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[vallore]

I want to start by thanking Chris Priestly and BW for this chance for us to voice our concerns, it is much appreciated.

My biggest issue is paraphrasing; I feel it affects negatively the illusion of choice and control we have over our character.



A few possible solutions:

Some have suggested elsewhere that perhaps we could read the actual answer, (or at least part of the answer), by right clicking the paraphrase.

Another option could be adding a small “scroll” icon or similar in front of the paraphrase, with the same function.

Or, if implementing full text is too impractical for the entire game, using the scroll icon just for those dialog lines that are, by their very nature, more difficult to predict accurately, (or are simply more relevant for the character or the story, and therefore should be completely clear), would still improve considerably the experience.

[ReD BaKen9]

Im worried that you might not have the same freedom as u did in dragon age: origins

[Serious Chicken]

The one thing that worries me regarding Dragon Age 2 is the same that worried me regarding Dragon Age 1:

That it would come to be a dumbed down, simplified game in comparison to previous titles, to suit a "common denominator" formula coldly calculated by some marketing executive.

While it's obvious for me that a great deal of attention to detail and a lot of good, honest work went into Dragon Age 1, there were still some aspects of it that aren't attributable to anything else than design vs commercial decisions which partially downgraded the gameplay experience for me and other who voiced their opinions on the subject for years - no auto-pause combat options, and a limited number of playable races/classes in favor of "cinematic" eye candy, being examples.

If there are some who might consider Dragon Age 1, for all the great game it is, being essentially a lite version of Baldur's Gate as far as sheer gameplay options, variety and detail go, what to make of a game - Dragon Age 2 - who is already being announced and commented on as to have even more gameplay limitations in favor of ever higher audiovisual enhancement ?

The sum of what I'm saying, I guess, would be:

PLEASE don't let Dragon Age 2 fall down as a simplified Dragon Age with pretty animations.

Thank you, Master Wade.

 

[Cribbian]

Seagloom wrote...

My greatest fear is that DA2 will be lean on character interaction given its shorter length and voiced protagonist. The "Mass Effect" games had few unique dialogues which led to much of the cast coming across as underdeveloped. Will party members have as much breadth and depth as in Origins, or is DA2 closer to the "Mass Effect" series or "Awakening"?

this one

[Hamarabi2006]

Concern:

• The button-mashing combat is what I dislike the most. Or is it "click-click-click" "hack-n-slash" combat?

Request:

• Show us how the game tactics and strategy will look, feel, and play!
  

I am sorry to say this, but after viewing the combat game-play in your videos I had completely lost interested in DA2.  My concern is that the combat is too much like "God of War" or some other button mashing real-time fighter game which I do not care for. Personally, I prefer the more cerebral old-school pause-and-play tactics and strategy of "Origins" which is one of my all time favorites (I bought 3 standard and 1 collectors edition).

I am a passionate and enthusiastic RPG/Strategy gamer (primarily PC, though I own all the latest consoles and handhelds), yet DA2 does not look to be my cup of tea. 

On the other hand, Mass Effect 1 and 2 are much more action-oriented and are of the shooter variety (one of my least favorite genres), yet they both make my "all time favorite list"  (Mass Effect 2 being very near the top, due to possessing many other phenomenal strengths).  The difference is that neither of those games are button mashers, even though they have faster paced combat.

I despise button mashing so much that I do not think I could play your game even if everything else was amazing.  The combat would be too boring for me to endure in order to get to the good parts.

I realize that the more action-oriented button mashing game-play of "Dragon Age 2" is popular and I wish for your company to reap a whirlwind of profits from your efforts, but I am just not your targeted audience.  The only reason I leave this comment is because I care about the direction you are taking and just hope that in the future you won't leave us old timers out in the cold.  FYI, I would have bought "Dragon Age: Origins 2" in a heartbeat.

P.S.  I found this topic on another forum and decided to follow the link and share my 2 copper on the subject.

 

Modifié par Hamarabi2006, 28 novembre 2010 - 11:50 .

