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#26
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a console window like in the bg games would be quite helpful.

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MIke_18 wrote...


"does Garrus' face texture still look like mud?"

That was a bug and was fixed with a patch. The PC version of ME has a lot better textures and FOV from the console version. It's also using the keyboard as best as possible.


But the patch didn't fix it. Not completely anyway. For whatever reason, when you use the Ultra-High graphics Garrus's face uses the lowest resolution skin. And if you're like me and got the game on Steam, you're SOL because TextMod doesn't work properly with the Steam release.

I'd also like to point out that the Graphics for ME were horrible without doing the proper tweaks to the .ini files, and it won't support any Surround Sound besides Creative's X-Fi.

You have nothing to worry about with DA2 though. Remember that this is still being developed on top of the same engine they made for DA:O, which means it's already been optimized for the PC. People who've tried out the PC version have said that DA2 handles just the same as DA:O with a keyboard and mouse. You should also know that, even though this is Bioware, the people making DA2 are a completely different team (meaning different people) than the one that made ME2.

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GodWood wrote...

Johnny Chaos wrote...
Buy a PS3

Fixed

Fixed again.

Seriously though - I doubt PC version of DA2 will have any troubles with hotkeys. They basically using the old UI. I'm more concerned if they're able to handle console controls properly.

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ScorpSt wrote...

You should also know that, even though this is Bioware, the people making DA2 are a completely different team (meaning different people) than the one that made ME2.


I believe BioWare uses matrix human resource allocation.

Snoteye wrote...

I remember this as the first concrete English grammar rule I learned.


Amusingly enough, Snoteye studied English for two years before he came across it.

Modifié par Maria Caliban, 02 décembre 2010 - 10:51 .


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MIke_18 wrote...
http://2.bp.blogspot...-h/LRezME21.JPG

This doesn't seem poor to you. The textures are awful, and nobody did anything to make the game look better on PC. No AA support either. 

As i said DA II is being developed the same way as ME2, all versions are worked on internally. I fear the DA II port will get the same attention as the ME2 port.

FYI, using an image where you can see the JPEG compression artifacts really doesn't help your case at all. Don't blame the game because the compression level of the image format is set to sacrifice quality. That image is compressed a LOT - it's 34Kb for a 960x540 image.

Also, no AA support? Huh? Even with the low quality of that image, I can tell AA is being used.

Please at least make an effort to ensure the accuracy of your evidence and facts if you're going to comment on technical implementation details.

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Dont worry. Your fear will come true ^^

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Maria Caliban wrote...

Amusingly enough, Snoteye studied English for two years before he came across it.

I like to be prepared.

By the way, why would you recommend a PS2?

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MIke_18

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AmstradHero wrote...

MIke_18 wrote...
http://2.bp.blogspot...-h/LRezME21.JPG

This doesn't seem poor to you. The textures are awful, and nobody did anything to make the game look better on PC. No AA support either. 

As i said DA II is being developed the same way as ME2, all versions are worked on internally. I fear the DA II port will get the same attention as the ME2 port.

FYI, using an image where you can see the JPEG compression artifacts really doesn't help your case at all. Don't blame the game because the compression level of the image format is set to sacrifice quality. That image is compressed a LOT - it's 34Kb for a 960x540 image.

Also, no AA support? Huh? Even with the low quality of that image, I can tell AA is being used.

Please at least make an effort to ensure the accuracy of your evidence and facts if you're going to comment on technical implementation details.


It's just a random screenshot i found. I'm not basing my oppinion on that screenshot alone. I've played the game maxed and some areas look really horrible due to bland textures.

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Snoteye wrote...

Maria Caliban wrote...

Amusingly enough, Snoteye studied English for two years before he came across it.

I like to be prepared.

By the way, why would you recommend a PS2?


The largest library of good third-party games so far would be my first guess.
Shadow of the Colossus would be my second.

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Biggest problem with the ME2 port for me was that there was no double click and no scroll wheel use in the menus. Handling the menus would have been like 80% faster and less annoying if these standard functions since the 90s would have been implemented. DA2 is beeing developed by a different BioWare studio, so hopefully someone there can spare the 5 minutes to implement this basic functionality.

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Good people, forget about DA2 and get Drakensang:River of Time. I have heard a lot of praise for it.

The game is PC only, "RPG heavy", it is a skillfully crafted party-based RPG by RPG enthusiasts for RPG enthusiasts. I am already seriously thinking of buying it instead of DA2. It looks way more promising than DA2, particularly in terms of character customisation and the traditional RPG flavour. No dumbing-down guaranteed. Plus, it offers an overhead view! [end of promotion text]

So, I am no longer concerned about the PC version of DA2 because a serious alternative has emerged!

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Martanek wrote...

Good people, forget about DA2 and get Drakensang:River of Time. I have heard a lot of praise for it.
The game is PC only, "RPG heavy", it is a skillfully crafted party-based RPG by RPG enthusiasts for RPG enthusiasts. I am already seriously thinking of buying it instead of DA2. It looks way more promising than DA2, particularly in terms of character customisation and the traditional RPG flavour. No dumbing-down guaranteed. Plus, it offers an overhead view! [end of promotion text]
So, I am no longer concerned about the PC version of DA2 because a serious alternative has emerged!


And we get flack for being Bioware shills?

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Maria Caliban

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If only people were able to buy more than one RPG per year.

