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[Khayness]

gashgfjaskgfkagh wrote...

Khayness wrote...

Is this a VS thread?

Were they allowed or not? I kind of forgot...

They aren't.

[SonofMacPhisto]

OONSK!

[Commissar Gash]

Gleym wrote...

Seriously, it's ludicrous. It's just yet another case of rabid fandom gone wrong, pretty much. I mean, like I said, I'm not even a fan of the Halo series (FPS games make me woozy), but even I have basic knowledge of its weapons and functionality, and the threat level of its enemies. A lot of the times, I've noticed, most Mass Effect fans (especially Mass Effect 2 fans) are like Final Fantasy 7 fans: Completely delusional, convinced that the game is faultless and perfect and that anyone who says otherwise is a dirty liar worthy of a heretic's death - oh, and "my favorite character beats this character because I SAID so!" in bucketloads. Heck, most of the ME-favoring reasons I'm hearing so far (keyword: MOST, anyone who actually made an intelligent argument is thus excluded from this) remind me of a FF7 fantard shrieking on and on about how Sephiroth is the ultimate villain and nobody can beat Cloud Strife.

I agree with you, pretty much every fanbase suffers from things like that (Halo is obviously one of them), but those are all "arguments" I always saw in different Halo vs ME discussions (of course Halo's side can come up with stupid things like that too). Some people also just fail to see that if something is uber-powerful in one universe it doesn't mean it is in another one. It can get even more ludicrous though, I saw enough people claiming Alliance would defeat the Imperium of Man or that Master Chief was able to kill someone who is immortal...
While I am a huge Halo fan (entire universe, not just the games) I always do my best to stay as much unbiased as possible, sadly many people are not even trying.

[Commissar Gash]

Khayness wrote...

gashgfjaskgfkagh wrote...

Khayness wrote...

Is this a VS thread?

Were they allowed or not? I kind of forgot...

They aren't.

Oh, then I guess its the best to leave this thread alone and let it die.

[Nuke the site from Orbit]

gashgfjaskgfkagh: you are my hero, also awesome avatar, now I can't help but imagine Liara doing Sgt. Johnson's Halo 1 legendary speech, lol.



Also, in Halo AIs are FAR more common and understood than in Mass Effect, where just EDI was a major threat to the Reapers, so...

[Soahfreako]

Jerecaine wrote...

Reapers>Spartans>Spectres

Spartans would have a VERY tough time with spectres ESPECIALLY if it's a biotic spectre. I'm 99.9% sure spartans have never come up against anything like it.

[Commissar Gash]

Nuke the site from Orbit wrote...

gashgfjaskgfkagh: you
are my hero, also awesome avatar, now I can't help but imagine Liara
doing Sgt. Johnson's Halo 1 legendary speech, lol.

Also, in Halo
AIs are FAR more common and understood than in Mass Effect, where just
EDI was a major threat to the Reapers, so...

lol thanks! [smilie]../../../images/forum/emoticons/wizard.png[/smilie] Well Johnson's "I know what the ladies like" is what inspired me to make it.

Plus
EDI while would've been a simple dumb AI in Halo. Cortana would laugh
the blue off her ass if TIM said to her that EDI is an advanced AI [smilie]../../../images/forum/emoticons/tongue.png[/smilie]

Ok, now I'm truly leaving this thread, its the best to simply just leave it alone.

[SonofMacPhisto]

gashgfjaskgfkagh wrote...

Khayness wrote...

gashgfjaskgfkagh wrote...

Khayness wrote...

Is this a VS thread?

Were they allowed or not? I kind of forgot...

They aren't.

Oh, then I guess its the best to leave this thread alone and let it die.

Hey, at least Shepard and Master Chief aren't afraid to shoot first, amirite?

DO YOU HEAR ME GEORGE LUCAS.  WELL?  DO YOU?

[Soahfreako]

SonofMacPhisto wrote...

gashgfjaskgfkagh wrote...

Khayness wrote...

gashgfjaskgfkagh wrote...

Khayness wrote...

Is this a VS thread?

Were they allowed or not? I kind of forgot...

They aren't.

Oh, then I guess its the best to leave this thread alone and let it die.

Hey, at least Shepard and Master Chief aren't afraid to shoot first, amirite?

DO YOU HEAR ME GEORGE LUCAS.  WELL?  DO YOU?

I don't think he can hear text. Just sayin'.

[Praetor Knight]

Soahfreako wrote...

SonofMacPhisto wrote...

gashgfjaskgfkagh wrote...

Khayness wrote...

gashgfjaskgfkagh wrote...

Khayness wrote...

Is this a VS thread?

Were they allowed or not? I kind of forgot...

They aren't.

Oh, then I guess its the best to leave this thread alone and let it die.

Hey, at least Shepard and Master Chief aren't afraid to shoot first, amirite?

DO YOU HEAR ME GEORGE LUCAS.  WELL?  DO YOU?

I don't think he can hear text. Just sayin'.

Who knows, maybe Lucas can feel a disturbance in the Force

[Computer_God91]

Soahfreako wrote...

