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[282xvl]

Who agrees that the since the Alliance now heads up the citadel's defense force it should build a flagship worthy of this duty? For those who blew up the D.A. it would be a replacement command ship and council-evac/continuity of gov't platform. For those who saved the D.A. it would be Humanity satisfying its ever-present desire to keep up with (and surpass) the galactic Jones' (and penis envy.)

I support the inclusion of an Alliance Superdreadnaught to lead the fleet against the Reapers. At some point it should be boarded and Shepard should dock the Normandy with it to repel said boarding action for an added bit of cool. But I'd be satisfied with just seeing humanity produce galactic-class flagship for the final fleet battle.

(There WILL be a final fleet battle. It has been said and said and said enough times that The People will NOT stand for a "virus" or other deus ex machina ending! Heads will roll, tesitcles WILL meet electrodes. )

[Zulu_DFA]

I support Shepard saying "penis" in ME3.

(That's how we'll defeat the Reapers.)

[Mr Zoat]

I'd rather have the two or three carriers which you would get for the same cost.

[Bio Addict]

I'm just guessing here but I imagine the Alliance fleet will probably act as a "default army" that every Shepard gets access to regardless of the choices he's made in the past. Other Shepard's could also have a Krogan army, the Turian fleet(if you saved the Council in ME1), the Rachnni, or Cerberus(if you gave them the Collector base)

[General User]

The Destiny Ascension didn’t exactly cloak itself in glory at the Battle of the Citadel.



I agree with Mr Zoat, if the Alliance builds new capital ships they should be carriers.

[Luigitornado]

Zulu_DFA wrote...

I support Shepard saying "penis" in ME3.
(That's how we'll defeat the Reapers.)

Do you consider yourself funny?

[lovgreno]

A lot of smaller ships and carriers seems more like the Alliances style. Some Asari, Salarian and Turian dreadnaughts coming to back up the Alliance would be very cool though. Better keep good relations with the Council or you may fight alone.



But if you kept the Collector base it will probably just be the old cliché of uploading the reaper killer deus ex machina virus TIMmy found in the base.

[Sir Ulrich Von Lichenstien]

Mr Zoat wrote...

I'd rather have the two or three carriers which you would get for the same cost.

That sounds familiar, isn't that what the Alliance person says to Shep in ME (the one that wanted to inspect the Normandy, forgot his name now).

[AngusJimiKeith]

Ya know, the Japanese tried the same thing in World War II. Both the Yamato and Musashi ended up on the bottom of the ocean after being relentlessly pounded by torpedo- and dive-bombers.



Carriers ftw.



granted, anything we send against the reapers would be good as long as it carried nuclear weapons. yes, nukes...It sort of IS a deus ex machina, but at the same time, you still need something to launch said nukes.

[Inquisitor Recon]

If they can make a main gun that can punch through a reaper in one shot, why not?

[AngusJimiKeith]

see, launching a much smaller and lighter nuke that can fit onto a craft that can fly circles around the reaper and dodge its weapons would be just as effective, if not more so.



the thing im getting at with nukes is twofold:

1) nukes are heat-based. all that destruction is caused by immense heat. this would nullify the kinetic barriers, and, more importantly, melt away the outer hull, removing any electromagnetic shielding, allowing for part two....

2) EMP. all nukes put one out, and it wreaks havoc on anything electronic ie synthetic life. better yet, unlike CoD would make us believe, the results of an emp do not go away after 2 minnutes or something. they are permanent. circuitry is FRIED.



if this doesnt destroy the reapers, nothing will.

[Marzillius]

I saved the Council. I don't want the Alliance to be the dominant military race. I do not support this idea.



A Superdreadnought should be a joint venture by many races, not by one.

[Shepard needs a Vacation]

maybe you'll get a super ship if you saved the collector base and get some particle super beam the collector ship.

[Sir Ulrich Von Lichenstien]

AngusJimiKeith wrote...

see, launching a much smaller and lighter nuke that can fit onto a craft that can fly circles around the reaper and dodge its weapons would be just as effective, if not more so.



the thing im getting at with nukes is twofold:

1) nukes are heat-based. all that destruction is caused by immense heat. this would nullify the kinetic barriers, and, more importantly, melt away the outer hull, removing any electromagnetic shielding, allowing for part two....

2) EMP. all nukes put one out, and it wreaks havoc on anything electronic ie synthetic life. better yet, unlike CoD would make us believe, the results of an emp do not go away after 2 minnutes or something. they are permanent. circuitry is FRIED.



if this doesnt destroy the reapers, nothing will.

