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[sympathy4saren]

 

[Count Viceroy]

How much did I facepalm after reading this?



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That much.

[Cerberus Operative Ashley Williams]

ummmmmmm....5?

[Katamariguy]

Hmmmmmmm...



Apparently the two universe' technology would seem roughly on par, but the Reapers definitely have far greater numbers.



And would the flood ally with the reapers?

[Inquisitor Recon]

How do we know the reapers have greater numbers? They could be as relatively few as several hundred.

[Jerecaine]

Reapers>Spartans>Spectres

[sympathy4saren]

The reason I ask because I honestly believe gamers, even some Mass Effect fans, cannot grasp the power, intelligence and perfect nature of the Reapers. I laugh when I hear somebody try to make an argument to the Reapers losing. I think we are done ourselves...

[Jerecaine]

IMO, I dont think it's too far out there for the flood to **** **** up if given time. They do have superior numbers (idk the exact number of Reapers).



If they were smart, the flood would go after every planet and infect everything first before fighting the reapers. Still though, Reapers would win from sheer power.

[sympathy4saren]

Thinking somebody else could beat the Reapers is "confidence born of ignorance". You cannot even grasp the nature of their existence. They are infinite. You touch their mind, fumbling in ignorance, incapable of understanding. They are beyond your comprehension. The cycle has repeated itself more times than you can fathom. Organic civilizations rise, evolve, advance, and at the apex of their glory, they are extinguished. You cannot escape. Organic life is nothing more than a genetic mutation. An accident. They are infinite, the pinnacle of evolution and existence. Before them, you and all organic life is nothing. (paraphrasing Sovereign)

[sympathy4saren]

Harbinger to The Flood: "You are pathetic bacteria".

[Inquisitor Recon]

Sovereign's smack talk didn't do him any good when Shepard ruined his plans. Worthless bragging meaning nothing.

The Gravemind could lay down some smack talk too, and he could rhyme.

[Nuke the site from Orbit]

Forerunners>Reapers. The Reapers actually have to conquer each planet one at a time when they return to the galaxy a "long slow process." The Forerunners literally just have to press a button to wipe out all life in the galaxy with the Halos. Forerunners definitely have the technological edge.



Also, Reapers still use kinetic barriers, which do nothing against directed energy weapons, which are the Covenant and Forerunners primary weapons.



Also, minor sidenote: UNSC> Alliance and Cerberus

[sympathy4saren]

Yeah, the Gravemind would be repeating every word the Reapers told them to say. Indoctrination does that, you see...

[sympathy4saren]

Actually, being all machine, I'm fairly certain all Reapers would laugh at the Halo rings.

[sympathy4saren]

UNCS couldn't even touch the Turians... by themselves.

[Phategod1]

Nuke the site from Orbit wrote...

Forerunners>Reapers. The Reapers actually have to conquer each planet one at a time when they return to the galaxy a "long slow process." The Forerunners literally just have to press a button to wipe out all life in the galaxy with the Halos. Forerunners definitely have the technological edge.

Also, Reapers still use kinetic barriers, which do nothing against directed energy weapons, which are the Covenant and Forerunners primary weapons.

Also, minor sidenote: UNSC> Alliance and Cerberus

I try to bury my Halo hatred but I have to say the Forerunners have to be the Second biggest Galactic idiots in the known fictional universe. Lets see the only way to save the Universe Is to destroy all life in it? To push CTRL+alt+ delete and reboot the entire galaxy? There almost as dumb as the Covenant for praying to the giant life nuking Rings and the Spaceballs.

[sympathy4saren]

The words and the actions of Forerunners to the Reapers are as empty as their future. Reapers would probably not even see them as a viable option for anything worthwhile.

[V-rex]

Phategod1 wrote...


I try to bury my Halo hatred but I have to say the Forerunners have to be the Second biggest Galactic idiots in the known fictional universe. Lets see the only way to save the Universe Is to destroy all life in it? To push CTRL+alt+ delete and reboot the entire galaxy? There almost as dumb as the Covenant for praying to the giant life nuking Rings and the Spaceballs.

