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[Wishpig]

I may be wrong, but don't different teams work on the diffrent bioware games? Just because Mass Effect 2 wasn't a great port (although I wouldn't say it was a bad port) doesn't really condemn Dragon Age 2 to the same fate. Different teams, different results.



Plus we already know the combat will be significantly different on the PC version, allowing the tactical control we know and love. If they are willing to do that then they're obviously putting effort into making the PC port more specific to PCs.

[PaulSX]

why people think pc port of ME2 is bad, I mean graphics is better and the combat control is superior, you can easily play in real time on PC but for xbox360, it's hard to do

[Piecake]

dragon age and ME are different teams, though i think they shuffle people in between the two occasionally.

[Mike Laidlaw]

MIke_18 wrote...
My biggest fear is that this will be the problem with DA II too. 

As I've noted previously, the control scheme for DA II is pretty much identical to Origins. It's a far cry from a "port" to PC, as the engine and UI was originally designed for the PC, and now benefits from optimizations and design that works well on both platforms.

There's a bit of difference between the two, for sure, such as hovering tool-tips, the quickbar, the ability to pull the camera back further and so on.

Essentially, though, if you played Origins, you know what you're in for in terms of controlling DA II. Except, of course, for the responsiveness and notable lack of combat shuffle. But then, lots of folks 'round here know my feelings about the shuffle.

[Mike Laidlaw]

Piecake wrote...

dragon age and ME are different teams, though i think they shuffle people in between the two occasionally.

Correct. In fact, if you look closely, you'll see that I have Additional Design credited on the original Mass Effect. Madness!

[Seb Hanlon]

Mike Laidlaw wrote...

Piecake wrote...

dragon age and ME are different teams, though i think they shuffle people in between the two occasionally.

Correct. In fact, if you look closely, you'll see that I have Additional Design credited on the original Mass Effect. Madness!

Actually, since DA2, we no longer shuffle people between projects. Mike said we had to get rid of the shuffle. Instead, we push a button and staff transfer awesomely. 

Modifié par Seb Hanlon, 04 décembre 2010 - 02:45 .

[Dave of Canada]

Mike Laidlaw wrote...

But then, lots of folks 'round here know my feelings about the shuffle.

That's why they never let you shuffle on poker night.

[Dave of Canada]

Seb Hanlon wrote...

Actually, since DA2, we no longer shuffle people between projects. Mike said we had to get rid of the shuffle. Instead, we push a button and staff transfer awesomely. 

I prefered the non-edited version, still gave me a good laugh though!

[Mike Laidlaw]

Seb Hanlon wrote...

Actually, since DA2, we no longer shuffle people between projects. Mike said we had to get rid of the shuffle. Instead, we push a button and staff transfer awesomely. 

Installing those human-capable, rock-and-roll-blasting, pneumatic tubes was absolutely worth it.

[tmp7704]

Mike Laidlaw wrote...

Essentially, though, if you played Origins, you know what you're in for in terms of controlling DA II. Except, of course, for the responsiveness and notable lack of combat shuffle. But then, lots of folks 'round here know my feelings about the shuffle.

I believe the only poblem with DAO shuffle was, it just wasn't artistic enough...

[CoS Sarah Jinstar]

Seb Hanlon wrote...

Mike Laidlaw wrote...

Piecake wrote...

dragon age and ME are different teams, though i think they shuffle people in between the two occasionally.

Correct. In fact, if you look closely, you'll see that I have Additional Design credited on the original Mass Effect. Madness!

Actually, since DA2, we no longer shuffle people between projects. Mike said we had to get rid of the shuffle. Instead, we push a button and staff transfer awesomely. 

Thats not even funny as a joke. That warp bs across the screen just looks flat out stupid to begin with.

[John Epler]

Mike Laidlaw wrote...

Seb Hanlon wrote...

Actually, since DA2, we no longer shuffle people between projects. Mike said we had to get rid of the shuffle. Instead, we push a button and staff transfer awesomely. 

Installing those human-capable, rock-and-roll-blasting, pneumatic tubes was absolutely worth it.

But I'm brittle and bruise easily!

I don't want to transfer projects!

[Brockololly]

CoS Sarah Jinstar wrote..

Thats not even funny as a joke. That warp bs across the screen just looks flat out stupid to begin with.

But..its Hot Rod Sumurai! Its part of the visceral bone crunching combat.... in zero G no less! I'm just waiting for flames and over wrought speed lines on the dash ability. Ugh.


ANYWAY, is there any news or anything on the possibility of DX11 for PC? Or how robust the graphics settings will be? I really just want to know if the textures on the PC will be held back by the consoles cause the disparity in the textures between the head and body  in ME2 on PC were rather stark , while ME1 PC had nice high res textures throughout.

[Leonia]

So how do Bioware employees feel about the iPod shuffle? For or against?



In seriousness though, I'd echo Brockololly's graphic question there. I haven't played many games that use DX11 yet but from those that I have, they haven't taken full-advantage of the technology.