[brightblueink]

Most of the things people are worried about actually don't concern me too much (partially because I'm primarily a console player, and partially because my favorite genre is JRPGs, which typically have much less choice than something like Mass Effect does), but one thing that DOES concern me is the tone advertising seems to be taking for the game, and whether or not it truly reflects what the game is like.

To be honest, I actually only started playing Dragon Age a few weeks ago, although my brother had bought the game not too long after it came out. The main reason is because of the advertising for the previous game--although I had played several Bioware games in the past and adored them all, the tone for the advertising of the game led me to believe that Dragon Age: Origins' story would be light and focused more on bloody action scenes than anything else. (The blood-splattered logo didn't help at all.) It wasn't until a friend of mine started discussing Morrigan's character arc with me and I looked up some videos on YouTube that I realized I'd been mistaken, and that Dragon Age's story was as rich as what I'd come to expect from Bioware games. (I realize that there were some trailers that did things like introduce the characters, but I managed to miss these until recently.)

I know that the stereotypical "manly gamer" is a pretty key demographic to pick up on these days if you want your game to be a hit, so I understand why this is the case, but I've been pretty dismayed to see that the advertisement for the new game so far--at least what I've seen--seems to be focusing once again on "badasses", bloody action scenes, and little else. Marketing lines like "press a button and something awesome happens" and "grimmer, bloodier, sexier" do nothing but make me cringe. If it wasn't for the fact that I've been playing Dragon Age: Origins and realize now how good the writing and depth of the game truly is, I'd probably do the same thing as last time and assume that the game is only for the blood-soaked, hardcore action crowd, instead of someone like me that wants more of a focus on depth and story. I guess that means I'm with the crowd that would like to have confirmation that we're not sacrificing too much for the changes made to the game--although considering how Bioware's proven themselves to me in the past, I'm not as concerned as others might be. I'm more worried that others like me might be driven away by the current advertising and hype.

(As an aside, I would like to say that I appreciate greatly that an effort has been made to make the gameplay work better on the console versions, since I've definitely been having some trouble figuring out how to make my party move strategically and from what I've seen in videos of the PC gameplay it works much smoother on the PC. I do hope that the PC isn't gimped too much for fans of that platform, though.)

Modifié par brightblueink, 28 novembre 2010 - 08:47 .

[Indoctrination]

I am concerned about the length of the game.

I really hate how games are becoming shorter and shorter with advancements in technology. I was really, really pleased with Dragon Age: Origins, an adventure which typically lasts me around 45 around per playthrough. I felt like I got so much value out of that game. I remember reading somewhere that Dragon Age 2 would be around 20-25 hours and my heart kind of broke a little. I'd really appreciate it if a developer could give an honest estimate of the game's length.

(No Dr. Zeschuk, 100 hours is not an honest estimate.)

[J-Reyno]

Well I have two worries off the top of my head.  But since we're only supposed to have one I'm just going to put up these quotes since they more or less describe my primary concern:

Seagloom wrote...

My greatest fear is that DA2 will be lean on character interaction given its shorter length and voiced protagonist. The "Mass Effect" games had few unique dialogues which led to much of the cast coming across as underdeveloped. Will party members have as much breadth and depth as in Origins, or is DA2 closer to the "Mass Effect" series or "Awakening"?

Xayasha wrote...

I'm worried that characters won't be as deeply developed as in Origins because of lack of time/interest.

I loved the character interactions and relationships in DA:O.  It was amazing, and I want DAII to live up to the standard.

[UltraBoy360]

Midey77 wrote...

Lack of s/s romances. I really enjoyed them in DA:O.

This is honestly my main concern - not sure I'll be seeing it addressed in a video any time soon though. I'll just keep my fingers crossed.

[Noiko]

My only concern is that the game might being rushed.



A true sequel, like Mass Effect 2 was, took at least 2 and a half years of development.



Dragon Age Origins was released in November 2009 if im not mistaken. So that means if you guys started creating the game right away, you only had 1 year and 5 months. That seems so short for a RPG.



I've read somewhere that DA2 is being developed since March 2009, not sure if that's true cause we all know Bioware had 2 years of DLC's planned for Origins so it doesnt make much sense to me.

