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[Marxman2]

So i just completed another playthrough of ME1, and this time chose to head to the AA Tower instead of the Bomb site (like i normally do). Now i wanted to compare the two, which one played out better.

Personally, i feel the Bomb site has a far better battleground, also
with Sarens arrival while firing into the water adds a better effect.
Though i prefer the ending cutscenes at the AA Tower, such as when
Sarens hold you over the ledge, and when seeing Kaidan/Ash watch the
Normandy leave without them.

Which one do you believe has the better cutscenes and battleground?

[Nezzer]

Saren holding Shepard over the ledge>>>>Bomb Site



That's why whoever I choose to guard the bomb is the one that I chose to let die.

[Katamariguy]

I go with the AA tower, with the added bonus of saving Captain Kirrahe.

[Mixtos]

I also choose to go to the AA Tower. Saren dragging Shepard along the ground before dangling Shepard over the edge of the tower made for an awesome fight scene. On top of that, the cutscene showing whoever you left behind, fending off the Geth single-handedly whilst leaning against the bomb, is also a good scene.

[Zulu_DFA]

Back to the bomb site. The AA tower is reported to be disabled, and Shepard needs to ensure the mission succeeds.

[Cerberus Operative Ashley Williams]

Zulu_DFA wrote...

Back to the bomb site. The AA tower is reported to be disabled, and Shepard needs to ensure the mission succeeds.

This. Every time. I hate how much people metagame to see a cooler cutscene as opposed to actually roleplaying.

[The Smoking Man]

I almost always choose the bomb site. I did pick the AA tower on my last playthrough, though, just to see how it was any different.

[Fiery Phoenix]

I don't really care; I chose both across all of my eight playthroughs rather arbitrarily. I think I went with the AA tower more often, though.

[dgcatanisiri]

I normally go to the bomb site, just out of a sense of that is the mission, the AA towers are the distraction. The bomb is why we're there, and it is possible, however unlikely, that the geth could find a way to disarm the nuke. If it doesn't go off, every sacrifice made is rendered meaningless.

[Zulu_DFA]

DSerpa wrote...

Captain Kirrahe says that there's a snowball's chance in hell of disarming the nuke once it's activated, so there really isn't a practical reason to choose the bombsite over the AA tower. I'd say it's actually more practical to choose the AA tower because you save more lives and there's less Geth resistance.

Even if the bomb can't be deactivated, it can be removed by the geth dropship or something. As for more lives, this is not true. You can't tell how many Salariansremain alive at the tower, but you know for sure that there are some Normandy's red shirts (your own crew) at the bomb site.

[Cerberus Operative Ashley Williams]

DSerpa wrote...

Captain Kirrahe says that there's a snowball's chance in hell of disarming the nuke once it's activated, so there really isn't a practical reason to choose the bombsite over the AA tower. I'd say it's actually more practical to choose the AA tower because you save more lives and there's less Geth resistance.

The bomb is the mission. Zero chance of the mission failing is infinitely better than a "snowball's chance in hell" of the mission failing.

[Marxman2]

Cerberus Operative Ashley Williams wrote...

DSerpa wrote...

Captain Kirrahe says that there's a snowball's chance in hell of disarming the nuke once it's activated, so there really isn't a practical reason to choose the bombsite over the AA tower. I'd say it's actually more practical to choose the AA tower because you save more lives and there's less Geth resistance.

The bomb is the mission. Zero chance of the mission failing is infinitely better than a "snowball's chance in hell" of the mission failing.

Well this has kinda swayed from the topic, originally i was only asking which you thought had the better content, not which one would make more sense story wise. But if you make your choice on such basis, then i'd say its more realistic to choose who you would rather save. Atleast thats my opinion anyway.

After all, even if the chosen location is the AA Tower, chances are the geth wouldn't be able to move /disarm it in time since you barely make it out of there yourself. And i have faith in Ash/Kaidan to defend it long enough for us to get away.

[Stazro]

Katamariguy wrote...

I go with the AA tower, with the added bonus of saving Captain Kirrahe.

You don't need to go to the tower to save Kirrahe, he survives just as well if you go back to the bomb side. I've actually been only once to the AA tower, but I've never had Kirrahe dead.

Marxman2 wrote...
 But if you make your choice on such basis,
then i'd say its more realistic to choose who you would rather save.
Atleast thats my opinion anyway.

If you are able to give objective reasons for where to go you spare Shepard to choose because of personal preferences and thus lessen the commanding officer's dilemma.
As player you of course know beforehand, when deciding someone goes with the Salarians that one of them will die, but Shepard doesn't.

Modifié par Stazro, 26 novembre 2010 - 08:18 .

[Cerberus Operative Ashley Williams]

Marxman2 wrote...

Cerberus Operative Ashley Williams wrote...

The bomb is the mission. Zero chance of the mission failing is infinitely better than a "snowball's chance in hell" of the mission failing.

Well this has kinda swayed from the topic, originally i was only asking which you thought had the better content, not which one would make more sense story wise. But if you make your choice on such basis, then i'd say its more realistic to choose who you would rather save. Atleast thats my opinion anyway.

After all, even if the chosen location is the AA Tower, chances are the geth wouldn't be able to move /disarm it in time since you barely make it out of there yourself. And i have faith in Ash/Kaidan to defend it long enough for us to get away.

That's exactly the problem. The decision should not be based at all on which has better content. There is no reason for Shepard to risk the mission unnecessarily to go to the AA tower. That option should honestly never be chosen.

[Xilizhra]

Cerberus Operative Ashley Williams wrote...

Zulu_DFA wrote...

Back to the bomb site. The AA tower is reported to be disabled, and Shepard needs to ensure the mission succeeds.

