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[Gabey5]

i don`t recall any details other than `he was a traitor k`` 

[aDuck]

I kinda thought he wanted to kill Miranda, leaving everyone else as collatoral. In the voice memo's, you hear him talking about her in an almost admiring way, but at the same time, it doesn't sound friendly.

[VampireCommando]

Two words; Cerberus ****hole.

Modifié par VampireCommando, 24 novembre 2010 - 02:37 .

[Zulu_DFA]

Wilson wasn't trying to kill Shep. Miranda hacked the mechs to give him a live fire test. And kill Wilson.

[Grimmace]

I got the impression he was involved with the Shadow Broker. Either from LotSB or one of the books.

[LorDC]

LotSB files gave me impression that he was paid by old SB.

[AntiChri5]

I saw nothing in the LotSB files to suggest it was the Shadow Broker. The assumption that it was him is built entirely off the fact that TSB and TIM are enemies.

Zulu's laughable theory is even worse then BioWare putting this whole thing together to give us a tutorial and establish Miranda as a cold hard **** then expecting us to completely forget about it as soon as we get on the shuttle.

[LorDC]

Just launched ME2 to check it out. In LotSB Cerberus files it is said that losses from losing Shepard's body were offset by data gained from Lazarus project. It basically means that SB had agent inside Lazarus. Well, maybe it was some other traitor but I doubt it.

[AntiChri5]

Do not forget that the Broker has recordings of things that happened on the Lazarus Station. He clearly has an agent on board, and it is more than likely that agent was responsible for the mechs.

Was it Wilson? Probably. BioWare wants us to just accept it and move on.

[Zulu_DFA]

AntiChri5 wrote...

I saw nothing in the LotSB files to suggest it was the Shadow Broker. The assumption that it was him is built entirely off the fact that TSB and TIM are enemies.
Zulu's laughable theory is even worse then BioWare putting this whole thing together to give us a tutorial and establish Miranda as a cold hard **** then expecting us to completely forget about it as soon as we get on the shuttle.

This post is laughable for two reasons:

1. It calls my theory laughable.

2. It shows that the poster is ignorant:

This is a note the Shadow Broker wrote for himself on top of the Legion's dossier:

Note: We are still unable to directly tap geth communications. Cerberus decryption programs look promising, but Wilson´s death will make integrating new agents onto Minuteman difficult

Decide for yourself, who's payroll Wilson was on.

Modifié par Zulu_DFA, 24 novembre 2010 - 03:17 .

[AntiChri5]

Oh wow. I missed one sentence in one text file in one dlc. The horrible burning shame. Woe is me.

Doesn't make your theory any less absurd.

[Zulu_DFA]

AntiChri5 wrote...

Oh wow. I missed one sentence in one text file in one dlc. The horrible burning shame. Woe is me.
Doesn't make your theory any less absurd.

Wanna talk? All right.

How is it absurd?

Oh, and before we go, maybe we should take it to one of the zillion other "Wilson" treads out there, the one which already's got me discussing this?

http://social.biowar...index/2710766/1

[Giggles_Manically]

Hehe



TIM wanted to make a tutorial level for Shepard to make up for the real lack of one in ME1.

Hats off mate.



In all honesty Wilson probably got offered a lot of money from someone to do it.

[AntiChri5]

Wanna talk? All right.

How is it absurd?

I don't really want to but it would be immature of me not to after raising the issue.

[AntiChri5]

Wait, Zulu, why are you linking me to a long dead thread? I don't necro.

[Zulu_DFA]

Wait, Zulu, why are you linking me to a long dead thread? I don't necro.

Because it was a good thread. It also had some discussion of the ME narration perspective in general. And why don't you necro? Religious taboo or what?

[MisterDyslexo]

Although BW pretty much says "The shadow broker did it", there could've been a lot of other ways to interpret it. For example, Miranda's a little obsessed with Shepard, after oh say rebuilding him/her for two years. Its part of the reason maleshep (very oddly not FemShep, that caught me off guard) gets to clean the engines with her. I wouldn't be surprised if Wilson got a little caught up in it too. Or it could be Zulu's theory. Although I disagree with most of them, he certainly does think it out.

[Phaedon]

Wilson ? House MD's colleague ?

[SpectreSeven]

Wilson was on the Broker's payroll

[Killjoy Cutter]

Zulu_DFA wrote...

