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Uhh.. Jonah wrote...

That is what you get for playing Leliana an Morrigan!!

I can't help myself. Why make a choice when I can have 'em both?:D

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Perfect-Kenshin wrote...
]I don't think art/style/graphics are as big as a deal as you're making it out to be. Laidaw himself said that major characters from the first game who were showing up again were going to resemble their younger selves (i.e Allistair and probably Leliana, based on one of the implied points from Laidaw) as much as possible. It's okay to change Isabela's character since she was pretty much no better than a random NPC in DAO.

Yeah but for Alistair they simply need to make a new model of Alistair. For the Warden they would need to import all the potential options for a Warden then recreate it in the new art style and hope the player fits properly.

It isn't like Bioware can make a custom model for each Warden variant.

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Perfect-Kenshin wrote...

Uhh.. Jonah wrote...

That is what you get for playing Leliana an Morrigan!!

I can't help myself. Why make a choice when I can have 'em both?:D


According to the romance flags and such, I don't think you really can have both even if you manipulate the timing of your conversations with both characters.. the game doesn't recognise that you are in love with both. And since you clearly made a decision by going through the mirror.. now you have to live with that choice for that character.

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I don't quite understand the issue; you tell Alistair that you will remain in Denerim, but then you're called away on some adventure (Witch Hunt) and, when forced to re-evaluate your plans, you instead choose to follow Morrigan. I guess Alistair and Leliana assume you're dead when you never return?

Probably, but then just what purpose does the epilogue serve? Is it just Leliana's random musings or some other form of fiction?

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Perfect-Kenshin wrote...

Maverick827 wrote...

I don't quite understand the issue; you tell Alistair that you will remain in Denerim, but then you're called away on some adventure (Witch Hunt) and, when forced to re-evaluate your plans, you instead choose to follow Morrigan. I guess Alistair and Leliana assume you're dead when you never return?

Probably, but then just what purpose does the epilogue serve? Is it just Leliana's random musings or some other form of fiction?

Not everyone has those DLCs and expansions. For those that don't most likely the epilogue will be the final say.

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Sigil_Beguiler123 wrote...

Perfect-Kenshin wrote...
]I don't think art/style/graphics are as big as a deal as you're making it out to be. Laidaw himself said that major characters from the first game who were showing up again were going to resemble their younger selves (i.e Allistair and probably Leliana, based on one of the implied points from Laidaw) as much as possible. It's okay to change Isabela's character since she was pretty much no better than a random NPC in DAO.

Yeah but for Alistair they simply need to make a new model of Alistair. For the Warden they would need to import all the potential options for a Warden then recreate it in the new art style and hope the player fits properly.

It isn't like Bioware can make a custom model for each Warden variant.

Good point. I suppose having a custom Warden model is out of the bag unless they do what KOTOR 2 did and just have the Warden wearing full body armor/clothing for some reason.

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Why should the Warden's personal love life have any affect on Hawke and DA2? I'm sure it will only be the world changing events/decisions that the Warden made that will have any impact on DA2.

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leonia42 wrote...

Perfect-Kenshin wrote...

Uhh.. Jonah wrote...

That is what you get for playing Leliana an Morrigan!!

I can't help myself. Why make a choice when I can have 'em both?:D


According to the romance flags and such, I don't think you really can have both even if you manipulate the timing of your conversations with both characters.. the game doesn't recognise that you are in love with both. And since you clearly made a decision by going through the mirror.. now you have to live with that choice for that character.

What do you mean? Officially, yes, the game doesn't recognize you have both, but I took advantage of the bug (dumping Morrigan when she asked about Leliana, giving Morrigan her mother's real grimoire and then giving her a locket to reestablish the relationship). Leliana doesn't notice that I'm two timing her and Morrigan has no clue what's going on.

Then again, how wouldn't the game be able to recognize that you never broke up with Leliana (got the full romance and everything) and ended up going through the portal with Morrigan. Seems to me that DA2 saves should easily be able to determine this.

