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[Aermas]

The Gallows are as generic as hightown. It is clearly a place of death, Gallows means the stage where a hangman hangs you.

[Anarya]

That doesn't contradict my point. You only know of 3 area names so far.

Besides how is The Gallows any more or less "generic" than St. Peter's Square?

Modifié par Anarya, 04 décembre 2010 - 09:03 .

[Dave of Canada]

Aermas wrote...

The Gallows are as generic as hightown. It is clearly a place of death, Gallows means the stage where a hangman hangs you.

And that was it's ancient meaning, or so we're told. It's named after a historical event in Kirkwall's history, it's unique and it's a landmark in Kirkwall. It's not different from St Peter's.

Edit: BEATEN BY ANARYA

Modifié par Dave of Canada, 04 décembre 2010 - 09:05 .

[Anarya]

[Esbatty]

Where I currently live it used to be all part of Mexico, then it up and half of the city became part of the US. So they split the town, since its cut down the middle by a natural boundary of the Rio Grande River into Laredo (on the US side) and Nuevo Laredo (on the mexico side). So its basically just Laredo and "New" Laredo. So I have no issue with Hightown and Lowtown, okay.

Now Trannytown, thats where the best rouge in all of the Free Marches comes from.

EDIT: ooh, ooh that reminds me - and in Nuevo Laredo there IS a red light district but its whole own walled off section of Nuevo Laredo called "Boystown", it even has its own wiki entry.

Modifié par Esbatty, 04 décembre 2010 - 09:10 .

[Aermas]

Anarya wrote...

That doesn't contradict my point. You only know of 3 area names so far.

Besides how is The Gallows any more or less "generic" than St. Peter's Square?

The gallows are named the gallows because that is their actual name.

Saint Peter's Square a name that shows possessiveness so you wonder why does this person mentioned in this square? Also he is a Saint so that beings in religious queries & such.

Yes I know of three places that are generic, but when you look at it as Three out of Three, it gets a little aggravating

[Johnny Chaos]

screw gallows kirkwall needs guillotines

[Anarya]

Aermas wrote...

Anarya wrote...

That doesn't contradict my point. You only know of 3 area names so far.

Besides how is The Gallows any more or less "generic" than St. Peter's Square?

The gallows are named the gallows because that is their actual name.

Saint Peter's Square a name that shows possessiveness so you wonder why does this person mentioned in this square? Also he is a Saint so that beings in religious queries & such.

Yes I know of three places that are generic, but when you look at it as Three out of Three, it gets a little aggravating

Um, but there aren't any gallows there anymore.

And St. Peter's Square is named that because it's located in front of St. Peter's Basilica. So again, really no more or less creative. You're kind of grasping at straws here.

I sort of understand where you're coming from with the 3/3 being boring to you, but I still think it's premature.

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[Aermas]

Anarya wrote...

Aermas wrote...

Anarya wrote...

That doesn't contradict my point. You only know of 3 area names so far.

Besides how is The Gallows any more or less "generic" than St. Peter's Square?

The gallows are named the gallows because that is their actual name.

Saint Peter's Square a name that shows possessiveness so you wonder why does this person mentioned in this square? Also he is a Saint so that beings in religious queries & such.

Yes I know of three places that are generic, but when you look at it as Three out of Three, it gets a little aggravating

Um, but there aren't any gallows there anymore.

And St. Peter's Square is named that because it's located in front of St. Peter's Basilica. So again, really no more or less creative. You're kind of grasping at straws here.

I sort of understand where you're coming from with the 3/3 being boring to you, but I still think it's premature.

Interesting, I thought it was your argument that was grasping at straws,
I know where the square is, it makes in no less uniquely named. Would it be so iconic if it was called The Porch?
No it would not

[Sir JK]

As others have pointed out, the names of High and Low town are very realistic and very organic. People name locations after their most distinctive features or more rarely in honour of something. Hightown, being located higher up and populated by the highborn is thus a perfect name. As is lowtown, being located lower than the rest of the city and populated by the lowly born. Distinctive, descriptive and memorable names.



You see them all over the real world too.

Stockholm, my home city, means Island of logs. Used to describe how it was defended by wooden stakes in the water. It's central districts being Gamla Stan (Old town, oldest part of the city), Norrmalm and Södermalm (northern and southern suburb, respectively), Kungsholmen (Island of the King, representing it was the kings personal property before being sold to the city), Riddarholmen (Island of the knights, guess where the "house of nobles" is located?), Skeppsholmen (Island of ships, where the royal wharf was located).



It's prominent in other cities as well. Rome had the Forum Romanum ("where romans meet") being the central square in the imperial era. Saint Peters Square because it's next to Saint Peters Basilica (and Saint Peters church before that). Similarily Piazza de San Marco in Venice... Place of Saint Mark, right next to the original church of... saint Mark.



Acropolis in Athens. Acro meaning High/heights and Polis meaning city (so it could be Hightown ). Amusingly enough located above the city



York, comes from the norse Yorvik (or somesuch) meaning bay of the kings. It was the seat of the norse king's power in england and where he landed with his ships.



