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[Kidd]

Yeah, my alternate had Alistair and me living happily with Anora as queen.

ejoslin wrote...

Just a warning, since you're on the console -- Zevran's and Leliana's romances both have pretty bad bugs. Romance stopping, end of communication type bugs. If you start Leliana's romance and have not gotten her personal quest, you will have to break up with her to get it :/ You can start it again after finishing her personal quest, but it's a shame to have to do that. If after Zevran's personal quest you get a public kiss -- reload and redo the fight. the public kiss is bugged and the romance never switches to love. Plus with both of them, you're getting the wrong dialogs a lot of the time.

Bleh, i hate that bw hasn't fixed those.

Oh really? =\\ That's really quite horrible. Have to keep an eye out for that, then =\\ I never figured out when "friends" change to "love" and all that. Wonder if I just can't see the definition on a console. All I ever saw was the slider itself, with a heart on the right end.

[Kidd]

Oh yeah cause my final save got borked when I went back, right? Got it.



Wonder if that means I have to do Witch Hunt over, too.

[M-Taylor]

Addai67 wrote...

Ryzaki wrote...

Though honestly Alistair is miserable as king I don't see why you'd make him king unless you planned on being chancellor or queen. He's much happier if the two of you remain grey Wardens together.

Unhardened, that's true.  Hardened, not so much.

OP, my advice- reload and make Anora sole ruler.  Others have told you not to do it and to play it through, so you decide. 

Hmmm? Did I completely miss something?

In one of my Dalish play throughs, she was very selfish and self absorbed but rather brutal. She hardened him, because that was her outlook in life. She then didn't make him King, 'cause that would mean a likely seperation to her. The two remained Grey Wardens, and he said something like

'I'm so grateful to you. You gave me the strength I needed, and helped me avoid the one destiny that's haunted me since I was a little child'.

I mean.. I'm not saying he isn't happier unhardened and remaining a Grey Warden, but he's certainly not sad?

[Catspaw]

Oh I feel like I missed out on so much my first playthrough! I'm also late to the game and it took me almost a year to play one character. I went with male human noble first and didn't know I could have "relations" with any NPC's! I felt "bro-bonded" with Alistair, so we rode off into the sunset together to find more darkspawn (didn't know I had extra content then). Now I've started a female mage specifically to get into Ali's armor as soon as possible. No way am I letting him dump me at the end.... Wonder how long I'll have to wait. I'll be soaking up the gush threads and going for the wedding mod.

"Sighs dramatically"

[Kidd]

Mmmm I recommend Alistair. He's one nice, sweet hunk of a man =D

Hanz54321 wrote...

KiddDaBeauty wrote...

Oh yeah cause my final save got borked when I went back, right? Got it.

Wonder if that means I have to do Witch Hunt over, too.

It does - though Witch Hunt 1.1 for the PC is kind of borked too . . . I'm not sure if any of my decisions got saved.  It ended very abrubtly for me.

Couldn't I just import the save that's saved for my Witch Hunt playthrough though? I mean, Witch Hunt is considered a separate "playthrough" from my ordinary file, and obviously there's information in that file about what I did in DAO since Morrigan knew what I had done or not.

[rak72]

I don't think being king or not is the deciding factor in Alistair's happiness. The deciding factor is being with the one he loves.

[Ryzaki]

M-Taylor wrote...

Hmmm? Did I completely miss something?

In one of my Dalish play throughs, she was very selfish and self absorbed but rather brutal. She hardened him, because that was her outlook in life. She then didn't make him King, 'cause that would mean a likely seperation to her. The two remained Grey Wardens, and he said something like

'I'm so grateful to you. You gave me the strength I needed, and helped me avoid the one destiny that's haunted me since I was a little child'.

I mean.. I'm not saying he isn't happier unhardened and remaining a Grey Warden, but he's certainly not sad?

He said that? 

*rushes to play another game*

[Addai]

M-Taylor wrote...

Addai67 wrote...

Ryzaki wrote...

Though honestly Alistair is miserable as king I don't see why you'd make him king unless you planned on being chancellor or queen. He's much happier if the two of you remain grey Wardens together.

Unhardened, that's true.  Hardened, not so much.

OP, my advice- reload and make Anora sole ruler.  Others have told you not to do it and to play it through, so you decide. 

Hmmm? Did I completely miss something?

In one of my Dalish play throughs, she was very selfish and self absorbed but rather brutal. She hardened him, because that was her outlook in life. She then didn't make him King, 'cause that would mean a likely seperation to her. The two remained Grey Wardens, and he said something like

'I'm so grateful to you. You gave me the strength I needed, and helped me avoid the one destiny that's haunted me since I was a little child'.

I mean.. I'm not saying he isn't happier unhardened and remaining a Grey Warden, but he's certainly not sad?

That sounds like an unhardened line to me, but I'd need a toolset person to confirm.  In response to "are you okay with Anora being queen?" he says "barely, but at least it's not me" and doesn't sound very happy about it.  It's not that he wants to be king, but doesn't trust Anora, and is willing to come around to see being king as an opportunity to do good.  For instance, if you ask him in the Landsmeet "what should I do?" he says unequivocally "make me king- Anora is not an option."  When hardened, I mean.

