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#1
Kidd

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This is my first playthrough of the game (yes, I'm very late to the party, quite aware), and I just finished the Landsmeet. I made Alistair king since I trust him and his good heart a whole lot more than Anora, and... then he dumps me!?

I just can't believe it. I sat there for a good 5 minutes or something just staring into my monitor after the dialogue ended. I tried my best to fight his stupid decision but he won't budge. I can't be his queen since I'm not of noble birth, and regents are expected to marry and have children.

God, I feel so strongly about this. It's really weird. This is the first time I've gotten dumped in a Bioware game. And I liked Alistair so freaking much too, I almost felt guilty over how much I liked talking to him when I thought about my irl boyfriend (silly, I know!).

So now's just the question to myself... do I accept this, or do I re-load and make Anora queen just to save our relationship? I don't particularly like her, and I'm not sure it's okay to put her as reigning queen just to save mine and Alistair's relationship. Not to mention that even if my characters won't know this happened, I freaking know! My game's still running, haven't moved an inch since Alistair went out the room and I have a stupid level up window up. But yeah, what now, what now...

Did this happen to anyone else? I mean the event, and the feelings about the event both lol =)

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Are you playing with a Human Noble or another origin? If you're a HN you can make yourself queen and he won't dump you.

If you're playing any other origin you can avoid having him dump you if you harden him first.

EDIT: In case you don't know, to harden Alistair you must pick the line "Everyone's out for themselves" after the meeting with Goldanna. Then, once he hits 75 approval he will tell you that he wants to stand up for himself. Support him and then he's hardened.

After the Landsmeet is over, he will still try to dump you, but you can avoid it by picking the line "no one can tell the king what to do".

Modifié par Zjarcal, 30 novembre 2010 - 01:14 .


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Yeah I don't think I've hardened him any. Always been nice and romancy with him x)

EDIT: Yeah, I didn't do that. I let him cry on my shoulder-esque instead. So he's still my big, loving pansy =/ I did try the "nobody can tell the king what to do" thing too, without knowing any mechanics behind it, but he brushed it off - for obvious reasons now that I know the mechanics behind it all. And I am indeed a mage, so no human noble for me.

Damn it all =/ Alistair :crying:

Modifié par KiddDaBeauty, 30 novembre 2010 - 01:16 .


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Hardening Alistair is the only way for him not to break with you if he's king and you're not a Human Noble.

I know, I was surprised myself. But trust me, hardened Alistair is much better than regular Alistair, even if you're not planning to make him king.

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Well I'm not going to replay half the game (can't even if I wanted to, have no saves ~30 game hours into the past 'neways) just to harden him lol. Basically this whole playthrough I've been picking all the options I feel is right to me, myself as a person. Which is why this sucks so hard too, I guess xD The bastard dumped me!!

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You can always make a new playthrough. The 1st playthrough to me, is always the "test run".

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Zjarcal

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Well, you're certainly not alone in this happening to you. Almost everyone who romanced Alistair has experienced this.

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But I was planning on going f/f with Leliana on my next run x) God, decisions decisions. I bloody hate Bioware right now lol, even though I know deep inside I love 'em for making me feel so engaged. Still, hate =D

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As a Leli fan myself, I vote for going f/f with Leli!! :D

Screw Alistair.

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Zjarcal wrote...

Well, you're certainly not alone in this happening to you. Almost everyone who romanced Alistair has experienced this.


That is unless you didn't make Alistair king because it is the one thing he repeatedly tells you he doesn't want throughout the game....:innocent:

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beggargirl wrote...

That is unless you didn't make Alistair king because it is the one thing he repeatedly tells you he doesn't want throughout the game....:innocent:


Ahem, I MYSELF never experienced this since a) I've never romanced Alistair and B) I've never made him king, for the reasons you stated and the fact that I believe Anora is a much better queen.

But still, almost every Alistair fan has experienced this.

Modifié par Zjarcal, 30 novembre 2010 - 01:48 .


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beggargirl

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Aw. And if this is your first playthrough, why do you want spoilers? It's so fun to get to the end without knowing...like opening a present.

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Oh, don't worry. The worst part is (possibly) yet to come.

You'll see. Or not, depending on what you decide in a little while.

:whistle:

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bleetman wrote...

Oh, don't worry. The worst part is (possibly) yet to come.

You'll see. Or not, depending on what you decide in a little while.

:whistle:


Oh, thats is SOOO true. ;)

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"Basically this whole playthrough I've been picking all the options I feel is right to me, myself as a person. Which is why this sucks so hard too, I guess xD The bastard dumped me!!"



