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Robin Theberge Talks DA 2 w/ Eurogamer


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#101
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Perhaps they mean that when I press a button, it won't disconnect me from the Dragon Age Servers every 5 minutes like the first game did (no matter what changes I made to my firewall). That'd be pretty awesome. /sarcasm



Seriously, marketing's a part of any big game, but I'm not sure I'm part of the demographic of this game if they're targetting people who'd fall for a line like that.

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Maria Caliban wrote...

She says you can play as a male or female Hawke.

"In Dragon Age 2, you play the story of Hawke during his or her rise to power."


I guess I misheard her. In that case, strike that part. Still a pointless video though.

Modifié par Seagloom, 27 novembre 2010 - 11:47 .


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Atakuma wrote...

I Have to say, DA2 has very lousy marketing.

* "You press a button - something awesome happens!"
* "Think like a general, but fight like a Spartan."

Both of these Are Terrible


Yes they are, but it's true in a way. Bioware are enchancing the combat, but are still keeping the tactics for us :D

#104
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I feel sorry for her. I'm sure she realizes how ridiculous everything sounds.

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Brockololly wrote...

My favorite quote from all this HOT ROD SAMURAI! nonsense was from Matt Goldman in the PC Gamer DA2 article :

Hmm i somehow missed that article, and it has this little gem inside:

It was pretty hard to tell elves and humans apart, so we’ve done a lot of work to make them different from one another.

Uh-oh.

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simfamSP wrote...

Atakuma wrote...

I Have to say, DA2 has very lousy marketing.

* "You press a button - something awesome happens!"
* "Think like a general, but fight like a Spartan."

Both of these Are Terrible


Yes they are, but it's true in a way. Bioware are enchancing the combat, but are still keeping the tactics for us :D


We hope.

And the marketing was terrible for Dragon Age Origins too... well, it was to us.  Seemed to have worked on the common folk though, so I guess it was actually awesome marketing.  Maybe this is too, how the hell would I know?

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Kail Ashton wrote...

GodWood wrote...

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I remember in my experience ME2 was pretty much anticipated happily in unison no matter the site.

I take it you never went on the ME2 forums then


lol how cute, you things think you're better than the me2 group? you're both filled equally with winey hipster brats who don't know jack about anything but won't ever let that stop you from crying endlessly over every little thing

"oh so and so is ugly by a completely diffrent relm of standards, oh i hate this despite knowing nothing of it, oh this is gonna be bad, oh bioware doesn't care, oh i know everything bout game development despite being an armchair developer" see? i just summarized this entire threads worth of posts. Now go compare it to ANY ME2 thread and see the mirror like effect, it's mind boggling hey?


This year's award for "Most Sarcastic Quote on BW Forum" goes to this guy..

#108
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I found this woman really pretty.



...But I started to ignore her once Hawke's hawtness appeared and Isafeia too. Anyway, didn't add much to what I already knew.

#109
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It looks very nice,and the game too.

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And... I'm the only one silly enough to keep playing the "Touch a button and watch something awesome happen" again and again and again and again?

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At least they havn't started saying 'emotionally engaging' yet.

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It's the dark second chapter.

#113
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Have people ever considered what it means to have to explain a complex feature to an audience that may be unfamiliar with it? It's not something easy it all - you would need to demonstrate the feature in detail and explain it as you're doing so. Given the length of these publicity spots, you're likely only getting one feature to explain, like the inventory podcast focused only on that.

What happens if Joe New Fan looks at your commercial and happens not to care about this feature? Ignores the game. Stupid over-the-top marketing is designed to funnel people to information sources. Whether that is effective or not, we'll see.

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i am wondering if the awsomness from clicking a button is related to the on/off button on the pc/console ahahahaha

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Bah I am looking forward to playing my mage with the emphasis of thinking like a Spartan and fightiing like a General. That way everytime I do press a button something awesome will happen, because that is what happens when Generals fight. Much more so than when Spartans fight whilst thinking like Generals.