[KIrving]

I also want to lend my support to the inclusion of same sex romances.



I have a lot of concerns about DA2. However, my greatest concern is that the direction of the marketing leads me to fear that the female pc play through and specific content (love interests etc.) will be underdeveloped and inadequately tested.

[TMZuk]

After having read through this thread, I simply has to comment upon the many same sex comments. If I am in violation of some rule or something, please sue me, because enough is enough.

We are discussing a video-game, not your romantic or sexual future.

I have NO problems with gays, lesbians, hedonists or whatever. Anything between consenting adults is fine in my book. However, to have the possible lack of same sex romances as your BIGGEST worry about a game about to be released is simply to ridiculous for words. You want same sex romance? You want sex of any kind? Get your butt of that chair and go out and meet someone.

What's next? "I'm into S/M, and if I can't tie up and whip my gf/bf in the game, I won't buy it!" For crying out loud, leave it alone already. Place some comments about gameplay, character-depth, lenght of game or other RELEVANT stuff instead!

[online blowfish]

I'm with The Red Menace.

[ErichHartmann]

TMZuk wrote...

After having read through this thread, I simply has to comment upon the many same sex comments. If I am in violation of some rule or something, please sue me, because enough is enough.

We are discussing a video-game, not your romantic or sexual future.

I have NO problems with gays, lesbians, hedonists or whatever. Anything between consenting adults is fine in my book. However, to have the possible lack of same sex romances as your BIGGEST worry about a game about to be released is simply to ridiculous for words. You want same sex romance? You want sex of any kind? Get your butt of that chair and go out and meet someone.

What's next? "I'm into S/M, and if I can't tie up and whip my gf/bf in the game, I won't buy it!" For crying out loud, leave it alone already. Place some comments about gameplay, character-depth, lenght of game or other RELEVANT stuff instead!

It is a relevant comment about character depth and gameplay.  All you do is troll about how bad DAII is going to be. Give it a rest.   

[.shea.]

TMZuk wrote...

Place some comments about gameplay, character-depth, lenght of game or other RELEVANT stuff instead!

Then place some comments of your own about those issues, don't try to tell others what they should be worried about.

[TMZuk]

Chouan wrote...

TMZuk wrote...

Place some comments about gameplay, character-depth, lenght of game or other RELEVANT stuff instead!

Then place some comments of your own about those issues, don't try to tell others what they should be worried about.

If you bother to read through the thread, you'll note I have posted my worries, thank you very much.

[Atakuma]

Edit: Not worth it.

Modifié par Atakuma, 28 novembre 2010 - 10:03 .

[Stinkface27]

I am worried that DA2 will be overly streamlined, that Bioware will choose to have less dialog and less options because they don't think many people will select them. To me, that is one of the main things that made Dragon Age so interesting. As you were playing, you were constantly wondering what would have happened should you have chosen to do or say something else. Not only did it make you feel like you were carving out your character with every choice you made, but it also gave the game huge re-playability. So many of us play the game again and again specifically to find those things that you may have thought about cutting from the game.

[Selerz]

I'm wondering how linear it will be.

[HopHazzard]

TMZuk wrote...

After having read through this thread, I simply has to comment upon the many same sex comments. If I am in violation of some rule or something, please sue me, because enough is enough.

We are discussing a video-game, not your romantic or sexual future.

I have NO problems with gays, lesbians, hedonists or whatever. Anything between consenting adults is fine in my book. However, to have the possible lack of same sex romances as your BIGGEST worry about a game about to be released is simply to ridiculous for words. You want same sex romance? You want sex of any kind? Get your butt of that chair and go out and meet someone.

What's next? "I'm into S/M, and if I can't tie up and whip my gf/bf in the game, I won't buy it!" For crying out loud, leave it alone already. Place some comments about gameplay, character-depth, lenght of game or other RELEVANT stuff instead!