(Plans to get Dragon Age 2, Deus Ex: Human Revolution, WoW: Cataclysm, Witcher 2, Diablo III, and Drakensang 2 within next year.)

shepard_lives wrote...

And we get flack for being Bioware shills?


The first game was quite good.

Modifié par Maria Caliban, 02 décembre 2010 - 03:13 .


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Drakensang is one of the best budget RPGs around but the story was unintentionally funny and the voice acting only helped fuel my laughing. Combat was good but the developer (dtp) should try hard to find investors and work with a bigger budget.  Regardless I'll buy River of Time when its finally released in NA next year.

Modifié par ErichHartmann, 02 décembre 2010 - 03:18 .


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Martanek wrote...

Good people, forget about DA2 and get Drakensang:River of Time.


Assuming Drakensang: Am Fluss der Zeit ever gets an English release, I will gleefully buy both! (My German was good enough for the demo, but I have no desire to play the entire game with a dictionary in one hand.)

However, while Drakensang was a great game in many ways and I'm itching to play the next installment, the series is lacking in some areas that BioWare excells at. The NPCs in Drakensang were much flatter and more cliched than those in Dragon Age and the English voice acting left much to be desired. Even if those things are better in River of Time, there are no romances and I doubt you get to develop deep relationships of any kind with your companions, something that has become pretty standard in BioWare games. (If someone who has played River of Time could chime in on this, I would appreciate it. I would like to be wrong.)

Anyway, I don't know about the rest of you, but there is room in my life for more than one CRPG. I certainly recommend Drakensang if you're into oldskool CRPGs and/or have fond memories of the Northlands Trilogy.

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Maria Caliban wrote...

If only people were able to buy more than one RPG per year.

(Plans to get Dragon Age 2, Deus Ex: Human Revolution, WoW: Cataclysm, Witcher 2, Diablo III, and Drakensang 2 within next year.)

shepard_lives wrote...

And we get flack for being Bioware shills?


The first game was quite good.

I think some people's work places have it signed in their contract that they can only buy one RPG a year because the employers know that if said person was to get more than one then they'd spend most of their year either on holiday or having sickies every now and then and even when they do work all they'd do is spend most of their day in the office on the various RPG social forums.

It is thanks to those poor souls working for those evil employers that the rest of us can enjoy purchasing more than one RPG. :D

Course, next year the only 2 main RPGs I have marked for purchasing is DA2 and ME2 (for PS3), might get Deus Ex: Human Revolution, not sure on that yet. First Witcher annoyed me somewhat, I left WoW many moons ago, never been a fan of the Diablo series and meh to the last.

Oh I forgot another RPG I'll be getting most likely if it is released as planned... 'Star Wars: The Old Republic'

What can I say, am a Bioware fan and am proud of it :D

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I can't standz console controllers. Seriously I would buy a console system that supported a keybord mouse interface. I don't like the cramped feeling my hands get when playing console games. I was even looking into a break out box that would convert controller functions to a mouse and keyboard. Unfortunately from what I read console games are not programed for the precise movement a mouse offers and the simulated mouse movements would feel laggy.

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Maria Caliban wrote...
Yes, they've cut down on the number of abilities and lowered the camera in order to get parity, but I don't doubt that the X-Box's normal mode will still be the PC's casual mode.


Actually, I think back in the thread Peter Thomas had going, he mentioned the plan was for difficulty to be the same across platforms. Seeing as they seem to be doing away with firendly fire and no tactical camera for the PC or increased enemy count.

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Some of the stuff I'm reading has me more concerned. I don't want to buy a game i will hate, that will constantly annoy me with how simplified it is.

You know If i play it, might be a pretty good game, but i won't be able to enjoy it because of this. Maybe i should cancel that pre-order?

Modifié par MIke_18, 02 décembre 2010 - 06:26 .


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Martanek wrote...

Good people, forget about DA2 and get Drakensang:River of Time. I have heard a lot of praise for it.
The game is PC only, "RPG heavy", it is a skillfully crafted party-based RPG by RPG enthusiasts for RPG enthusiasts. I am already seriously thinking of buying it instead of DA2. It looks way more promising than DA2, particularly in terms of character customisation and the traditional RPG flavour. No dumbing-down guaranteed. Plus, it offers an overhead view! [end of promotion text]
So, I am no longer concerned about the PC version of DA2 because a serious alternative has emerged!


Drakensang is great (as far as my taste go) it's going to be way too slow and convoluted for most people though.  I'd hesitate before getting Drakensang 2 though, it's much shorter (40 hours opposed to the 90 of Drak1)  It also seemed much easier to me, that might just because I was familiar with how the ruleset worked for the second go around though.

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You know why they call it an Xbox 360? Because when you see one you do a 360 and walk away!

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Beaner28 wrote...

You know why they call it an Xbox 360? Because when you see one you do a 360 and walk away!

Oh god, kill me now.

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Maria Caliban wrote...
...suggest a PS2

that better be a typo.

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Nope.

Modifié par Maria Caliban, 02 décembre 2010 - 07:18 .


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I haven't had a single problem with ME2's graphics or user interface...compared to ME1 at least. And even still, "console conversion" was hardly noticable to me. I'm not worried about DA2 in the slightest when it comes to conversion.

And why is it that the OP's user name sounds so awfully familiar...

Edit:

Ah yes:
http://social.biowar...1/index/5213589

Modifié par Milana_Saros, 02 décembre 2010 - 07:24 .