As for the phrasing, It could be worse, it could be all about...

"Kicking ass with the Force" *shudders at the cringeworthy phrase used often for TFU and TFU2 by LA devs.. and to some extent in regards the Jedi class in SWG when they did the NGE*

I doubt we'll hear anything new till January at earliest and even then we'll still get the re-hashed line about 'Thinking like a General, fighting like a Spartan' and all the other stuff, Marketing is most likely never going to change in that regards.

Can't remember at the moment what the DAO ones were (other than the obvious song reference) but it had them as well IIRC

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Maria Caliban wrote...

It's the dark second chapter.

Dark and sexy. Oh, and bloody, too.

Modifié par tmp7704, 27 novembre 2010 - 01:31 .


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Sir Ulrich Von Lichenstien wrote...

Bah I am looking forward to playing my mage with the emphasis of thinking like a Spartan and fightiing like a General. That way everytime I do press a button something awesome will happen, because that is what happens when Generals fight. Much more so than when Spartans fight whilst thinking like Generals.


You do realise that usually Generals don't fight.

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Revan312 wrote..

Mostly I chalk it up to BW not showing jack all about the actual game.. Seriously, this close to the end of the dev cycle and we have a couple leaked gameplay vids from "old build" demos that "don't represent actual gameplay", some screenshots, some very basic info aaannnddd that's about it..


But the builds do represent actual gameplay. Just not on the PC. If you're going to criticize Bioware, at least nail them on what hey're doing wrong (i.e. ignoring PC gameplay).

Bioware has to start releasing info soon along with a larger marketing push during the holidays or else I forsee this game doing far worse on sales than BW hopes.  Most AAA titles at this stage in the game have numerous gameplay vids and in-depth previews. People are jonsing for some real information rather than the thousanth utterance of "press a button and something awesome happens". Plus the changes announced are fairly drastic for a sequal and yet peoples fears haven't been waylayed by BW showing and telling.


The changes from DA:O to DA:2 are on the whole not that different from the changes from TW to TW2, so we have precedent for this sort of change in a AAA RPG release right now.

That aside, Bioware does not release gameplay footage that easily. They did the same thing with DA:O.

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tmp7704 wrote...

Maria Caliban wrote...

It's the dark second chapter.

Dark and sexy. Oh, and bloody, too.


***Bad Maria***

Modifié par Maria Caliban, 27 novembre 2010 - 01:58 .


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Schuback wrote...
You do realise that usually Generals don't fight.


George Patton just pulled out his revolver and personally shot a few rounds at this post.

"Fight like a gladiator, think like a corporal" probably didn't have the same ring to it, anyway.

... and "Fight like Lieutenant Patton, think like General Patton" would have just been too obscure.

Modifié par Upsettingshorts, 27 novembre 2010 - 02:06 .


#121
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The cringing. Make it stop.


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Bio Addict wrote...

I'd rather think like a philosopher and fight like a Theben.

And when I press a button I think I'd like something sexual to happen instead of something awesome.


I like your thinking.

#123
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So we wern't even thrown a second of new footage, thats harsh man :L

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Oh....I totally feel empathy for them Errant. I work for a company with a marketing department like EA's myself.....but according to almost all the devs here marketing is not as intrusive as I could imagine given my personal experience.



Don't know what to make of it but I'll always take everything they say "****** grano salis"

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* New artstyle "It's grimmer. It's bloodier. It's sexier."
* "You press a button - something awesome happens!"
* "Think like a general, but fight like a Spartan."

 



Desire to tear eyes out increasing! 

You know what's less irritating than Bioware's PR? Teletubbies, that's what. I wish I were 11-16 year old horny male. I'd slide nicely in the middle of marketing demographic  and thus fail to find all of this incredibly ****ing stupid. Would mean skin problems though:(

Modifié par LTD, 27 novembre 2010 - 02:20 .