This. Every time. I hate how much people metagame to see a cooler cutscene as opposed to actually roleplaying.

Why you care this much about how other people play the game is beyond me, I admit...

[Cerberus Operative Ashley Williams]

Xilizhra wrote...

Cerberus Operative Ashley Williams wrote...

Zulu_DFA wrote...

Back to the bomb site. The AA tower is reported to be disabled, and Shepard needs to ensure the mission succeeds.

This. Every time. I hate how much people metagame to see a cooler cutscene as opposed to actually roleplaying.

Why you care this much about how other people play the game is beyond me, I admit...

Because it pressures the writers to create ME2 fairytale endings where everyone lives and no hard choices or sacrifices are made. We can make everyone happy with us and nothing has to go wrong. Shepard should have control over his actions, not the context in which he makes his choices. It starts when people play the game as some sort of omniscient player as opposed to playing as a very limited Shepard.

[JasonShepard]

Cerberus Operative Ashley Williams wrote...

Marxman2 wrote...

Cerberus Operative Ashley Williams wrote...

The bomb is the mission. Zero chance of the mission failing is infinitely better than a "snowball's chance in hell" of the mission failing.

Well this has kinda swayed from the topic, originally i was only asking which you thought had the better content, not which one would make more sense story wise. But if you make your choice on such basis, then i'd say its more realistic to choose who you would rather save. Atleast thats my opinion anyway.

After all, even if the chosen location is the AA Tower, chances are the geth wouldn't be able to move /disarm it in time since you barely make it out of there yourself. And i have faith in Ash/Kaidan to defend it long enough for us to get away.

That's exactly the problem. The decision should not be based at all on which has better content. There is no reason for Shepard to risk the mission unnecessarily to go to the AA tower. That option should honestly never be chosen.

Marxman2 wrote...

Which one do you believe has the better cutscenes and battleground? 

Marxman2  isn't asking which you chose and why - he's asking which you would pick if you *had* to base your choice on the cutscene. It doesn't matter that you personally wouldn't base your choice on the content but rather on your interpretation of the plot.

OT: I honestly don't know which I prefer. The bomb site is a cool location, and I prefer how the Saren conversation happens there. That said, I prefer Saren holding Shepard over the edge at the AA tower.


(And to give a renegade's reason to go to the AA tower: you're choosing between whether the bomb is guarded until it goes off, or whether the AA tower is guarded until the bomb goes off. Surely leaving the bomb to be guarded has the higher chance of mission success, so one ought to evacuate the AA tower. It can be argued both ways.)

[Cerberus Operative Ashley Williams]

JasonShepard wrote...

Marxman2  isn't asking which you chose and why - he's asking which you would pick if you *had* to base your choice on the cutscene. It doesn't matter that you personally wouldn't base your choice on the content but rather on your interpretation of the plot.

OT: I honestly don't know which I prefer. The bomb site is a cool location, and I prefer how the Saren conversation happens there. That said, I prefer Saren holding Shepard over the edge at the AA tower.


(And to give a renegade's reason to go to the AA tower: you're choosing between whether the bomb is guarded until it goes off, or whether the AA tower is guarded until the bomb goes off. Surely leaving the bomb to be guarded has the higher chance of mission success, so one ought to evacuate the AA tower. It can be argued both ways.)

The OP also asked which one "plays out better." I'm just giving my reason.

As to leaving the bomb site "defended," it wasn't a question of leaving troops anywhere to hold of the Geth. Both positions were being overrun. I go back to the bomb site to mop up the Geth there and secure it. If the bomb site is not reinforced, there is a risk (albeit a small one) of the bomb being disarmed. The mission must succeed.

[Xilizhra]

Cerberus Operative Ashley Williams wrote...

Xilizhra wrote...

Cerberus Operative Ashley Williams wrote...

Zulu_DFA wrote...

Back to the bomb site. The AA tower is reported to be disabled, and Shepard needs to ensure the mission succeeds.

This. Every time. I hate how much people metagame to see a cooler cutscene as opposed to actually roleplaying.

Why you care this much about how other people play the game is beyond me, I admit...

Because it pressures the writers to create ME2 fairytale endings where everyone lives and no hard choices or sacrifices are made. We can make everyone happy with us and nothing has to go wrong. Shepard should have control over his actions, not the context in which he makes his choices. It starts when people play the game as some sort of omniscient player as opposed to playing as a very limited Shepard.

So... Bioware making its games in a manner that most of their players will enjoy... is bad.
Well, I hope you find the pain you're looking for somewhere.

[Cerberus Operative Ashley Williams]

Xilizhra wrote...

Cerberus Operative Ashley Williams wrote...

Because it pressures the writers to create ME2 fairytale endings where everyone lives and no hard choices or sacrifices are made. We can make everyone happy with us and nothing has to go wrong. Shepard should have control over his actions, not the context in which he makes his choices. It starts when people play the game as some sort of omniscient player as opposed to playing as a very limited Shepard.

So... Bioware making its games in a manner that most of their players will enjoy... is bad.
Well, I hope you find the pain you're looking for somewhere.

Making the game have some sense of sacrifice and choice will make it more enjoyable, not less. I want quality choices and the feeling of loss as opposed to the instant gratification of "no one left behind" in ME2 that left a horrible taste in my mouth.

[Xilizhra]

Okay, so you say that this will make it more enjoyable... so if more people generally enjoy your way of playing it and are joining you in asking for more sacrifice, why are you worried about this?

[Dean_the_Young]

Katamariguy wrote...

I go with the AA tower, with the added bonus of saving Captain Kirrahe.

Kirrahe survives regardless, as I remember. Not sure if that's a bug, but he's back on the Normandy.