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[Skilled Seeker]

Will there be one? I know about the preorder Signature edition but I don't want to order it if Bioware will also release a better version. So is the Signature edition the ultimate version?

[Matchy Pointy]

The signature edition is the collector's edition for this one.

[Skilled Seeker]

Do you have a quote or evidence for this? Because the Sig edition is the same price as a standard edition.

[upsettingshorts]

Skilled Seeker wrote...

Do you have a quote or evidence for this? Because the Sig edition is the same price as a standard edition.

Here you go.

Chris Priestly wrote...

As I have said, we are updating our page with retailers as we get confirmation from the retailers that their pre-order page is ready. Just because you do not see your favorite store or country listed does not mean it is excluded. It just means we haven't updated the page yet. Check with yur local preferred retailer or online vendor to be sure.

Oh and:

THIS IS THE COLLECTOR's EDITION

After January 11, 2011 people will still be able to buy Dragon Age 2, but it will be a standard copy without all the cool free stuff included in the Signature Edition.

So get to ordering. [smilie]../../../images/forum/emoticons/smile.png[/smilie]





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Modifié par Upsettingshorts, 03 décembre 2010 - 12:03 .

[Matchy Pointy]

Skilled Seeker wrote...

Do you have a quote or evidence for this? Because the Sig edition is the same price as a standard edition.

Well, all the evidence I have is that Bioware themselves have said so, I don't have a link now, but look in the "What we know so far" thread and you ahve it in there.

[Skilled Seeker]

Thank you upsettingshorts. Nice of Bioware to offer the extras for free.

[Gegenlicht]

Skilled Seeker wrote...

Nice of Bioware to offer the extras for free.

If only everybody saw it that way.

[Khayness]

Gegenlicht wrote...

If only everybody saw it that way.

Dragon Age 2: Blind Faith Edition

(Actually, I have preordered, going to buy 3 games next year, won't be broke if it turns out to be worse than expected)

[Gegenlicht]

Khayness wrote...

Gegenlicht wrote...

If only everybody saw it that way.

Dragon Age 2: Blind Faith Edition

(Actually, I have preordered, going to buy 3 games next year, won't be broke if it turns out to be worse than expected)

Oh please. People who've liked prior Bioware games won't loathe it, it's safe to assume. It might not be <your favourite Bioware game> but it'll be solid to say the least.

Plus, short of getting to actually play the game for a couple hours in a row, there's really no way to tell ahead of time whether it is for you. I loathe both Fallout 3 and Oblivion for various reasons. Something supposedly impossible if you're a RPG fan. But here I am, sitting on a Fallout3 CE (and the lunchbox and bobblehead were really worth it, but the game was a pile of garbage to me).

[Khayness]

Gegenlicht wrote...

Oh please. People who've liked prior Bioware games won't loathe it, it's safe to assume. It might not be but it'll be solid to say the least.

I don't loathe Awakening, but it's a buggy mess I still couldn't squeeze out 100% gameplay experience. And I have waited for the 1.04 patch to come before I finished it (thats quite a few months after purchase).

[Gegenlicht]

Khayness wrote...

I don't loathe Awakening, but it's a buggy mess I still couldn't squeeze out 100% gameplay experience. And I have waited for the 1.04 patch to come before I finished it (thats quite a few months after purchase).

Awakening is probably the worst thing Bioware has put out to date, ignoring DLC. It also abandoned many Bioware tropes (most importantly the ability to actually talk to your companions unless you clicked on stuff in the vicinity) that I don't think they'll cut from a full game release. A full game would also definitely not be as buggy. The saddest thing about Awakening is that I can see the seeds of a story and elements that could have been amazing if properly implemented. But that'd have cost a lot more money to make.

So yeah, let's just say it's a safe assumption that any full game will not be as bad as Awakening. And if you didn't loathe that, the future looks bright enough, I've just decided. Well hell, I'd offer to buy two copies of DA2 and hold one for you until you decide it's worth playing... I just dread potential shipping costs so you'd have to come to Germany to pick it up.