We know the game will feature romances. I don't think it's a little deal for people to wonder if they'll be forced to role play a character of the opposite gender if they want to romance a character they're actually interested in. And I know that the romances are not the point of the game, but they do add depth to the LI's and the PC and allow for a multitude of role-playing options and they've been an important aspect of BioWare games for a long time. Again I say, if I had any concerns about gameplay, length, story, etc. I would voice them. But I don't. I'm quite happy with what I've seen so far. What I'm worried about are role-playing options and how strongly I'll be able to connect to my character.

[Isaidlunch]

TMZuk wrote...

After having read through this thread, I simply has to comment upon the many same sex comments. If I am in violation of some rule or something, please sue me, because enough is enough.

We are discussing a video-game, not your romantic or sexual future.

I have NO problems with gays, lesbians, hedonists or whatever. Anything between consenting adults is fine in my book. However, to have the possible lack of same sex romances as your BIGGEST worry about a game about to be released is simply to ridiculous for words. You want same sex romance? You want sex of any kind? Get your butt of that chair and go out and meet someone.

What's next? "I'm into S/M, and if I can't tie up and whip my gf/bf in the game, I won't buy it!" For crying out loud, leave it alone already. Place some comments about gameplay, character-depth, lenght of game or other RELEVANT stuff instead!

You don't think romances are important, that's perfectly fine. But that doesn't mean you can jump in this thread and call everyone who wants them a loser who can't get "any" in the real world. And you seem to think all of us just play through S-S romance arcs for the sex scenes. Couldn't be further from the truth (as if anyone would enjoy the rigid and PG-rated DA:O sex scenes anyway).

Comparing S-S romance arcs to sex scenes that involve S&M is completely ridiculous. Besides, what's the point in commenting on things that have already been mentioned over and over again? Others have covered them well enough.

Modifié par Kazanth, 28 novembre 2010 - 10:14 .

[JrayM16]

TMZuk wrote...

After having read through this thread, I simply has to comment upon the many same sex comments. If I am in violation of some rule or something, please sue me, because enough is enough.

We are discussing a video-game, not your romantic or sexual future.

I have NO problems with gays, lesbians, hedonists or whatever. Anything between consenting adults is fine in my book. However, to have the possible lack of same sex romances as your BIGGEST worry about a game about to be released is simply to ridiculous for words. You want same sex romance? You want sex of any kind? Get your butt of that chair and go out and meet someone.

What's next? "I'm into S/M, and if I can't tie up and whip my gf/bf in the game, I won't buy it!" For crying out loud, leave it alone already. Place some comments about gameplay, character-depth, lenght of game or other RELEVANT stuff instead!

You do realize that you have just derailed the only thread with consistent positive criticism for DA2 that has existed in a long time?  It's not even that I entirely disagree with your points, but you have opened a can of worms which will invariably unleash flamewars upon unsuspecting threads.  This thread was Bioware's attempt to reach out to the community, and if the chain reaction provoked by your post continues as it usually does, that effort will be destroyed.  Not to mention your last paragraph, which only makes the problem worse.

I hope you're happy.

[catabuca]

Although I'm sure this will change as we get closer to the release date, the main thing that worries me about DA2 (aside from fears of no f/f m/m romances) is that there will be a lack of armour for team mates and that it will induce the same cringing, incredulous response in me that watching Miranda/Jack et al soak up endless damage and amazingly survive in a vacuum in ME2 did.
I guess in the grand scheme of things that's not such a huge worry, but it is a worry nonetheless.



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edit: Having actually read most of this thread now, just want to say many of other people's worries are shared by me: mainly, lack of s/s romance and sacrifice of depth of story and consequence. So this is a kind of +1 for those, just so it's known there's one more person thinking the same thing.

Modifié par catabuca, 28 novembre 2010 - 11:25 .

[Whipsnap10]

What im worried about is DA2 not giving the epic feeling that DAO did, like when Morrigan left at the end, my Wardens romance, I actually felt for my Warden. Like someone had actually lost someone, also when Duncan died i felt for him too. I have a bad feeling that DA2 will not grab your emotions as good as DAO did. I would also love it if the companions were as good as DAO aswell, they all had a different opinion on every decision which put pressure on you when you finally chose what to do.