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the Warden does matter because you sleot wiht his gf. i can see it



Isabela: I'm pregnant



Hawke: That's great



Isabela: Did I ever tell you about the Pearl



Some decisions will matter. lol

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tishyw wrote...

Why should the Warden's personal love life have any affect on Hawke and DA2? I'm sure it will only be the world changing events/decisions that the Warden made that will have any impact on DA2.

It doesn't, but it's nice to let the player see for themselves the results of their characters final decisions. Didn't the Devs say the autosaves at the end of each DLC's epilogue were to record the decisions we made so that they would  influence certain events in DA2?

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Come on, does it really matter who the Warden slept with or not? Why on Thedas would someone in the Free Marches care about that?



As for your epilogue slides, like someone else said - you said you'd do one thing, and the epilogue reflected it, but then you went and actually did something else. Assuming there was any reason at ALL to reference this (which there isn't) why would they reference the thing you didn't actually do?

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From what was stated in another thread (link below), my sense of it was, 'if there's any continuity between DA:O and DA2 and future games', it will be decided by BioWare regardless of what I thought carry over from DA:O to DA2. I suspect that most of the 'flags' passed between games will probably be meaningless or a simple footnote in DA2 and the future (and yet to be told) stories of Thedas. If some companion died and will be needed, they will return.

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I lost all my save due to virus. Will we have a choice to select what did we do before start the game?

Like ME series.

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Perfect-Kenshin wrote...
What do you mean? Officially, yes, the game doesn't recognize you have both, but I took advantage of the bug (dumping Morrigan when she asked about Leliana, giving Morrigan her mother's real grimoire and then giving her a locket to reestablish the relationship). Leliana doesn't notice that I'm two timing her and Morrigan has no clue what's going on.

Then again, how wouldn't the game be able to recognize that you never broke up with Leliana (got the full romance and everything) and ended up going through the portal with Morrigan. Seems to me that DA2 saves should easily be able to determine this.


You're not expecting DA2 to react correctly to a situation caused by a DAO bug, are you?

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If your Warden told Alistair he would stay in Denerim, yet still went through the portal, your Warden obviously lied to Alistair. Yes, it's that simple.

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Perfect-Kenshin wrote...
 Since we all know that EVERY SINGLE choice made in DAO is going to have a serious impact in DA2,


Why would romance options have any impact at all on DAII?  Can't imagine Hawke would care about who The Warden horndogged.

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leonia42 wrote...

The Bannorn will not bow to you simply because you demand it!


Just so you know, I've fallen in love with you for using this quote.

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ErichHartmann wrote...

Perfect-Kenshin wrote...
 Since we all know that EVERY SINGLE choice made in DAO is going to have a serious impact in DA2,


Why would romance options have any impact at all on DAII?  Can't imagine Hawke would care about who The Warden horndogged.

the mage warden and hawke are cousins, so yes he'll care....

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Perfect-Kenshin wrote...

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Troll thread?

Nah. This is a serious topic. The title is just an attention getter.


The Warden won't be appearing in DA2 because of the change in art style and graphics. This is confirmed. And the Warden's choices of sexual companions would hardly have any impact on the world at large I should think.

I don't think art/style/graphics are as big as a deal as you're making it out to be. Laidaw himself said that major characters from the first game who were showing up again were going to resemble their younger selves (i.e Allistair and probably Leliana, based on one of the implied points from Laidaw) as much as possible. It's okay to change Isabela's character since she was pretty much no better than a random NPC in DAO.


We already know that is Sten were ever to reappear he would have grey, scaly skin so redesigns of major characters are not only possible but entirely likely.

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See You Next Tuesday wrote...

ErichHartmann wrote...

Perfect-Kenshin wrote...
 Since we all know that EVERY SINGLE choice made in DAO is going to have a serious impact in DA2,


Why would romance options have any impact at all on DAII?  Can't imagine Hawke would care about who The Warden horndogged.

the mage warden and hawke are cousins, so yes he'll care....


Aren't they like, eighth cousins or something? I barely care about what my FIRST cousins do ...