Wilson wasn't trying to kill Shep. Miranda hacked the mechs to give him a live fire test. And kill Wilson.

Where do you get that from?

[Aigyl]

I haven't played LOTSB yet, so apologies if this is answered in there, but if Wilson was told to hack the mechs by the Shadow Broker, then why did the Shadow Broker want Shepard dead? I can't see how it's profitable to kill off Shepard, heck Shepard probably gives some extra income with all the new information coming in from his/her adventures.


When first playing through I actually thought Jacob was the traitor. He came across as a friendly, trusting guy while Wilson was this jittery shady-looking tech. Jacob had to be the traitor!

Then Miranda shot Wilson, we left the station, and the rather interesting sub-plot never got mentioned again [smilie]../../../images/forum/emoticons/sad.png[/smilie]

Modifié par Aigyl, 24 novembre 2010 - 05:25 .

[Zulu_DFA]

Killjoy Cutter wrote...

Zulu_DFA wrote...

Wilson wasn't trying to kill Shep. Miranda hacked the mechs to give him a live fire test. And kill Wilson.

Where do you get that from?

From the game. If you are interested, check the old thread I've linked for my posts.

LotSB only confirmed it: TSB wanted Shepard alive, intact and fully functional. Wilson was his top agent in Cerberus*.  Hence, it makes no sense for Wilson to hack the mechs and try to kill everyone on the station (including himself).

TIM and Miranda knew that Wilson was a traitor, before the incident (because I can't think of a way for Miranda to figure it out if it came as a surprise for her during the incident itself). Therefore they had to take pre-emptive measures and neutralize Wilson. The mech attack was exactly it.


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*Supposedly there were others, some of whom were double agents, and gave Wilson away to TIM, while continuing to feed TSB with pieces of useless information on Cerberus, like Jacob's workout vid, Legion's touchdown at the Derelict Reaper vid, TIM's fake sex life, etc.

Modifié par Zulu_DFA, 24 novembre 2010 - 05:54 .

[Therion942]

Because derp

Also stop trying to justify stupidity so you can sleep at night, Zulu.

[Killjoy Cutter]

Zulu_DFA wrote...

Killjoy Cutter wrote...

Zulu_DFA wrote...

Wilson wasn't trying to kill Shep. Miranda hacked the mechs to give him a live fire test. And kill Wilson.

Where do you get that from?

From the game. If you are interested, check the old thread I've linked for my posts.

LotSB only confirmed it: TSB wanted Shepard alive, intact and fully functional. Wilson was his top agent in Cerberus*.  Hence, it makes no sense for Wilson to hack the mechs and try to kill everyone on the station (including himself).

TIM and Miranda knew that Wilson was a traitor, before the incident (because I can't think of a way for Miranda to figure it out if it came as a surprise for her during the incident itself). Therefore they had to take pre-emptive measures and neutralize Wilson. The mech attack was exactly it.


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*Supposedly there were others, some of whom were double agents, and gave Wilson away to TIM, while continuing to feed TSB with pieces of useless information on Cerberus, like Jacob's workout vid, Legion's touchdown at the Derelict Reaper vid, TIM's fake sex life, etc.

Wilson was a Shadow Broker agent, check.  I think a lot of us suspected that before LotSB.  


The part about Miranda setting off the mechs in order to test Shep and kill Wilson?  Completely your own wild speculation.

A less "Oliver Stone" explanation is that Wilson didn't plan to kill Shep, Shep was supposed to stay asleep and unharmed -- the mechs could easily be instructed to not enter that room or to not attack the unconcious or whatever.   Hence, Wilson's surpise when Jacob says that Shep is awake. 

Who tells us that the mechs attack Wilson?  Wilson.  Yet there he is in a room, with no sign of mechs, and with a wound he easily recovers from with a simple application Medigel.  He could just as easily shot himself, and in the chaos of the moment Jacob and Shep wouldn't have noticed anything strange about the wound (remember no powder burns in ME).

[Praetor Knight]

To OP: People do strange things when they are jealous, and / or feel slighted, maybe Wilson was mad with himself and with Miranda not respecting him and his work on Shep and then went cuckoo. He did shoot himself in the leg right?
So the fact that he was at least a double agent drove him over the edge along with Miranda's shining personality when Wilson activated the mechs.

Edit: I like Killjoy's reasoning above better. Broker gets what Broker wants.

Modifié par Praetor Shepard, 24 novembre 2010 - 06:33 .