Yup I say we take off, nuke the Reapers from orbit... only way to be sure.

[Locutus_of_BORG]

^Exactly what I was thinking.



Or possibly a human Reaper with TIM's face, superman-ing across the galaxy.

[Sinapus]

So, they need a Spaceball One?

More seriously, in this universe, would a massively huge ship be feasible or not?

Mind you, I'm a big fan of the Honor Harrington series, so squadrons of superdreadnoughts forming a wall of battle and blasting Reapers with a fusilade of mass driver rounds... or one of Weber's Macross Manticoran (...and Havenite) Missile Massacres does have its appeal. But that series has a different universe and technology so it may not apply here.

[lovgreno]

Marzillius wrote...

I saved the Council. I don't want the Alliance to be the dominant military race. I do not support this idea.

A Superdreadnought should be a joint venture by many races, not by one.

If the council races pooled together they could probably create one heck of a concentration of ass kicking in one ship. Add to that the political value of showing the benefits of interracial cooperation. And why not invite krogans, quarians and even batarians to make a small contribution. A olive branch is definitely needed there to unify all against the reapers. Geth shields would be nice but that would sadly not be possible politicaly.

But with a all human Council I don't see how a project like this would ever be possible.

[thompsmt]

This isn't the Honorverse. The idea of a gargantuan ship on the idea of it being cool doesn't quite sound right.



Having a couple of smaller platforms would be more survivable, and provide a similar, if not greater, level of firepower.

[Zulu_DFA]

Luigitornado wrote...

Zulu_DFA wrote...

I support Shepard saying "penis" in ME3.
(That's how we'll defeat the Reapers.)

Do you consider yourself funny?

Not nearly so funny as the OP. I don't think that the Alliance brass has any "size" issues, so a virus should suffice.

[McBeath]

In response to the OP... yeah, a ship would be cool, though I doubt it would be Alliance(or any other current race for that matter).



The tech just isn't good enough, but you have to wonder what other "relics" are out in the galaxy, perhaps hidden away. The platform that disabled the IFF Reaper is an example, but what about a ship? Perhaps Prothean?



I can see that being something that a team of commado's like Shepard and company could search for. Maybe the Reapers allies know it's there and are trying to stop Shepard from getting it. Maybe the Protheans worked on more than the conduit? Something like that would be cool.

[Shepard needs a Vacation]

But really the what we need to fight the reapers is a evasive force, we don't even know how much fire power its gonna take to bring down the kinetic barriers of a reaper(sovereign's barriers went down after you defeated his avatar in Saren) like i said before the collector base it the key, i can feel that new weapons will be unlocked and simply just mounting them on existing ships will be the key to victory,granted a bigger ship can take more hits, medium sized ships with superior firepower and faster maneuverability will wind the fight.

[AdmiralCheez]

Big ship = big target. You get more bang for your buck building smaller, more functional ships. I also support nuking the crap out of the Reapers, as that level of radiation is small cookies in space. Then again, if a Mass Relay can survive a supernova relatively unscathed, and Reapers are made of the same stuff... eh. Nuke 'em anyway. Big explosions are fun.

[FoxShadowblade]

lovgreno wrote...

If the council races pooled together they could probably create one heck of a concentration of ass kicking in one ship. Add to that the political value of showing the benefits of interracial cooperation. And why not invite krogans, quarians and even batarians to make a small contribution. A olive branch is definitely needed there to unify all against the reapers. Geth shields would be nice but that would sadly not be possible politicaly.

But with a all human Council I don't see how a project like this would ever be possible.

You don't want Krogan or Batarians.
Why?

Krogan - "When was the last time you saw a Krogan scientist?", Wrex. Krogan simply have nothing to contribute to a ship.

Batarians - Can't be trusted, they would try to sabotage the other races somehow.

[AngusJimiKeith]

AdmiralCheez wrote...

Big ship = big target. You get more bang for your buck building smaller, more functional ships. I also support nuking the crap out of the Reapers, as that level of radiation is small cookies in space. Then again, if a Mass Relay can survive a supernova relatively unscathed, and Reapers are made of the same stuff... eh. Nuke 'em anyway. Big explosions are fun.

meh...the mass relays are also alot bigger. i could definately see a reaper melting under the heat created by a nuclear blast.

and someone who supports my theory!

[McBeath]

AngusJimiKeith wrote...

meh...the mass relays are also alot bigger. i could definately see a reaper melting under the heat created by a nuclear blast.
and someone who supports my theory!

Nuke em from the inside, Armeggedon style!  That would be a pretty kick *** mission... to infiltrate and then demo a reaper from the inside out