Edinburgh, burgh being scottish/germanic for city and Edin being the name of the tribe originally living there.



Fact is... we humans don't give places fantastic names. Every name means something that's supposed to make anyone familiar with it know exactly where it is. This because for a long time... noone could read a map. So you'd have to inituitively know where it was to be located. High up for instance.

[Johnny Chaos]

New England, yea the British were real original there......

[Alexia89]

Maybe you get a house in lowtown for the first few years then move into a nicer house every few time skips? Would be nice.

[Johnny Chaos]

I want a yawt

[Piecake]

Beijing - North Capital

Nanjing - South Capital

Tokyo - East Capital



Now thats what you call generically descriptive

[Maria Caliban]

To add to the list:
Portland <- Where I was born
Las Vegas (The Valleys) <- Where I live now
Around me is Red Rock, Black Mountain, South Point, and North Las Vegas.

Alexia89 wrote...

Maybe you get a house in lowtown for the first few years then move into a nicer house every few time skips? Would be nice.

This is what I'm hoping.

Johnny Chaos wrote...

I want a yawt

I'm on a boat.

Modifié par Maria Caliban, 04 décembre 2010 - 09:54 .

[Aermas]

Piecake makes a good point, let them be called Hightown & Lowtown, but why not in a different language so that it's a bit richer & show the history of Kirkwall & how so many different people influenced it's towns & districts

[Sir JK]

What says they aren't Aermas, remember that we get the local language translated to english for our benefit as players. Hightown might actually be named "Hoegstadt" (faux-germanic) or somesuch

[GodWood]

Piecake wrote...
Beijing - North Capital
Nanjing - South Capital
Tokyo - East Capital

Now thats what you call generically descriptive

I dunno about Beijing and Nanjing, but Tokyo's previous name was Edo which meant estuary.
Thats not quite as generic.

Modifié par GodWood, 04 décembre 2010 - 10:00 .

[Piecake]

Aermas wrote...

Piecake makes a good point, let them be called Hightown & Lowtown, but why not in a different language so that it's a bit richer & show the history of Kirkwall & how so many different people influenced it's towns & districts

that wasnt the point I was making.

[Johnny Chaos]

Maria Caliban wrote...

To add to the list:
Portland <- Where I was born
Las Vegas (The Valleys) <- Where I live now
Around me is Red Rock, Black Mountain, South Point, and North Las Vegas.

Alexia89 wrote...

Maybe you get a house in lowtown for the first few years then move into a nicer house every few time skips? Would be nice.

This is what I'm hoping.

Johnny Chaos wrote...

I want a yawt

I'm on a boat.

only if i can turn into an airplane ab]nd bomb the russians, like a boss

[Aermas]

Sir JK wrote...

What says they aren't Aermas, remember that we get the local language translated to english for our benefit as players. Hightown might actually be named "Hoegstadt" (faux-germanic) or somesuch

then why don't they translate Arashok into Warchief?
or Kal Hirrol into whatever it means in Dwarven into English?

[Sir JK]

Aermas wrote...
then why don't they translate Arashok into Warchief?
or Kal Hirrol into whatever it means in Dwarven into English?

Local language.
From our characters perspective Arishok and Kal-Hirol respectively are both derived from foreign languages (qunari and dwarven).

Similarily, some names are really old and thus cannot be understood by those living there anymore. Like Denerim or Ostagar.

But all "recent" names gets translated if the meaning is understood by the inhabitants.

[Aermas]

Sir JK wrote...

Aermas wrote...
then why don't they translate Arashok into Warchief?
or Kal Hirrol into whatever it means in Dwarven into English?

Local language.
From our characters perspective Arishok and Kal-Hirol respectively are both derived from foreign languages (qunari and dwarven).

Similarily, some names are really old and thus cannot be understood by those living there anymore. Like Denerim or Ostagar.

But all "recent" names gets translated if the meaning is understood by the inhabitants.

Places have history, & Kirkwall has been owned my many people & is old as the Tevinter Imperium which is more than a thousand years ago, not everything should or would be translated into "local" language. Look at how Old English turned into present day english

[Leonia]

Aermas wrote...

Sir JK wrote...

Aermas wrote...
then why don't they translate Arashok into Warchief?
or Kal Hirrol into whatever it means in Dwarven into English?

Local language.
From our characters perspective Arishok and Kal-Hirol respectively are both derived from foreign languages (qunari and dwarven).

Similarily, some names are really old and thus cannot be understood by those living there anymore. Like Denerim or Ostagar.

But all "recent" names gets translated if the meaning is understood by the inhabitants.

Places have history, & Kirkwall has been owned my many people & is old as the Tevinter Imperium which is more than a thousand years ago, not everything should or would be translated into "local" language. Look at how Old English turned into present day english

Not eveyrthing in Thedas has a real-world equivalent, Aermas, I think that is something you and most of the arguments you make on the forums have a hard time grasping and why so many of us have a hard time getting you to understand other viewpoints.