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[Aermas]

 As it stands only one of five companions have been said to actually where armor (Aveline, David Gaider let it slip). This concerns me as I like realistic simulation inside the game world. It hurts my brain to see someone in shorts & a tank top soak 5000 damage & not be phased.

I have worn armor myself, plate,chain & ridged leather, & have fought unarmored. I can tell you that armor can flat out stop most attacks from becoming injuries, & that only chain will effect your balance to any noticeable degree. I have seen a man do a backflip in plate, it's really not at all cumbersome. Another think is that leather is a great armor for those that don't want to wear plate. Ridged leather is as hard as wood & fits so comfortably that you can forget you are wearing it. I can tell that fighting unarmed is no different than fighting armored except you have the added protection.

Knowing all this it doesn't make sense that none of the companions seem to want to wear armor.

Modifié par Aermas, 03 décembre 2010 - 07:48 .

[David Gaider]

Atakuma wrote...
Exactly. I just dont understand all this selective realism.

Because it makes some people feel better to denounce something they don't like as being objectively unrealistic than to simply say that it's beyond the realm of what they personally are willing to accept in a game.

[David Gaider]

BrotherWarth wrote...
That's a cop out. In all fantastical settings like DA and the like there is a certain amount of suspension of disbelief that's just a given. Yes, monsters are not real. Yes, trees don't come alive. Yes, people can't turn into shadows. But there is a point where you must make things believable in the context of the world. A sword-and-shield warrior wearing an apron and pants into every battle is not believable. Saying "Well you bought dragons and orcs, why not a woman fighting armed, armored men with no pants or armor on?" is ridiculous in and of itself.

But that "certain amount of suspension of disbelief" varies according to one's personal preferences, and don't pretend that there's some set bar even across fantastical settings -- that's not so. There's nothing wrong with saying there are some things you prefer and/or are used to, but trying to claim that something that's just a convention in some fantastical settings as more realistic than other conventions is silly-- we also have people taking multiple hits from massive weapons and walking away after combat, which is downright unrealistic even ignoring the many other arbitrary yet accepted standards that people are willing to accept in a game world.

And that "sword-and-shield warrior" doesn't wear an apron and pants into every battle. We've already said she gets armour, and she does so fairly quickly. Not that I'd care if she didn't, so long as the convention was consistent within the game, but evidently you do.

[David Gaider]

Nerevar-as wrote...
It wouldn´t be that bad if this had started on Origins. It didn´t, and no matter how much BW seem to make less of that game (at least I´m getting that impression), the setting is established with warriors using armors.

How the armor looks in the game is an issue of style, and is changing along with many other things. We're not making less of DAO, but we are indeed changing our approach with regards to presentation. Either you're willing to give it a chance or you're not-- deal with it or move on.

[David Gaider]

AlexXIV wrote...
There is too much assuming going on here and I really think you take this whole topic too serious. I don't think any dev confirmed that there is no heavy armor at all. I am sure there is, just like in DA:O.

I think people conjure worst-case scenarios in their head-- and when they bring them up they get angry about the possibility, and the more they're discussed the more people begin to assume that must be the way we're doing it...  especially if we don't rush right in and clarify, not that some people are keen to listen anyhow since they object to the concept in principle. But there you go.

[David Gaider]

AlanC9 wrote...
Anyone else noticed that we've seen a lot of this sort of thing lately? Poster puts up something that he doesn't actually mean because it sounds more important than what he does actually mean, someone calls him on it, and the thread degenerates. The behavior seems to be associated with the DA2 skeptics. I guess because they really want to have their points noticed.

There is lip service paid to the idea by some posters that they're trying to be persuasive and actually convince others of their points, but evidence would indicate that isn't really the case.

The strange part is that anyone who's paying attention knows that this not only doesn't work on Bio staff, it's counterproductive. Even I can't match Gaider when he's in full contempt mode, which is all the response that this kind of rhetoric gets you.

**FULL CONTEMPT MODE ACTIVATED**

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