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[Aermas]

Dust Town is not equal to Lowtown

Neither is Diamond District equal to Hightown



They have much more imagery involved with their names.

[Dave of Canada]

Aermas wrote...

Dust Town is not equal to Lowtown
Neither is Diamond District equal to Hightown

They have much more imagery involved with their names.

I don't see how, considering Hightown and Lowtown essentially represent the same thing.
Who lives in Hightown? The highborn.
Who lives in Lowtown? The lowest of the low.

[namedforthemoon]

Makes me wonder if there's a Middletown.

[Aermas]

Who lives in the Gold District?

What goes on is Silver Square?

These are more thought provoking



Hightown means it's high up, maybe the rich live there maybe they don't

[Tiax Rules All]

Dave of Canada wrote...

For example: My entire area is named West (-classified-) because it's in the West, move to the east and you've got the same name but it's East (-classified-). We're still the same area, we're just classified differently. It doesn't need anything special to split us up, why does Kirkwall?

East Coolsville and West Coolsville are still better then East Town and West Town, see the diff? I do..

I just dont think they are very cool names ok? Do they NEED to be changed no, of course not. am I not gonna buy the game? no of course not.

[Piecake]

Aermas wrote...

Who lives in the Gold District?
What goes on is Silver Square?
These are more thought provoking

Hightown means it's high up, maybe the rich live there maybe they don't

its been stated that the rich live in hightown and the poor live in lowtown

[Snoteye]

leonia42 wrote...

I'm quite fond of Jane the Redhaired.

I'm quite fond of Jane's red hair.

Dave of Canada wrote...

Right. Because towns have never named things about their position, nope. Never. It should all sound like fantasy names that are made up on the spot. Why not call Hightown jnfswea- uhfbsawe-ukfbarsek-bhaeb Quarter?

Just because it's not only realistic but also highly plausible doesn't make them good names. They're not good names. Appropriate, but not good. Dust Town was an interesting name for a poor-man's quarter despite the justification being the same. "Hightown" and "Lowtown" sound like bland propaganda. NWN's "Beggar's District" isn't a good name either.

[Dave of Canada]

Aermas wrote...

Who lives in the Gold District?
What goes on is Silver Square?
These are more thought provoking

Right.

And how about:
Chinatown?
Japantown?
Koreatown?
Thai Town?
Cambodia Town?
(I could go on)

They represent the people, you hear the name and immediately it springs foward the idea of the people located there. Not everything has to be thought provoking, not everything has to be "special". It doesn't make Hightown or Lowtown bad names because YOU dislike it, it's probably grounded more to reality. For somebody that argues for realism everywhere, you should take that in consideration.

[Dave of Canada]

Tiax Rules All wrote...

East Coolsville and West Coolsville are still better then East Town and West Town, see the diff? I do..

Actually, we're classified as West (name of the lake where the town is built next to) and East (name of the lake...). It's different than being "West New York" and "East New York".

[Leonia]

There's really no point in complaining about the names, they're already set in stone. I kind of like how "normal" they are. Not everything has to be super descriptive and over-the-top.

Around here we say North Sydney and South Sydney (or Southwestern, depending on your suburb). It's not fancy but it gives you a good idea where someone lives nonetheless.

Modifié par leonia42, 04 décembre 2010 - 08:37 .

[Tiax Rules All]

way to totally make a point about boring names dave, sometimes I just do get it..



why must you argue so strongly for dull names? oh well, you can have it... ive debated too much here already..

[Leonia]

I don't think it's so much that Dave is advocating dull names as pointing out that everyone who is complaining about the Hightown and Lowtown is being a bit overdramatic and silly.

[Aermas]

You are listing things like China Town & Little Italy that need those kind of descriptions. & it is more realistic to name something that is important, like the districts of a City-State, something important & unique.

[Dave of Canada]

Tiax Rules All wrote...

why must you argue so strongly for dull names?

Because having things being special for the sake of being special irritates me. When I walk into an area that's essentially the slums, I don't want it to be known as something like "Waste Graveyard" or "Slums of the Beradea'lois" for the sake of having a special name. Normal stuff works in fantasy and is rarely explored as everybody tries to go "Hey, I'm special!".

[Brockololly]

David Gaider wrote...
Actually, I'd say the in-game Hightown matches the concept art quite closely.

I guess I'll have to take your word for it- I'm mostly just referring to the lighting and details you see in the concept art that always seem absent in the full game- like the dynamic lighting, the atmospheric shadows, the sort of griminess and dirt built up on the walls and how the banners/tarps look like they're maybe blowing a bit, the birds flying and how the ground looks a bit damp.

Its that sort of stuff that I feel like is always missing from the in game setting as opposed to the concept art.

Modifié par Brockololly, 04 décembre 2010 - 08:56 .

[Shadow Warior]

Hightown looks great, I think I know now why Hawke becomes the champion

[Dave of Canada]

Aermas wrote...

You are listing things like China Town & Little Italy that need those kind of descriptions.

And you're telling me Lowtown and Hightown don't need those types of descriptions? They are different people, different culture and represent something different amongst both. Just like how Chinatown represents the people that live there, the culture and such.

& it is more realistic to name something that is important, like the
districts of a City-State, something important & unique.

The Vatican has names like Old Gardens, New Gardens and Saint Peter's Square. They represent the area or a landmark, how is this any different than naming it High or Lowtown after the people?

[_purifico_]

Kinda looks like Assassins's Creed II. Which is a good thing.

[Aermas]

Saint Peter's Square is more dynamic than say, Market Square, or Village Commons

[Anarya]

I favor the "dull" names because I think it lends authenticity to this created place. I don't think every single location in Kirkwall should have similar names, but a nice mix of simple and not-simple is good, and is what you find in real cities.



Besides I get annoyed when every single place name in an IP is a long nigh-unpronounceable fantasy-ish name.

[Aermas]

_purifico_ wrote...

Kinda looks like Assassins's Creed II. Which is a bad thing.

Fixed it for ya;)
I thought the new art style was to separate Dragon Age with all the other games?

[Dave of Canada]

Aermas wrote...

Saint Peter's Square is more dynamic than say, Market Square, or Village Commons

And that's a small area of the Vatican, just like how we'll have more dynamic areas in Kirkwall as well. In general, large areas are named for something that it represents. Oldtown, Trade District and such.

[Aermas]

Anarya wrote...

I favor the "dull" names because I think it lends authenticity to this created place. I don't think every single location in Kirkwall should have similar names, but a nice mix of simple and not-simple is good, and is what you find in real cities.

Besides I get annoyed when every single place name in an IP is a long nigh-unpronounceable fantasy-ish name.

A mix would be great, I don't need the bathrooms called The Wizz-Ard's Latrine or anything, but to differentiate between two really important places is important, instead of saying you take the high road & I'll take the low road

[Maria Caliban]

I don't favor the dull names. But suggesting they've changed the naming scheme because people couldn't handle fantasy names like 'the Dust District' or 'Ferelden' is up there with suggesting the government puts fluoride in the water to lower men's sperm count.

[Anarya]

Aermas wrote...

Anarya wrote...

I favor the "dull" names because I think it lends authenticity to this created place. I don't think every single location in Kirkwall should have similar names, but a nice mix of simple and not-simple is good, and is what you find in real cities.

Besides I get annoyed when every single place name in an IP is a long nigh-unpronounceable fantasy-ish name.

A mix would be great, I don't need the bathrooms called The Wizz-Ard's Latrine or anything, but to differentiate between two really important places is important, instead of saying you take the high road & I'll take the low road

But you're judging the naming by only 3 named areas that we know of. Don't you think that's a little premature?