Jerecaine wrote...

Reapers>Spartans>Spectres

Spartans would have a VERY tough time with spectres ESPECIALLY if it's a biotic spectre. I'm 99.9% sure spartans have never come up against anything like it.

I doubt Spectres could handle Spartans, 300% reaction speed increase, faster, stronger, and they weight about 1250 pounds (half a ton) in that armor they where. Now I know I haven't seen Shepard and friends lift a large vehicle and chuck it around like a used napkin.

I'm a Mass Effect Fan boy but even I know Spartans could kick the crap out of any spectre, Biotic or not.

EDIT: I'm also 99.9% sure a spectre has never come up against anything like that.

Modifié par Computer_God91, 24 novembre 2010 - 11:47 .

[LeVaughnX]

CommanderSheperd117 wrote...

Ahem, let's take this piece by piece, with the two most similar species or characters clashing.
Master Chief vs. Commander Shepard:
By far MC would win close up, but Shepard has superior long range and guns. However, if Shepard is a vanguard or adapt, he could simply charge or throw chief, and win long range and close up.
Arbiter vs. Saren:
Saren would simply gun him down via hoverboard. Arbiter would never be able to slice him with his swords when he's flying.
Krogan vs. Brutes
As Undertone said earlier, the Krogan have far better weaponry and are stronger, but Brutes are more disciplined and agile with slightly better armor.
Salarians vs. Jackals
If Kirrahe could withstand hoards of Geth coming after him, he could hold the line against a bunch of pistol-wielding salamanders.
Turians vs. Elites:
The elites are fewer in overall number, but it would take roughly 5 turians to combat one elite, so use your better judgement.
Forerunners vs. Reapers
Obviously if the Reapers number in the hundreds(at least 295 according to ME wiki), the forerunners would get their asses beat but they would win by a little. If the Reapers numbered in the thousands, it would be a slaughter.
Council vs. Prophets
The prophets would yell blasphemy while the Councillors make air quotes, but then again, the turian has military training(required for turians) and the asari could use biotics.

You've never played the Mass Effect games or read the books have you =)?

Master Chief vs Commander Shepard:
Shepard (IF we use the default soldier) would win in every aspect especially up close. Sure MC has a super-powered suit but you have to remember, Shepard is the best of the best - he killed a giant ****ing super machine/human with just guns. Shepard DIED and technically survived ten times more deadly situations that Chief has. Though yes - Chief has highly dangerous CQC; his abilities don't go far especially due to the fact that his brains tell him to back-pedal more than push the pace. Shepard has a whole universe on his shoulders; not just the human race - this guy has motivation.

Arbiter vs Saren: -----> Arbiter vs Garrus:
Though I do not know why you'd pit these two up - Saren would win hands down because he is a powerful Turian Spectre (sp) whose also semi-cyborgnetic. The Turians already have more than enough combat training to bring down even the strongest enemies, not to mention most are extremely intelligent. The Elites however have very limited intelligence in terms of strategy - they focus on shock and awe techniques then just let grunts do the work for them until stealth or brute force is needed. Elites/Arbiter really don't demonstrate that it takes to beat any of the Turians - let alone Saren or Garrus. Not to mention - Saren would just blow up the Arbiter while Garrus would snipe the bastard.

Krogan vs Brutes:
Easy to call - Krogan. Brutes lack the strength, regeneration, concentration, and combat tactics (as well as Biotics) that the Krogan each have to a certian degree. Sure the Brutes are (as the name implies) just strong and large - they lack the physical standing of a Krogan. Krogan have tougher skin, biotics, and can easily take all the punishment a Brute can dish out.

Salarians vs Jackals:
Oh now this one I semi-agree with, most Salarians are terrible in stand up combat. However you've seen that the STG's are extremely intelligent and can usually out manuiver their enemy using their brains over brawn. Sure they lack a lot of physical attributes but if they can fight off the Geth and Krogan using their brains and stealth, I doubt a Jackal with a sniper could fair any better.

**Elites vs Turians --> Shown above**

Forerunners vs Reapers AND OR Geth:
The Forerunners are basically A.I. with lasers - nothing fancy. They have "The Rings" but do you think that the Reapers OR the Geth would give them the time they needed to use them? No. However here is the situation. The Geth/Reapers would end up either hacking into the Halo's and using them as food to increase their technological standing - or the Forerunners would USE Halo - thus killing the Reapers (some of them, not all) but dieing anyway due to the Geth.

Council vs Prophets:
Council wins useing the Destiny Ascention - if not, then they have Two Tech Specialists, One Biotic, and all three are bound to be trained in combat as I'm sure the Salairan was an STG member / the Turian had to be trained as most were / the Asari must have been a Commando or something -- I doubt they'd let just anyone rule their people hah.


