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[Perfect-Kenshin]

Who came up with it and why? What does the name mean for the character? We know Shepard was named Shepard because he is more or less suppossed to be a reference to Jesus (watches over humanity and the rest of the galaxy as a spectre in attempt to keep it out of harms way, saves everyone in the galaxy (jews and gentiles), not just humans (jews) therefore causing some humans (jews) to have a problem with him, rises from the dead, the reapers practically consider him a god, etc). But what about Hawke? Surely the writers didn't just choose a random name because they thought it sounded good and added into the appeal of silly taglines like "Think like a general" and "Fight like a spartan."

Perhaps Hawke is a reference to the animal. Hawkes are adapt hunters and have the highest IQ amongst birds. So perhaps Hawke is extremely intelligent and is hunting something throughout the game. Maybe he has good eyesight too. Ideas?

Modifié par Perfect-Kenshin, 01 décembre 2010 - 02:49 .

[Nerivant]

Perfect-Kenshin wrote...

Who came up with it and why? What does the name mean for the character? We know Shepard was named Shepard because he is more or less suppossed to be a reference to Jesus (watches over humanity and the rest of the galaxy as a spectre in attempt to keep it out of harms way, saves everyone in the galaxy (jews and gentiles), not just humans (jews) therefore causing some humans (jews) to have a problem with him, rises from the dead, the reapers practically consider him a god, etc). But what about Hawke? Surely the writers didn't just choose a random name because they thought it sounded good and added into the appeal of silly taglines like "Think like a general" and "Fight like a spartan."

Perhaps Hawke is a reference to the animal. Hawkes are adapt hunters and have the highest IQ amongst birds. So perhaps Hawke is extremely intelligent and is hunting something throughout the game. Maybe he has good eyesight too. Ideas?

I wish I had a cup of coffee nearby so that I could do a spit-take.

I have no idea where this came from, but it's definately interesting.

[Atakuma]

Shepard is more likely a reference to leadership than a full on Jesus allegory.

Modifié par Atakuma, 01 décembre 2010 - 02:57 .

[RinpocheSchnozberry]

Jesus is a hawk?  As in the kind of bird that hunts other birds?  ****, I got to go back and read the Bible again. 

Maybe it simply boils down to Hawke likes to jump down on things from above.

Avaline:  "Goodbye, my love, my husaband of--"
Hawke:  "WOOOSH!"  BAM.
Avaline:  "AUGH!  You ****!"

[TJPags]

So, DA2 is a religious tale?

[Atakuma]

I'm guessing the name just sounded cool to the writers.

[Crimson Invictus]

It simply allows them a chance to use the name Mike or York.

RinpocheSchnozberry wrote...
Maybe it simply boils down to Hawke likes to jump down on things from above.

It has long been established that swooping is bad.

Modifié par Liana Nighthawk, 01 décembre 2010 - 03:09 .

[Perfect-Kenshin]

Atakuma wrote...

Shepard is more likely a reference to leadership than a full on Jesus allegory.

Heheh. Yeah, I'm probably grasping just a wee bit. Still, there are quite a few Biblical references in ME2. And Shepard has 12 Squadmates. Jesus had 12 disciples. Don't get me wrong. There are several other characters whom I believe the writers had in mind too.

[Perfect-Kenshin]

TJPags wrote...

So, DA2 is a religious tale?

No clue. Hawke could very well be the equivalent to any religious figure in terms of the effects of his actions and the situations he ends up in, but the plot seems to be the typical 'random guy from a loser town rises above the ranks when he probably should've been killed 9000 times over and changes the world forever, though not really that big of a change when you think about it, but an excuse to overhype the plot, since a similar marketing strategy worked for ME2's plot which ultimately turned out to be nothing more than needlessly recruiting a bunch of meaningless characters (only 2 of them being sort of kind of necessary agains the collectors) who all happen to have daddy issues.

Modifié par Perfect-Kenshin, 01 décembre 2010 - 03:22 .

[Ulicus]

Here you go.

I'd have preferred the "Halke" spelling. 

[Maria Caliban]

Atakuma wrote...

Shepard is more likely a reference to leadership than a full on Jesus allegory.

Allegory? Probably not. ME 2 makes several references to the Bible ("A House Divided" "Lazarus Project" A team member named Legion.) If it were a science fiction novel, I'd expect these things to matter, but video games don't have themes as much as they have spoiler paint.

[TJPags]

Ulicus wrote...

Here you go.

I'd have preferred the "Halke" spelling. 

Well, there ya go - it means "guy with a big nose".

[Ulicus]

But Shepard had twelve disciples in ME2, as well.

[SnakeStrike8]

Hawke is named Hawke so that the team has an excuse to have him/her battle Shale.

Shale: "Hawke?! A bird! DEATH TO ALL PIGEONS!!!"

[Merced652]

hawke = trailer trash, or whatever the DA universes analog is.

[Cazlee]

i mean no disrespect, but most of the examples used to show similarities between shepard and jesus are a real stretch. it seems like you were changing the story in the bible to fit the life of shepard rather than showing any real similarities between the two.

[Johnny Chaos]

here comes the ****storm.......................

[vampsrock9988]

Bioware does have a tendency to use names that are meaningful to the character and their development, but honestly, so does any good writer or writing team. This article is very good about explaining the names used in DA:O

tinyurl.com/2c3d3or

Modifié par vampsrock9988, 01 décembre 2010 - 03:37 .

[Maria Caliban]

"File not found."

[vampsrock9988]

Maria Caliban wrote...

"File not found."

Fixed

[Uhh.. Jonah]

Some hawks were used as messengers. Maybe Hawke is a messenger and.. yea. Only thing I could think of people.

[vampsrock9988]

Uhh.. Jonah wrote...

Some hawks were used as messengers. Maybe Hawke is a messenger and.. yea. Only thing I could think of people.

Doesn't Flemeth give him something to deliver for her?  Or am I remembering that wrong?

[Ulicus]

Flemeth does use him to deliver a package. So maybe he's like an exceptionally gifted pidgeon.

EDIT: Ninja'ed, gorramit.

Modifié par Ulicus, 01 décembre 2010 - 03:41 .

[TJPags]

vampsrock9988 wrote...


Bioware does have a tendency to use names that are meaningful to the character and their development, but honestly, so does any good writer or writing team. This article is very good about explaining the names used in DA:O

tinyurl.com/2c3d3or

Interesting, and logical.  I don't doubt that many authors choose names that have meanings which they want to impart to that character.

However, I rarely go with default names for my own characters, so I guess I screw up the chosen PC names here.

[Piecake]

Uhh.. Jonah wrote...

Some hawks were used as messengers. Maybe Hawke is a messenger and.. yea. Only thing I could think of people.

They were also used in hunting.

Maybe you hunt down people at the behest of pompous, effete nobles