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[Skilled Seeker]

massive_effect wrote...

No. The Batarians aren't very charismatic. Their design is uninspired when compared to Salarians, Turians, Quarians, or Krogan.

Batarians and Vorcha seem like after thoughts, or filler.

Batarians were around since the prequel book Revelations. Hardly after thought material.

[Bio Addict]

lol at all the posters who are hopping on their high horse to condemn other posters for "racism." They're just role playing guys, lighten up.

[Tennessee88]

Because I want to kill Batarians by the bushell in ME3. I want to use their ever living guts to grease the treads of my tanks.



I really do hate them. I'll be fine with this, as long as I also have the option to put a bullet between its eyes...which set is for me to know.

[Big stupid jellyfish]

Bio Addict wrote...

lol at all the posters who are hopping on their high horse to condemn other posters for "racism." They're just role playing guys, lighten up.

When I want to make it clear I roleplay I say 'My Shepard (did this/believes in/thinks that/etc)'. Not 'I (killed/hate/believe/etc)'.

On the other hand, I can hardly understand how is it possible for a player to actually hate videogame characters; I don't consider this healthy. Also, hatehatehate posts usually hint at posters being immature or trolling.

[Vena_86]

Can't we all get along? Batarian for love interest!

[wrexfan32hanalei]

you guys are right, maybe I was wrong to say I hate batarians. I once read that the difference between varmints and vermin is that varmints are fun to shoot, but vermin you just want dead. batarians are my favorite varmint in ME. I love to hate them.

[MasterSamson88]

Batarians have sort of become the ME whipping boy. Wherever there's a gigantic explosion, a terrorist plot, or a baby who's candy has been stolen, a Batarian is most likely there.

[Cra5y Pineapple]

wrexfan32hanalei wrote...

Oh God no. I hate everything about batarians so much. I hope for the next dlc they let you go to the batarian homeworld and just fly around bombarding hospitals, schools, retirement homes. Even their face is a hideous mockery of the human form. Bioware went through some effort to make a race that is very hateable. Can't we have one alien race that it's totally ok to hate? They're like evil space north koreans/terrorist/mosters. I'm sorry about my long response but I really really loathe the idea of a batarian squadmate.

What he said. I support the orbital bombardment of Batarian Orphanages for ME3 (because who are they going to tell? Their parents? *Evil face*).

Foreshadowing aside, I think that a Batarian squadmate would never be popular. You can't just be ruthless, racist and evil when you're trying to save the Galaxy. Zaeed wasn't evil or paticularly racist (except to Batarians ironically) and he had some epic back stories.  Wrex was actually very smart and dignified under his ruthless shell. However, all Batarians we've met are plain evil. Have you never seen a good one? Exactly. Knowing them they'd willingly side with the Reapers.

Modifié par Cra5y Pineapple, 06 décembre 2010 - 10:45 .

[Big stupid jellyfish]

Cra5y Pineapple wrote...
However, all Batarians we've met are plain evil.

O rly?

P.S. Besides, even if so - all geth were plain "evil" in ME1. Guess who's a sqaddie in ME2 (and a pretty popular one)? And why can't we have a batarian that doesn't fall into your stereotypes and isn't like all other representatives of his race?

Modifié par Big stupid jellyfish, 06 décembre 2010 - 11:20 .

[Mako Zalos]

Skilled Seeker wrote...

AdmiralCheez wrote...
I say give us a rebel, an educated fellow who was forced from his homeland because his political opinions disagreed with with the guys up top.

No thanks, that is an overused cliche. A better idea is a batarian that initially completes agrees with the batarian hegemony but can be persuaded to change depending on how your conversations go and if you put in effort to take him with you on missions.

  This as well. Also you know what this subject needs........ a support group.

[AdmiralCheez]

Mako Zalos wrote...
This as well. Also you know what this subject needs........ a support group.

Hellz yeah.  Imma make a banner.

EDIT: BANNER MADE!

Modifié par AdmiralCheez, 07 décembre 2010 - 12:18 .

[Mako Zalos]

AWESOME! Now I just need to get it as my sig.

[AdmiralCheez]

Mako, you need to [ img ] and [ /img ] that thing (minus spaces).

[Iniuria]

AdmiralCheez wrote...

Mako Zalos wrote...
This as well. Also you know what this subject needs........ a support group.

Hellz yeah.  Imma make a banner.

EDIT: BANNER MADE!

I love you.

Banner hijack'd to my siggy.

[Mako Zalos]

YEAH I DID IT! Again I am all for a Batarian squaddie. MAKE IT HAPPEN BIOWARE! viva la batarian.