[Tiax Rules All]

DX11 is really cool, but not much uses its potential, Metro 2033 was really cool looking in DX11 and Medal of Honor had some good effects from it to. I want more though. I have a GTX 480 and I want to push that baby. I run all games at maximum features and 1080res right now.



honestly though, I still think ME2 graphics are way better. I dont know whats so different between the engines but ME just shines and sparkles more while DA seem kinda dull.

[RedRoo]

CoS Sarah Jinstar wrote...

Thats not even funny as a joke. That warp bs across the screen just looks flat out stupid to begin with.

... wait, what? I'm going to call overt touchiness here-- they didn't even mention this, no need to bite their heads off.

Though I guess I missed that DA2 is using the exact same interface as Origins, so it's nice to know the GUI and menus won't have an overly console slated feel to the menus and stuff. I'm still interested to see how the camera is looking, but... I'm not alone in that, I bet.

And I absolutely agree with Tiax. The moment when you walk into the destroyed Normandy, with debris floating around and a view into space... I gasped. It looked gorgeous.

Modifié par RedRoo, 04 décembre 2010 - 04:15 .

[Brockololly]

I really think ME2 looks a good deal better than DA because it has a much better lighting system. Seriously, good use of light and shadow with dynamic lighting and all that could make DA look sooooo much more atmospheric and lively.

Modifié par Brockololly, 04 décembre 2010 - 04:21 .

[Piecake]

RedRoo wrote...

CoS Sarah Jinstar wrote...

Thats not even funny as a joke. That warp bs across the screen just looks flat out stupid to begin with.

... wait, what? I'm going to call overt touchiness here-- they didn't even mention this, no need to bite their heads off.

Though I guess I missed that DA2 is using the exact same interface as Origins, so it's nice to know the GUI and menus won't have an overly console slated feel to the menus and stuff. I'm still interested to see how the camera is looking, but... I'm not alone in that, I bet.

And I absolutely agree with Tiax. The moment when you walk into the destroyed Normandy, with debris floating around and a view into space... I gasped. It looked gorgeous.

You should know by now that its Sarah's mission in life to be constantly negative.

But yea, I also am interested in seeing how the camera works.  That is the aspect of the game that worries me the most since I can forsee a lot of annoying problems with a character lock camera system.  Hopefully my worries will be unfounded

Modifié par Piecake, 04 décembre 2010 - 04:26 .

[Sylvius the Mad]

Maria Caliban wrote...

If only people were able to buy more than one RPG per year.

(Plans to get Dragon Age 2, Deus Ex: Human Revolution, WoW: Cataclysm, Witcher 2, Diablo III, and Drakensang 2 within next year.)

Of those, only DA2 and Drakensang 2 appeal to me at all.

I don't like shooters, I really disliked WoW the one time I played it (I have enjoyed MMOs, but not WoW), the Witcher drove me away inside half an hour, and the Diablo series has perhaps the worst gameplay of any game I've seen this side of Big Rigs Over the Road Racing.

Beaner28 wrote...

You know why they call it an Xbox 360? Because when you see one you do a 360 and walk away!

I can't believe you said that.

Where's a good facepalm image when I need one?

Modifié par Sylvius the Mad, 04 décembre 2010 - 04:34 .

[Dave of Canada]

CoS Sarah Jinstar wrote...

Thats not even funny as a joke. That warp bs across the screen just looks flat out stupid to begin with.

I found it funny, you don't need to add to that humor.

Modifié par Dave of Canada, 04 décembre 2010 - 04:29 .

[Tiax Rules All]

also I mean "shines and sparkles" both figuratively AND literally. In ME you had goon light blooming, lens flareing, shiny surfaces that had various degrees of reflection (armor, alien skin, slick surfaces) while the lighting and textures in DA were all matte. they didnt shine reflect or anything like that. I want to see some full plate mail glinitng in the sunlight and an arcane bolt illuminating a hallway as it flies through it.

ME just looked better done and id say it still is over the screenies ive seen of DA2

edit, ya what Brockololly said

Modifié par Tiax Rules All, 04 décembre 2010 - 04:32 .

[Piecake]

Sylvius the Mad wrote...

Beaner28 wrote...

You know why they call it an Xbox 360? Because when you see one you do a 360 and walk away!

I can't believe you said that.

Where's a good facepalm image when I need one?

360, the new 180

[Snoteye]

Sylvius the Mad wrote...

Where's a good facepalm image when I need one?

[Maria Caliban]

CoS Sarah Jinstar wrote...

Seb Hanlon wrote...

Actually, since DA2, we no longer shuffle people between projects. Mike said we had to get rid of the shuffle. Instead, we push a button and staff transfer awesomely. 

Thats not even funny as a joke. That warp bs across the screen just looks flat out stupid to begin with.

Seriously, are you okay Sarah? You seem a bit upset. They're just joking around.

Modifié par Maria Caliban, 04 décembre 2010 - 04:35 .

[In Exile]

Sylvius the Mad wrote...
I can't believe you said that.

Where's a good facepalm image when I need one?

Ah, someone from the Jason Kidd school of geometry. As kid put it: "He will turn the team around 360 degrees."