[Zhijn]

What is it about Witch Hunt that is jacked, borked or bugged?.

I seem to have gone through plenty of DAO>Awakening>WH and DAO>WH without a hiccup.

Just curious so i can look out for it if i decide to do another run. xD

Modifié par Zhijn, 30 novembre 2010 - 09:32 .

[Ryzaki]

Okay here's the convo if hardened.

Alistair: Before I forget, I need to say something. [it's something good]
When Arl Eamon said I was going to be king I thought, "That's it! Your worst fears have finally been realized!" [a bit jokingly, but it was a serious situation for him]
But you didn't make me king... and Loghain still got what he deserved. Everything worked out, thanks to you.[earnest thanks]

PC: You're okay with Anora being queen?

Alistair: Barely. But better her than me, that's what I say.[said with a shrug -- he's happier with this result, mostly]

Modifié par Ryzaki, 30 novembre 2010 - 09:38 .

[ejoslin]

Note that on consoles you do not get that conversation. It's only if the dialog has been fixed (I think all the major Alistair mods have that restored including mine -- there's a data entry error keeping it out).

[Merilsell]

tuppence95 wrote...
David Gaider (head writer and creator of Alistair) is a wicked man who lives off of players' tears. 

KiddDaBeauty wrote...
I used to be a fan, now I'm just a DAMN YOU ALISTAIR

[M-Taylor]

Addai67 wrote...

M-Taylor wrote...

Addai67 wrote...

Ryzaki wrote...

Though honestly Alistair is miserable as king I don't see why you'd make him king unless you planned on being chancellor or queen. He's much happier if the two of you remain grey Wardens together.

Unhardened, that's true.  Hardened, not so much.

OP, my advice- reload and make Anora sole ruler.  Others have told you not to do it and to play it through, so you decide. 

Hmmm? Did I completely miss something?

In one of my Dalish play throughs, she was very selfish and self absorbed but rather brutal. She hardened him, because that was her outlook in life. She then didn't make him King, 'cause that would mean a likely seperation to her. The two remained Grey Wardens, and he said something like

'I'm so grateful to you. You gave me the strength I needed, and helped me avoid the one destiny that's haunted me since I was a little child'.

I mean.. I'm not saying he isn't happier unhardened and remaining a Grey Warden, but he's certainly not sad?

That sounds like an unhardened line to me, but I'd need a toolset person to confirm.  In response to "are you okay with Anora being queen?" he says "barely, but at least it's not me" and doesn't sound very happy about it.  It's not that he wants to be king, but doesn't trust Anora, and is willing to come around to see being king as an opportunity to do good.  For instance, if you ask him in the Landsmeet "what should I do?" he says unequivocally "make me king- Anora is not an option."  When hardened, I mean.

Oh no, that's all true. I'm not saying he doesn't feel obliged to be King, and I'm 100% sure he was hardened.

But after the Landsmeet, not before or during, he doesn't seem 100% sad and pissed off. He certainly does seem to hold some regret, but I would still say he would seem relieved by the news.

[Zhijn]

Hanz54321 wrote...

Zhijn wrote...

What is it about Witch Hunt that is jacked, borked or bugged?.

I seem to have gone through plenty of DAO>Awakening>WH and DAO>WH without a hiccup.

Just curious so i can look out for it if i decide to do another run. xD

I confirmed this with a bunch of forumites months ago that this just happens.

It's just that thing where Morrigan goes through the mirror and then "slammo" - straight to credits.  No explanation of what she does with the child (OK, they are saving that one for DA3).  No explanation of what the mysterious book is.  No, "Here ya go elven side kick - your book," conversation.  No epilogue.  Nothing.  Just WHAM!  Straight to credits.

And MOST important . . . no end game / save game file for me to load when the next game comes out.

And I properly installed the update.  I installed Wolfshop the same way and it worked fine.  Changed the filename to da.zip no problem.

Ah i thought it was about some flag bugs!.
Hm, indeed weird you get no autosave after the mirror talk even with the WH patch.

Have you tried downloading Witch Hunt again via "Your registered game promotions" and reinstalling it?.

As to the no epilogue, thats just bioware being bioware. xD

[Kidd]

Wait, there's supposed to be an epilogue? I thought it ended with "there's your book and... something else I left for you *dun-dun-DUN*" and that was it, as a cliffhanger?

[Kidd]

I didn't find it crappy at all. Thought it was a nice cliff hanger. Of course, I didn't wait a year for this DLC to come out, to me it was a bonus just after beating the game that could show me where the future was leading us =)

[sevalaricgirl]

Interesting post. I HNF made Alistair king because he doesn't show up in Awakening if you don't make him king. If he was a Grey Warden, then Awakening would be full of bugs or does the convo change and you aren't the only Grey Warden in Fereldon. If Alistair is a Grey Warden he would be with you at Vigil's Keep.