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[dahle]

Finished the Raedcliffe Castle quest, connor dies, is buried and there is only Isolde and sleeping Arl Eamon..where is the first potal to the fade?
Thanks

[cJohnOne]

Did you talk to Jowan?

[Liliandra Nadiar]

If Connor's dead you don't go into the Fade. The Fade's one of the alternate endings for Redcliff.

[dahle]

Thank you!

[Erika T]

In my opinion, it's much better to kill Connor than go into the Fade.



1. Much much more XP

2. Much much less hassle

3. If you do the right dialogue you can get Isolde to kill him - no approval loss from party members

4. you get the vault key from the chamberlain - xp and loot.

[GlassDeviant]

You mean you haven't already picked the vault lock and robbed that old fool blind before even contemplating whether to off his brat or save him?

[Erika T]

You cannot pick the vault lock I think (need to double check though). I think you can only open with the chamberlains key...

[Elhanan]

Erika T wrote...

In my opinion, it's much better to kill Connor than go into the Fade.

1. Much much more XP
2. Much much less hassle
3. If you do the right dialogue you can get Isolde to kill him - no approval loss from party members
4. you get the vault key from the chamberlain - xp and loot.

But with high Coersion, a Mage Warden gains a free tome good for an added spell. And the vault is good for 50 xp per lockpick visit.

[Erika T]

I realised in the mean time that you CAN get the vault even if you go to the fade. simply kill the chamberlain first and get his key. you can always get the vault once connor is cured. hmmmm

Elhanan is right re free tome, that is something worth considering

[mondotomhead]

I've played through Redcliff more than a dozen times. Who is the Chamberlain and what vault are you all talking about?



This time I think I will kill Connor. I HATE the fade............

[caradoc2000]

mondotomhead wrote...

I've played through Redcliff more than a dozen times. Who is the Chamberlain and what vault are you all talking about?

The Vault is in the upper flloor of the Castle (near the Arl's chambers). It has several lootable containers. You can get the key from the chamberlain (in a small room at the main floor near where the armors attack you). You can only loot the vault before you deal with Connor.

[mondotomhead]

Thanks caradoc.



Like I said I've played this game many times and I continue to find out different things every time I play.

[IanPolaris]

You can also pick the Vault Door, but it's very, very hard. You have to be a Cunning Rogue with superlative lockpicking (best I figure, the effective Lockpick score for that vault is about 125 to 150 which pretty much means a maxxed out Lelianna or a PC Cunning Rogue) but it can be picked.



-Polaris

[IanPolaris]

caradoc2000 wrote...

mondotomhead wrote...

I've played through Redcliff more than a dozen times. Who is the Chamberlain and what vault are you all talking about?

The Vault is in the upper flloor of the Castle (near the Arl's chambers). It has several lootable containers. You can get the key from the chamberlain (in a small room at the main floor near where the armors attack you). You can only loot the vault before you deal with Connor.

This is untrue.  You can pick the vault (see my post above...it is very, very hard but possible esp for a Cunning Dagger-rogue) even after you've dealt with Conner one way or the other.  What you can not do is loot the Vault after you awaken Arl Eamon (I think).

-Polaris

[caradoc2000]

I didn't say you can't pick the vault, I just stated where you can get the key. The chamberlain is on your way upstairs anyway, so why not pick up the key.



Sorry, if the latter part was ambiguous - to me you only conclude the Connor questline when you awaken Eamon.

[mondotomhead]

I tried doing it this way this time. I killed the chamberlain (I've never been able to open that particular door before) and worked my way upstairs looting the whole way. I literally ran into Connor and had the massive fight with him. After I defeated Connor Isolde showed up and was wailing so pitifully to save Connor I almost reloaded. It was truly awful her begging for his life! Then she pulled out a knife and killed him herself. I had to stop playing for a little while to decide what to do but I continued on. At camp Alistair made me feel even worse and lost 7 approval points with him. Since I've never played that particular senario I just left things as they were. But, YIKES, that was painful!

[BlazingSpeed]

mondotomhead wrote...

I tried doing it this way this time. I killed the chamberlain (I've never been able to open that particular door before) and worked my way upstairs looting the whole way. I literally ran into Connor and had the massive fight with him. After I defeated Connor Isolde showed up and was wailing so pitifully to save Connor I almost reloaded. It was truly awful her begging for his life! Then she pulled out a knife and killed him herself. I had to stop playing for a little while to decide what to do but I continued on. At camp Alistair made me feel even worse and lost 7 approval points with him. Since I've never played that particular senario I just left things as they were. But, YIKES, that was painful!

lol is the murder weapon standard issue in Ferelden?

[Ferretinabun]

Only lost 7 approval from Alistair? I didn't know that was possible. You must have him wrapped round your finger. I've never been able to make him lose any less that 20, and if you're insensitive with him you can lose something in the 40's.

[mondotomhead]

One time, when in camp talking to Alistair about his virginity and I picked the wrong answer and lost 100 approval points! I'll never forget it. I reloaded right away.

[Aelor_EA]

Not going into the fade because it's more experience point? Where's the Role Playing factor there huh? Each their own game of course, but I usually try to choose the "right thing" as much as possible . And I actually felt good about chosing for the child's life ... I mean, saving him.

[USArmyParatrooper]

Aelor_EA wrote...

Not going into the fade because it's more experience point? Where's the Role Playing factor there huh? Each their own game of course, but I usually try to choose the "right thing" as much as possible . And I actually felt good about chosing for the child's life ... I mean, saving him.

I always feel compelled to play the good guy as well. But what I like about DA is there are many gray areas just like real life. It is reasonable to conclude that many more people could die by letting the kid live. While you're off gathering support from the circle how many more demons can he summon? How many more innocent villiagers might pay the price?

Alternatively you can sacrifice his mother using blood magic but then that's another gray area in itself. Many times there is no wrong answer, so the question is left to... what would you do in that situation? 

[Phantom.Brave10]

How come you're able to kill the Chamberlain? :S I never saw him. D:

[Elhanan]

He is in a small room with other Undead guarded by another larger room full of animated statues; all found near Teagan and Isolde.

[HolyAvenger]

After the talk with Isolde/Teagan/Jowan I always clean out the rest of the castle up till the room Connor is hiding in. There's really nice loot upstairs.

[ColaQueen]

I'm surprised people haven't encountered the chamberlain. As soon as you start to walk out the castle you get attacked by the armour guys and the door pops open. Maybe it's just my game or the way Alistair smells lol