a reason be they good or bad most do not do somethign because it's evil and that is who they want to be. The road the hell is paved with the best of intentions.



Logaine who in my book is a rather evil ruthless character thinks he's doing a "good thing"



However if you want to play someone truly evil you should have a reason for it take Flameth for example she didn't start out as the wicked witch of the wilds taking over the bodies of her daughters to attain immortality.



I think If I do a truly evil play thorugh the character would start out good trying to do good but then have something happen that begins to slowly warp him or her.



gotta love dark fantasy!!!

[Xts]

Glaucon wrote...

Xts wrote...

The gore doesn't bother me, pixeled paint as I see it but yet I cannot do bad, like you are/were saying you had going on with you. For some reason I cannot play "Darkspawn Chronicles" and I cannot kill off innocents. I can however feel comfortable enough to parlay with the wicked in the game and trick them/lie to them and get achievements for relationships that are not considered hetrosexual. I also dont' mind getting extra gold through intimidation or persuasion. Pretty much ripping the bad guys off, but they are "bad guys" so it's easier for me. I've always been this way and I figure if it doesn't come naturally for me, then it's not for me.. If at some time I actually do it, then so be it but I'm under no pressure to venture down that avenue.. I'm on my 2nd time around in the game.. I wanted to be something besides rogue but being stealthed and sneaking around is kinda fun for me so I'm notoriously a rogue.. I do hope to play my male again though.. It's another one of those "not so much me" things but it's easier to do than kill innocents or let a town fall.. I feel the need to "do right".. Though I say some smart alleck (spelling?) comments in the game sometimes intentionally to see the reaction.

To be honest, I thought I was the only one that had any form of resistance when it came to playing the "evil side". I can waiver from good to neutral but can't seem to go below that.. Guess there's no chance I'll be doing evil to an extreme but I don't really mind. There's so many aspects to the game already.. I like the different origin stories you can get by just playing a different character. But ya never know, some day I may say "I'm ticked right now and I really don't mind" but then again.. I'll probably do kinda like you did, sulk a bit... Ponder it the rest of the day and think "why did I do that?!" lol

Matter of fact sometimes the others words get on my nerves so I usually keep Alistair, Leliana and Wynne in my group.. Alistair is seemingly a good guy, same with Wynne and Leliana. Matter of fact me considering Blood Magic upset Wynne yesterday.. I was just trying to see if I could trick them into giving the proof against Loghain AND me releasing the slaves in the Alienage. Guess the option wasn't there and Wynne wasn't happy with me discussing it.. lol Well, it worked before with a demon!

On one hand though, I like intimidating them sometimes.. It's funny how they say "Woah.. I can see you can handle your own.. I'll be going now!" lol But again, it's usually a brute I say that to. I guess a tiger don't change it's stripes, atleast in my case. Best to ya in your goals..

That was remarkably clear. Thanks.  There is that argument as to a piece of medias ability to invoke emotional, theoretical or other positions.  Worthy and, no-doubt, subject to some study.  But should I torture myself. No.  But I don't deny that interacting especially with a game ruffles the psyche.   

*Edit*   If it feels wrong then it just feels wrong.  

Exactly my thoughts.. I'm a softy big time so I think that also affects my game choices. I help folks when I can, in game and out (though it's not always appreciated).  Plus me being out of the teenage years kinda curbs my wild appeal I suppose.. I'm very adult if you go by my age. lol  I'm pushing 40 and I don't mean the speed limit.. haha

But yeah, if you are uncomfortable, don't push yourself either.  Just enjoy it as that's what it's all about, right?  Explore your way..  Try things you want to try.. Be satisfied!   Speaking of satisfied, wish our guys could use stamina in the main game!! lol  Have fun with your game!  GL with your goals..

[Jacks Smirking Revenge]

Take more pragmatic companions to locations. Basically they will encourage your pragmatic behaviour. Support for your choices always makes you feel less "bad".  I never play an evil bastard, but I have played some ruthless or cold hearted tacticians before. I just can never RP a mustache twirling evil dude or a did it for the lulz evil guy.

[Xts]

Glaucon wrote...
I'll be 40 next February . 

Now that I've been role playing Honour for a while I've found that it's simpler to not over-think evil as doing that just makes me good again.  I guess it's that tendency to always want to help that you mention getting in the way of fantasy -- not that I fantasise about being nasty, but I trust you understand me.  I chose some pretty ugly choices in Redcliffe; instructing Connor to close his eyes before I was to slit his throat took around 30 minutes before I was able to select that dialogue, and it made me feel extremely uncomfortable doing it.

So it's not so much about wanting to be an evil character but being able to fully explore the content of the game.  In order to do that I'm going to have to temper my real world ethos and the tendency for it to spill over into my game.

Happy early birthday!!!!!  Aww, it'll be a good one if ya got family around.. It, to me, means you're still truckin', which is a great thing! There's upsides to it, too!   Retiring is one of them.. lol

I admire your real world honorable way of thinking!! It's so strong it winds up in your playtime.. LOL 30 minutes? I'd probably given up by then (depending on what it was).. I sat staring at my screen for 30 minutes with the Loghain one.. To kill or not to kill.. What do I do?  My fiance walked in and was disgruntled I didnt' grab the door for him. I alerted him to my own delimma and pointed out he didn't request my help so I was trying to tend to my own circumstances thinking he was just fussing with the door as usual. (he always takes a bit to get in, we have 3 locks)..  

The one I was able to accomplish that I didn't like was giving Morrigan a chance at her final choice for me (trying to not give too much away just in case you don't like that and haven't witnessed it, I don't recall)..

I do understand what you mean.. Best to you with your adventure.. seems it's just gonna take a bit of dedication and time on your part but I think you'll be able to do it.. You already seem determined.

There's always f9 if ya don't like something you did..

Modifié par Xts, 02 décembre 2010 - 12:02 .

[ModerateOsprey]

 I cannot find it in myself to play an out and out evil character, but I definitely play shades of grey. I tend to pick the companions for the task in hand. If I know I am going to have really push someone around, then its Sten, Morrigan and, of course, my faithful hound. After dirty deeds are done, celebrations are in order at The Pearl.
Meanwhile, Lel, Alistair and Wynne are waiting in innocence back at the camp