Naming Alliance Carriers
#26
Posté 27 novembre 2010 - 12:42
#27
Posté 27 novembre 2010 - 12:53
#28
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Posté 27 novembre 2010 - 12:54
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#29
Posté 27 novembre 2010 - 01:03
#30
Posté 27 novembre 2010 - 01:08
#31
Posté 27 novembre 2010 - 01:16
SSV Gregor Mendel
SSV Sir Arthur Curry
SSV Charles Darwin
SSV Thomas Edison
SSV Nikolai Tesla
SSV Aristotle
SSV Louis Pasteur
SSV Galileo Galilei
SSV Epicurius
#32
Posté 27 novembre 2010 - 03:51
SSV Kepler
SSV Archimedes
SSV Nobel
SSV Gauss
SSV Faust
SSV Hippocrates
SSV Ohm
*named some of the greatest men in history, although Ohm sounds terrible i belive he deserves one too
#33
Posté 27 novembre 2010 - 06:00
SDCrush wrote...
ninsegtari wrote...
Benjamin Franklin
John Tyler (10th president; most constitutionalist president)
Grover Cleveland (22nd and 24th president; second-most constitutionalist president)
Sun Tzu (assuming he even existed)
Ludwig Von Mises
Dwight Eisonhower (for work as general not as president)
George Patton
*The SSV Penn & Teller would be funny
Are you joking? Penn & Teller would fit right in with that list. Your choices are three American presidents (only one of whom had any significance on history whatsoever), an economist whose only noteworthy attribute was that he was libertarian, a guy whose VERY EXISTENCE you are unsure of, and two American generals. I love Patton, but he's more noteworthy for his attitude than his achievements. At least Eisenhower was a supreme commander. The OP seems very much like you trying to make an excuse to say "go libertarians." I don't think this is the right place to make (thinly veiled) threads for political discussion.
thompsmt's list, as noted, is a pretty good place to start. Although I don't agree with all the choices, it's mostly quality. A few suggestions:
Adam Smith
Karl Marx
Franklin D. Roosevelt
Isaac Asimov (not sure about writers, but if you nominate Heinlein/Orwell, you need Asimov)
Muhammad Ali (IMO, the greatest of the great athletes are serious inspirations)
--I went with Ali after considering Babe Ruth and Lou Gehrig, but I could be swayed.
Speaking as an American, I'd like to see Washington and Jefferson on a list like this for their roles in creating this country, but I'm not sure how much bearing that has on an outsiders' version of worldwide historical significance.
I wasn't trying to make this a political discussion, nor was I trying to say "go libertarians". I mentioned that I was libertarian as a full disclosure statement. Plus when I wrote the OP I hadn't had a list of people prepared so I just picked people I liked. But if we're going to make a political discussion out of this, why should Karl Marx be celebrated? He basically invented communism and that's hardly something that should be celebrated.
I agree with other posters that politicians shouldn't be used (regional and mixed perective). It's the same sort of thing with economists, if you agree with them they're great but if you disagree then they suck. Better to use scientists and philosophers.
More Ideas:
Daniel Fahrenheit
Anders Celcius
Stephen Hawking
Louis Pasteur
Jonas Salk
#34
Posté 27 novembre 2010 - 06:30
>__>
#35
Posté 27 novembre 2010 - 06:49
ninsegtari wrote...
I wasn't trying to make this a political discussion, nor was I trying to say "go libertarians". I mentioned that I was libertarian as a full disclosure statement. Plus when I wrote the OP I hadn't had a list of people prepared so I just picked people I liked. But if we're going to make a political discussion out of this, why should Karl Marx be celebrated? He basically invented communism and that's hardly something that should be celebrated.
Because by the standards of the 1840s we all live in deeply socialist countries and if you look at the way the Republicans were unable to change Social Security or made themselves the champions of Medicare, well, people would have called you insane in the mid-19th century for that stuff.
Philosophers' ideas seldomly survive first contact with reality, the question is how much their ideas shift the way the rest of the world looks at things.
I like the idea of using philosophers, more than scientists actually.
SSV Karl Marx
SSV Jean-Jacques Rousseau
SSV Thomas Jefferson
SSV Thomas of Aquin
SSV Immanuel Kant
SSV Thomas Paine
SSV Francisco Suarez
Not selected by importance but just going for names I like. (especially the Kant and the Paine =P )
But it won't happen anyway. No nation will support the choices of the others on what constitutes an "important historical figure" so the ships will be named after any politician who got the Navy the money to build another carrier. That's just the way it is.
#36
Posté 27 novembre 2010 - 07:59
nutshell43 wrote...
But it won't happen anyway. No nation will support the choices of the others on what constitutes an "important historical figure" so the ships will be named after any politician who got the Navy the money to build another carrier. That's just the way it is.
In terms of reality, sure, that would be what would happen. But in the game, BioWare wouldn't do that.
We already have one carrier named as the SSV Einstein, so unless there was another Einstein who came forward with the cash to build the carrier, we can assume it was named for Albert.
I can see some philosophers being chosen, but again, they'd have to be relatively impartial. Kant and Rousseau are benign enough. But if you move toward Marx, Nietsche or Aquinas, you start getting into the realm of possible offensiveness due to their socio-political or religious conotations.
#37
Posté 27 novembre 2010 - 08:07
#38
Posté 27 novembre 2010 - 08:12
SSV Ganj gondola
SSV Dutch dutchman
SSV thug aim
Legitimately....
SSV Ghandi
#39
Posté 27 novembre 2010 - 08:22
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And his Magic Murder Bag
#40
Posté 27 novembre 2010 - 08:33
#41
Posté 27 novembre 2010 - 08:53
SSV Churchill (Winston Churchill)
SSV Gorbachev (Mr Gorbachev tear down this wall!)
SSV Mandela (Nelson Mandela)
SSV Polo (Marco Polo)
SSV Abd al-Muttalib (first leader of the Abbasid Empire)
SSV Ashoka (Ancient Indian ((as in the subcontinent of Asia)) leader)
SSV Kennedy
SSV Bolivar
#42
Posté 27 novembre 2010 - 08:58
#43
Posté 28 novembre 2010 - 04:05
#44
Posté 28 novembre 2010 - 04:39
Stephen Colbert is a legend.
#45
Posté 28 novembre 2010 - 06:48
Zatwu wrote...
SSV Colbert.
Bioware need to get on this, STAT.
#46
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Posté 28 novembre 2010 - 06:54
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#47
Posté 28 novembre 2010 - 08:24
#48
Posté 28 novembre 2010 - 08:35
#49
Posté 28 novembre 2010 - 09:28
jojon2se wrote...
Why are people, in some cases, suggesting naming warships after pacifists? Somehow I don't think they'd fully appreciate the honour. :9
Yeah, guess that wouldn't go down well. Although may help keep the navy's conscience strong. Still far too much irony
Also one of the best scientists of this generation: SSV Stephen J. Gould
#50
Posté 28 novembre 2010 - 09:29
No, just no. The guy was a terrible leader as well as being a sociopathMr. California wrote...
What abou Hitler? dude ruled one of the greatest empires of our egsistance





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