[AdmiralCheez]

Aw, thanks you guys. I feel so loved.

[Mako Zalos]

You're welcome, plus it's the first of it's kind

[Kane-Corr]

ehhh honestly, the second installment of ME has fed me enough Batarian to last three lifetimes.

[Cra5y Pineapple]

Big stupid jellyfish wrote...

Cra5y Pineapple wrote...
However, all Batarians we've met are plain evil.

O rly?

P.S. Besides, even if so - all geth were plain "evil" in ME1. Guess who's a sqaddie in ME2 (and a pretty popular one)? And why can't we have a batarian that doesn't fall into your stereotypes and isn't like all other representatives of his race?

Because it is clear Bioware wants the Batarians to be evil. They want the Geth to be seen as defensive machines (apart from the heretics).

[Big stupid jellyfish]

Cra5y Pineapple wrote...

Big stupid jellyfish wrote...

Cra5y Pineapple wrote...
However, all Batarians we've met are plain evil.

O rly?

P.S. Besides, even if so - all geth were plain "evil" in ME1. Guess who's a sqaddie in ME2 (and a pretty popular one)? And why can't we have a batarian that doesn't fall into your stereotypes and isn't like all other representatives of his race?

Because it is clear Bioware wants the Batarians to be evil. They want the Geth to be seen as defensive machines (apart from the heretics).

In ME it was also clear Bioware wanted Geth to be seen as Sovereign's followers and destoyers - and they were seen as such. ME2: Geth are now a race that respects quarian creators and wants to fight the Reapers. Not that I want this to be done with Batarians in ME3...

Also, "evil"? Maybe we're lost in translation here because I don't think "evil" is a word that can be applied to any race in ME universe, except for maybe the Reapers. Getting back to the topic, let's think about the Batarian you could've helped during Mordin's quest, or Omega shopkeeper, or Garrus' former quadmate, or Aria's bodyguards; I also liked the Blue Suns Batarians during Garrus' recruitment. Sure, they're not goody-two-shoes folk; all mercenaries aren't, in fact. Almost all guys met in Terminus Systems aren't. And mercenaries aren't Batarians only; there are plenty of Asari/Turian/Human/Krogan/Vorcha ones. Are bodyguards/mercenaries evil? (We have Zaeed in the squad.)

The reputation of the whole race is pretty sore but then again, it is clear that Hegemony does its best to control media (=propaganda) and space travel. Scientists/artists/normal folk/whatever can hardly leave the planet; plus, they might not want to because of the said propaganda and tales about how grim space is. As for slavery, that is disturbing; I do also find it strange they advanced technically and do have slavery and dictatorship, but hey. Still, slavery is a tradition; traditions can be broken. Moreover, slavery still exists on Earth to some extent.

(They also had an embassy on the Citadel. I don't think anyone would've given an embassy a totally "evil" race. I do also tend to believe that Hegemony tightened the pressure and all that after Humans came and the embassy had been closed. But it's hard to say for sure as we don't have enough info.)

Also, I think it had been made clear that races like Vorcha are violent/etc/etc by nature, while Batarians aren't. Sure, the fact they still have dictatorship & slavery must put you on your guard; still, Batarians are heavily influenced by tradition and propaganda and can be perfectly normal in case they were brought up away from both; take Darchas Clark from Cerberus Daily News, or in case they think on their own independently from their government. As I already said, tradition can be broken; propaganda can be neutralized.

P.S. I vaguely recall old forum discussions prior to ME2 about Legion: some said it would be impossible to take this squaddie to the cities/Citadel, some said Geth are enemies and here's the end of story, some said they'd airlock it. Hmm.

I'm trying not to get my hopes up but... Batarian squadmate = do want.

/rant

[SilverEST]

Ever since I was able to play BDTS, I've liked Batarians. Aside for having a fairly interesting appearance(the patterns on their skin, the four eyes), their voice and the fact that their government is totalitarian - I myself having been born in the USSR - find myself relating to them. A Batarian squadmate would provoke much more interest than say, another Asari or a Drell(I still want a box with sand and a heat lamp for Thane).

[Skilled Seeker]

Cra5y Pineapple wrote...
Because it is clear Bioware wants the Batarians to be evil.

Wrong. There are plenty of decent batarians we meet or hear about. Like the one on Garrus's vigilante team or the one in that recent Cerberus daily news article that wants to promote unity amongst species.

Modifié par Skilled Seeker, 07 décembre 2010 - 05:50 .