klarabella wrote...
Wulfram wrote...
Anora betraying you still makes no sense, and is thus still a plot hole.
Unless you believe Anora truly fears Cauthrien it makes also little sense not to back you up when you reveal to Cauthrien what you are actually doing. What's Anora's point? The Warden is at danger at the hands of Cauthrien/Loghain.
I don't like playing the rescue mission any more, it's completely illogical. I try to reduce the plot nonsense by killing Cauthrien at Howe's estate.
I'd have to agree, except killing Cauthrien, because I do enjoy the the FT' Drakon break out. But
One of my canon play throughs I do call Anora out in front of Cauthrien. It is up to the individual player to decide whether or not they believe or trust Anora and her maid, and this one decided to "test" this potential alliance.
This is what your Warden knows thus far, at the time of the rescue. Anora is a complete stranger (except possibly a human noble, who could have met her before at a previous Landsmeet or get together, or would likely be more familiar with what sort of ruler she is). She is also the current head of state and daughter of your primary adversary. She has made no visible attempt thus far to stop her father's activities and plans as far as you know. You only have a maid/confidant's word that she is in danger from her father and Howe. You have not spoken with her personally to know exactly what her intentions or plans are, or what her views on her father's activities are.
Thus, trusting Anora and risking yourself before Cauthrien is an act of blind faith for most characters. One could concievable take this risk on the grounds of duty or patriotism for surface dwellers: risking one's life for one's king/queen in times of danger, regardless of whether or not you know what's going on, is a pretty feasable reason for many people.
However, there is just as much rational reason to announce her presence. You've just been cornered by Loghain's top lackey and her troops. They want to arrest or kill you, and seem to be in a position to do so pretty easily. For all you know, this could be a trap. You've already stuck your neck out for Anora by virtue of breaking into Howe's estate, killing him and his men, and releasing her from "captivity". Now it's her turn to show whether or not she can be trusted. She isn't exactly alone, she is in the company of what are supposed to be the most bad ass mo' fos' in Ferelden who eat dragons and darkspawn for breakfast. Hell, she sent for you in the first place. This is her opportunity to show that she is indeed on the same sheet of music you are. Yet announcing her presence causes her to betray you. If she were so terrified that Cauthrien was a threat to her safety, why would she do this, knowing she'd get taken in with the rest of you and murdered?
For one of my canons, telling Cauthrien that Anora was present was chance. If she had already risked her neck for a queen she knew nothing about and cared even less, Anora should be willing to meet her half way. But Anora didn't. She failed her trust test miserably. Plus, it was an opportunity to test to see if there really was a plot by Loghain to kill his own daughter. Which, of course, there wasn't.
Anora's love of drama and theater is useful in most situations. This, however, was not one of them. Whether or not Anora believed her father would really kill her is open to debate, since we don't know for certain (unlike Loghain, who scoffs at the idea that he would be capable of killing his only child, and points out Anora's drama queen tendancies). I would prefer to think it was all hot air and fluff, since the other alternative, her being genuinely paranoid of a nonexistant threat does not do any favors for her fitness as a ruler.
Hardened Alistair's comment about people like Anora believing themselves soley capable of fixing or improving things is spot on whether true or not, is spot on. Anora betrays you again if you don't support her at Landsmeet. when you talk to her at Eamons. Whether or not you agree or disagree with Alistair's belief in her capability is not the issue, the fact is, Anora believes only she is the good choice for Ferelden, and will act accordingly, whether or not she actually is the best choice for ferelden's interests. And of course, it is up to the individual to decide if this is the case. Butif one does not believe her to be the best ruler for ferelden, then her double cross at Landsmeet proves to that person that Anora does not care about the country's best interests, at least in that character's mind.
That said, i do favor Anora as queen over Alistair, though I dislike her as an individual and like Alistair as a person and individual much better. It is her manipulative, generally ruthless, and flair for the dramatic tendancies that make her a much more suitable ruler than Alistair. Nice guys finish last is a prettyconsistant rule in politics and government. To survive and be effective at the game, a person has to be, or they will get eaten alive by friend and foe alike.