If I were you I'd keep playing as you. I always make "Me" choices my first run through.

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I experienced it. My advice -- don't reload. Play the game out. Perhaps pursue another romance (omg, I did, and it made me a Zevran fangirl for life -- dumped by Alistair, engaged to Zevran... yeh), but just see how things end up.

Alistair's romance is beautiful and tragic and heartbreaking all at the same time without metagaming. You may still run across some unexpected twists.

My first run had me crying so much, out of heartbreak and happiness. Enjoy it!  And hate it.  And next time you play through, you'll make different choices and have different things happen.

Modifié par ejoslin, 30 novembre 2010 - 01:51 .


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Yeah you made the guy the one thing he spent the whole game telling you he didn't want to do. I'd have dumped you too. XD

That said I wouldn't reload if I were you. You're in for a lot more tragedy. *laughs evilly* :devil:

Though I'm an Alistair fan and I never got the breakup speech. ...That said I hardened him without realizing and suggested being his- urgh....yeah.

Though honestly Alistair is miserable as king I don't see why you'd make him king unless you planned on being chancellor or queen. He's much happier if the two of you remain grey Wardens together.

Modifié par Ryzaki, 30 novembre 2010 - 02:06 .


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beggargirl wrote...

If I were you I'd keep playing as you. I always make "Me" choices my first run through.

But... I'm single ;_;

ejoslin wrote...

I experienced it. My advice -- don't reload. Play the game out. Perhaps pursue another romance (omg, I did, and it made me a Zevran fangirl for life -- dumped by Alistair, engaged to Zevran... yeh), but just see how things end up.

Alistair's romance is beautiful and tragic and heartbreaking all at the same time without metagaming. You may still run across some unexpected twists.

My first run had me crying so much, out of heartbreak and happiness. Enjoy it!  And hate it.  And next time you play through, you'll make different choices and have different things happen.

Do I even have time for another romance? I figured this was like, just a few minutes from the end game. Not to mention... I honestly don't feel like having another romance >_< I'm Alistair's girl, really. At least this playthrough, I really am. I'm so stricken by that fine lad I can't imagine.... urgh, the urge to reload is so huge.

I need him ;_;

EDIT: I mean I've been through so much crap, both of us have. He really doesn't want to become king, yet he feels it is for the best regardless and he is ready to accept it. We've seen so much stuff that's just heart wrenching and his family rejected him, and I was thrown out of my mage tower. We deserve our happy ending >_< *tears controller to pieces in frustration*

Modifié par KiddDaBeauty, 30 novembre 2010 - 02:05 .


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Alistair's happy ending involves him *not* being king. (Unhardened anyways).

I mean...really. He has told you time and time again that he doesn't like to lead. And you dumped a whole country in his lap. 

Modifié par Ryzaki, 30 novembre 2010 - 02:07 .


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I'm a guy and I'm in the same boat as you. Alistair's charms made me realise I'm gay.

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I say press on, keep the save and play the game through, if you finish it and really don't like how it turns out then you can reload.



I've played through the game some 5 or 6 times now and I always keep a few saves for crucial* decisions.



*crucial from my perspective not necessarily anyone elses.

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Ryzaki wrote...

Alistair's happy ending involves him *not* being king. (Unhardened anyways). 

I mean...really. He has told you time and time again that he doesn't like to lead. And you dumped a whole country in his lap. 


You're making it sound like I don't have any guilty conscience over it =/ Him and I discussed it quite thoroughly and we both realised together that it was the best way. He didn't like it, but he pretty much realised it needed to be done.

Jon Jern wrote...

I'm a guy and I'm in the same boat as you. Alistair's charms made me realise I'm gay.

If that wasn't an exaggaration but actually literally true, then that's so many trillion levels of awesome =D

#23
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You can be right at the end of the game, but you are still able to take some time if you want.



I say you should stop looking at forums, and go playthrough to the end of the game without getting any more spoilers. Then come back in a few hours and tell us what you did.




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Heehee I haven't really been spoiled any. If I have, I've been too dumb not to register any spoilers at least *decides it's best not to scroll up again and reread posts that may include spoilers I missed the first read-through*

Okay, I'll be back in a while. If I feel like **** when I'm done, I'm blaming you all =D

Modifié par KiddDaBeauty, 30 novembre 2010 - 02:14 .


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"You're making it sound like I don't have any guilty conscience over it"



Hah. You should see what I did to my sister on my first playthrough in order to do what I felt 'was right'. Talk about guilt...