[Khayness]

Just because I don't hate it, I'm still disappointed and the whole ordeal made me sceptical (especially with the Ultimate Edition out, in hindsight, it would have been better to wait for it, skipping all the fuss about the bugs and the faulty ingame DLC downloading procedures and DLC bugs).

But that is the price you have to pay if you want to "enjoy" the game right away.

Modifié par Khayness, 03 décembre 2010 - 01:57 .

[Gegenlicht]

I'm a bit curious now...



...what DOES make people pre-order games?



I pre-ordered exactly four games in my entire life: DA:O, ME2, Drakensang 2 and now DA2 -- notice a trend or three? I'm normally the kind of guy who waits for a game to reach nice price status and ideally contain all expansions that have followed it. But when I trust the source, and want the CE... I do have the cash, easily, I'm just frugal like that.



(And yes, the Ultimate Edition kinda maybe me swallow a bit, considering the money invested in Awakening and DLC, and the quality of some of the stuff (Darkspawn Chronicgwruiwejitrwehjtrweh

[Maria Caliban]

Gegenlicht wrote...
I loathe both Fallout 3 and Oblivion for various reasons. Something supposedly impossible if you're a RPG fan.

You're on a BioWare forum. Saying you dislike Bethesda games is assumed until you tell us otherwise.

FO 3 and Oblivion even use the same engine. That's like saying you dislike both Baldur's Gate and Icewind Dale.

Modifié par Maria Caliban, 03 décembre 2010 - 02:11 .

[upsettingshorts]

I don't typically preorder games unless I am confident that I'll enjoy it on some level - even if it ultimately falls short of my highest expectations, there are rewards I deem worthwhile, or if it's an extremely popular console title and I want to have it on release day. Granted, that last one I haven't had an issue with in a while, but getting the newest NCAA football or basketball game without a preorder on launch day when you're living in a college town isn't easy.

...never bought a CE for the trinkets though.

Modifié par Upsettingshorts, 03 décembre 2010 - 02:24 .

[Gegenlicht]

Maria Caliban wrote...

FO 3 and Oblivion even use the same engine. That's like saying you dislike both Baldur's Gate and Icewind Dale.

For one, I've seen quite a few people come out and proclaim their love for both games on here, and I don't spend enough time here to have noticed any peculiar hate towards Bethesda games. As for them using the same graphics engine, I can live with a game being ugly. DA:O wasn't exactly all that pretty to look at either. Just a different kind of not pretty.

What I disliked about the games were things like the actual way stories were presented and most of all the actual gameplay. Oblivion had the most counter-intuitive levelling system you could imagine. It actually enticed you to specialize in skills you wouldn't use because otherwise you levelled too fast and enemies got too tough too quickly. What were they smoking when they came up with that? Fallout 3 suffered from similar probems as parts of ME1. Skill-based shooters are a nice idea on paper but they have some problems. If I line up a perfect shot but it goes wide by a mile cause I failed a skill roll, it may make sense from a mechanics point of view, but it's poison for immersiveness. And VATS felt too easy in turn because it made the shooter aspects superfluous, especially with the ability to exactly target bodyparts.

I also felt that Fallout 3 in particular suffered from the open world approach. It was way too easy to wander off and quickly find yourself in over your head when you ran into the first Super Mutant with nothing but a pistol and your BB gun, or reach places you were obviously not meant to reach from the way storylines in the game were structured. Persistent open worlds simply suffer from this problem; you could of course only spawn story-relevant characters when there is incentive to meet/fight them. Which works in a densely populated environment such as the GTA games. In a nuclear wasteland it makes less sense for someone to simply pop up in an area you depopulated mere hours ago. In other words, neither is perfect, and both work against immersion.


And on the side, I did actually dislike Icewind Dale compared to BG. But mostly cause it felt much more like a pure slasher with a thinner story than BG. Might have just been my impression of course.

[HopHazzard]

I usually don't pre-order unless a game I want is highly anticipated and I can't be sure it won't sell out before I can get to the store after work. In this case, I pre-ordered because there was going to be extra content and I intended to buy it on release day anyway, so why not?

[Nerevar-as]

Only preorder if I´m afraid of sell out. With game prices, I usually wait for a drop. If I expect DLC and the CE isn´t interesting I wait for GotY, as is the case with DA2.