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[JobacNoor]

Morrigan did great with the entire ice line, the first heal spell, the sleep line, crushing prison line and I made her a spirit healer at 14 which I also maxed out. Crowd control is simply a must, and you can never have enough IMO. I dumped all of her attribute points into willpower and magic, maybe some constitution once those two are high enough. But really, she shouldn't be taking any hits.

I honestly don't know how viable it is to make Leliana DW since it seems like a bit of a waste to let the archery talents she comes with go to waste, I went with the archery tree and maxing her lockpicking & bard talents. She provided a nice, steady source of damage once you get a good bow while buffing me and Alistair with her songs. 

[VidyaRage]

For morrigan just dump everything into WP and Magic, perhaps a few in con every once in a while.



Leliana is an archer to start with, its best if you keep her that way. Or you can take a hit on her talents and spec the remaining points into DW. The choice is yours. Her stats, either way, should go into Dex and Cunning, imo.



If you want to go DW then go duelist and still pump dex and cunning, I believe duelist has a talent that allows cunning to become your new 'STR' stat (though i could be wrong, dont have the game up atm).

[VidyaRage]

As I remember reading it, cunning takes place of strength altogether. Meaning you use cunning for item requirements where str would be.



NOTE: I have not tried this yet, so I may be mistaken. It's worth exercising your google-fu.

[Jestert]

have you considered lightning line for morrigan? to get tempest so you can call down the storm of the century spell combination.

[marshalleck]

Lemonio wrote...

but is using cunning really better than using strength?
for instance, if i pump cunning i won't be able to wear good armor

You need like 20 strength to wear some of the best light armor in the game. I'm not sure why you'd want to put heavy armor on Leliana since rogues have so many activated skills--you'd burn through her stamina and leave her auto-attacking.

[sidion77]

Im building Leiliana as an archer/bard/ranger and she's doing fine DPS wise, picking locks and opening traps. Screw DW as she takes too much damage if she gets in close and she doesn't position right for backstabs automatically.

[BiowareAZ]

Respec mod??!?!?!?!? Where?

[Kathila]

Archery kind of sucks, but with Leliana you have to keep in mind that she will probably be your lockpicker. Plus, you're probably going to have auras running from her bard spec, so not only are you going to be low on talents to make a viable dagger build you're also going to have low stamina, and probably a very mediocre health score. After considering all those factors I really don't think it's worth the micromanagement to turn her around and make her melee.

[marshalleck]

Lemonio wrote...
won't archery be underpowered since like all the fights are melee?

Huh? Are we playing the same game? It seems like every group I encounter has a contingent of archers.

[Aumra]

There are tons of Archers in the game. If you know how tactics work in this game there are clear places for archers to work well. In fact I think I'll make a post about that.

[Kathila]

marshalleck wrote...

Lemonio wrote...
won't archery be underpowered since like all the fights are melee?

Huh? Are we playing the same game? It seems like every group I encounter has a contingent of archers.

Monster archers are extremely dangerous because there are a LOT of them, and more so because late game they can all scattershot.  Unless you figure out a way to stick 6 archers in your group, the same does not apply to you.

[vizering]

Archers are amazing... aoe stun shot, knockdown shot, immobilize shot, debuff shot, crit shot, slaying shot... debuff sustained ability... they are good man.

[marshalleck]

Kathila wrote...

Archery kind of sucks, but with Leliana you have to keep in mind that she will probably be your lockpicker. Plus, you're probably going to have auras running from her bard spec, so not only are you going to be low on talents to make a viable dagger build you're also going to have low stamina, and probably a very mediocre health score. After considering all those factors I really don't think it's worth the micromanagement to turn her around and make her melee.

Especially not when Zevran comes primed for melee.

Lemonio wrote...

what i meant was...there are archers but there are also melee in every fight
and if a warrior runs up to leliana and she has a bow...someone i think she is screwed

She's not necessarily in trouble in that situation. She has access to a number of stuns and a Bard song for crowd control.

Modifié par marshalleck, 13 novembre 2009 - 02:27 .

[NetBeansAndJava]

In my opinion, Leliana isn't built to be dps, she's utility. I'm thinking of making her have ranger + bard and spec her for enough will to have a summon out + bard song. The rest of the stat pts I'll pour into dex and cunning... maybe enough con just to take a few hits... chances are she won't be pulling agro w/ her dmg anyway.



Also, she'll have lockpicking, stealth, and trapmaking for added utility.

[marshalleck]

Leliana does fine as an archer if you don't want to spend a lot of time micro-managing her. Just have her put on a song, Suppressive Fire, and Aim, and let her plink away at your foes.

[Nissa_Red]

Morrigan
Specializations : whatever you prefer, the spells/modes you pick for her matter more
Modes : Flaming weapons (for undeads), Telekinetic Weapons (for heavily armored), Frost weapons (for others)
Spells : Level 1 heal + fireball/blizzard are a must, so are cone of frost and crushing prison

Leleina
Specializations : bard + duelist
Modes : Aim/Defensive fire for bosses, Rapid shot otherwise
Talents : The whole archery line (all 12 talents) is great, especially Scattershot and Defensive fire

Focus on Dex/Str for Leleina, Mag/Wil for Morrigan (doh)
Leleina + Morrigan = 90% of the kills in my parties if I wanted

Leleina almost tanked Javira for me, and both of them + my tank can make it so that mages never get a single spell off

Modifié par Nissa_Red, 14 novembre 2009 - 06:08 .