I try to bury my Halo fandom and yet people just keep saying stuff that forces me to respond:

The only true sure fire way to eliminate the flood completely is to starve it to death. Sure, the main infestations and hives can be obliterated in explosions but in essence what the flood is is an infection. All it takes is one spore to spread and grow to destroy an entire species and worse still, as long as there are hosts there will be no stopping the spread. They can take ships and travel to distant worlds and devour everything they come into contact with.
The Flood is a cancer, there is no way to centrally destroy it. Hence, after a thousand other plans were tried and failed the Forerunners were left with no other choice but to destroy the Flood, and themselves, to ensure that the huge galactic scale infestation would not spread any further.

However they also catalogued DNA and Embryo's of many sentient races across the galaxy in order to allow it to be repopulated, so ultimatley it was still a victory.

As for the Covenant worshipping the Halo rings, can you really blame them? They grow up on their homeworlds with strange and unknown artefacts on them and grow to try to understand them. Hence they grow to honor those who made the rings as 'gods' because everything about their technology to their mystery made them appear very godly.
And then of course, later on the truth is finally revealed and a good portion of the Covenant leave and abandon that original religion.

OT: I don't know how the Halo Universe would far any better against the Reapers then any other universe against the Reapers would, to be fair though the might of the Halo Rings might help (although if we are going by the events after the main trilogy then there would no longer be an Ark to fall back to) because even though they were made to kill sentient life, it could still ultimatley be destructive enough to take out Reapers as well.

But still that's the kind of franchise fandom cross over kind of stuff that in all honesty I'd rather not really think about. However let it be known, if Turians and Sangheili ever got into a fight, the Sangheili would leave the Turians in a screaming pile of broken hips.

[sympathy4saren]

Yeah, you're right, I do believe UNSC could (currently) beat the Systems Alliance. We lost 3/4 of our fleet against Sovereign. However, Cerberus would pwn UNSC. FTL Drives, Thanix cannons, plus Collector and Reaper prototypes....UNSC is shafted.





Btw....how does Wussy Chief compare to an Adept with biotic implants and wielding submachine guns? Singularity, overload, submachine to the face, warp.. dead.

[Nuke the site from Orbit]

The fact that the Forerunners could even make a weapon so devestating is proof enough of their technological badassery, hell,in addition their method of FTL rivals if not outright surpasses the mass relays. Also, according to EDI the Reapers are a hybrid of organic and synthetic components, so it is possible they would be affected by the Halos, and if they are not affected, Reapers meet Forerunner dreadnoughts, nuff said.



Also, the Turians barely won against the Krogan (genophage) and could not even decisively beat the Allliance despite having more experiance in space warfare, equal or slightly superior tech, and greater numbers. The UNSC had all the same disadvantages of the Alliance when fighting the Covenant, just a dozen times worse, and they still won the war, particularily on the ground. Humanity ftw, it dosn't matter what series we will always win!

[sympathy4saren]

In all fairness to you, I'm not sure how we are going to beat the Reapers either. We are so toast, all of us. Humans, Turians, Asari, Geth, Batarians, Krogan, Hanar, Quarian and Salarians...we are done. Our universes should team up against these mofos.

[wissmongler]

reapers possess technology far more advanced then spartans nor the other folks with the halo ring. They are sentient beings that play the role of god and have systematically rewrite/erase history for generations...enough said?



If it takes an entire human fleet to take down one reaper then..well...



but..so far...



halo>reapers>shepard

[sympathy4saren]

In a universe where Reapers exist, the only technology you would be privy to would be technology they have provided you. The Forerunners would have developed along the paths they desired. Where are the Forerunners now? Why did they allow the Covenant to attack humanity?



Also, I believe that Reapers would simply exit back into Dark Space if any attempt was made to activate rings. Human Reaper (in embryonic stage) was part organic, other Reapers, don't think so.



If Salarians created genetic bioweapon for Krogan, just how eady would it be for other species. Do the Forerunners have a complex genome?

[Nuke the site from Orbit]

UNSC Office of Naval Intelligence: can be just as pragmatic if not moreso than Cerberus without the comicbook supervilliness, made the Spartan program, reverse engineers Covenant tech and like Cerberus can also bring clinically dead heros back to life somehow, just without the whole resurrected hero turning there back on them problem (paragon). Has any of Cerberus projects NOT blown up in their face?

[sympathy4saren]

The Turians were on the cusp of obliterating the Systems Alliance in the First Contact War before the Counsel intervened.



Lol. Where'd you get that one from?