Halo in general would fail and end up being crushed by Mass Effect only because the Mass Effect universe is so much more advanced - has more species - and is just all around better in general. Some say the "Jump Drives" in Halo would give them an edge, or that the Spartans would - but think about it...Mass Effect Drives basically launch you through space in a similiar manner, though they aren't as "random" as a Jump Drive. As for Spartans - you have Spectres (sp) - most are trained in MOST if not ALL weapons; and they are hand picked as the BEST OF THE BEST. Most Spartans got their asses shot up due to poor intelligence or they were bum-rushers; the Spectres are designed to be smart, fast, strong, and just over all badass.

One more thing - some argue that the Spartans are stronger / faster etc...Well Shepard fought hand to hand with many people including the Yahg (sp?) who I won't spoil who it is for anyone but still, if Shepard can break down a big son of a **** like that with his bare hands while taking a beating then good for him.

Spectres are not weak and expendable, they are the most dependable and the best of their race - chosen; but not conscripted, to become someone who has no red tape - and who will be sent on the most dangerous missions, with or without a squad of their choosing.

Spartans are expendable; given cyborgnetic enhancements, drugs, all sorts of training that was forced upon them from day one in a cruel"er" environement. They had no choice in the matter - regardless if they felt it was "home" or not in the end - they were a product of experimentation; and they all died due to lack of intelligent planning.

Modifié par LeVaughnX, 24 novembre 2010 - 11:55 .

[SonofMacPhisto]

Praetor Shepard wrote...

Soahfreako wrote...

SonofMacPhisto wrote...

gashgfjaskgfkagh wrote...

Khayness wrote...

gashgfjaskgfkagh wrote...

Khayness wrote...

Is this a VS thread?

Were they allowed or not? I kind of forgot...

They aren't.

Oh, then I guess its the best to leave this thread alone and let it die.

Hey, at least Shepard and Master Chief aren't afraid to shoot first, amirite?

DO YOU HEAR ME GEORGE LUCAS.  WELL?  DO YOU?

I don't think he can hear text. Just sayin'.

Who knows, maybe Lucas can feel a disturbance in the Force

A million souls cried out at once, and then were snuffed out, the moment Greedo shot first.

[Soahfreako]

Computer_God91 wrote...

Soahfreako wrote...

Jerecaine wrote...

Reapers>Spartans>Spectres

Spartans would have a VERY tough time with spectres ESPECIALLY if it's a biotic spectre. I'm 99.9% sure spartans have never come up against anything like it.

I doubt Spectres could handle Spartans, 300% reaction speed increase, faster, stronger, and they weight about 1250 pounds (half a ton) in that armor they where. Now I know I haven't seen Shepard and friends lift a large vehicle and chuck it around like a used napkin.

I'm a Mass Effect Fan boy but even I know Spartans could kick the crap out of any spectre, Biotic or not.

EDIT: I'm also 99.9% sure a spectre has never come up against anything like that.

remember Ascension? Fork lift. (I think, it was something like that)

Modifié par Soahfreako, 25 novembre 2010 - 12:17 .

[Computer_God91]

Soahfreako wrote...

Computer_God91 wrote...

Soahfreako wrote...

Jerecaine wrote...

Reapers>Spartans>Spectres

Spartans would have a VERY tough time with spectres ESPECIALLY if it's a biotic spectre. I'm 99.9% sure spartans have never come up against anything like it.

I doubt Spectres could handle Spartans, 300% reaction speed increase, faster, stronger, and they weight about 1250 pounds (half a ton) in that armor they where. Now I know I haven't seen Shepard and friends lift a large vehicle and chuck it around like a used napkin.

I'm a Mass Effect Fan boy but even I know Spartans could kick the crap out of any spectre, Biotic or not.

EDIT: I'm also 99.9% sure a spectre has never come up against anything like that.

remember Ascension? Fork lift. (I think, it was something like that)

God, sometimes I swear you're the lamest person to talk to.

[Soahfreako]

Computer_God91 wrote...

Soahfreako wrote...

Computer_God91 wrote...

Soahfreako wrote...

Jerecaine wrote...

Reapers>Spartans>Spectres

Spartans would have a VERY tough time with spectres ESPECIALLY if it's a biotic spectre. I'm 99.9% sure spartans have never come up against anything like it.

I doubt Spectres could handle Spartans, 300% reaction speed increase, faster, stronger, and they weight about 1250 pounds (half a ton) in that armor they where. Now I know I haven't seen Shepard and friends lift a large vehicle and chuck it around like a used napkin.

I'm a Mass Effect Fan boy but even I know Spartans could kick the crap out of any spectre, Biotic or not.

EDIT: I'm also 99.9% sure a spectre has never come up against anything like that.

remember Ascension? Fork lift. (I think, it was something like that)

God, sometimes I swear you're the lamest person to talk to.

Because I have a legitimate arguement?

[Gleym]

If legitimate means 'facepalm-worthy' where you come from, then yes.

[Stanley Woo]

Sorry, no vs. threads here, please. Thank you.



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[Soahfreako]

Gleym wrote...

If legitimate means 'facepalm-worthy' where you come from, then yes.

Care to explain why saying Spartans would have a tough time dealing with spectres is face-palm worthy?