Ok, now i'm a big bioware fan from baldur's gate 1 like many people here but from seeing gameplay videos () this just looks like a hack n slash game? Now, i don't doubt the story will be good but the combat just looks like button mashing badness :/.
Dragon age 2 looks like DMC/FF
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Posté 04 décembre 2010 - 09:29
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juicychooch wrote...
but the combat just looks like button mashing badness :/.
Not in my opinion, it just looks more responsive............ next?
Modifié par Ulous, 04 décembre 2010 - 09:34 .
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Posté 04 décembre 2010 - 09:38
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*pulls out his hair and repeatedly smashes his head into the table*
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Posté 04 décembre 2010 - 09:39
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shepard_lives wrote...
*pulls out his hair and repeatedly smashes his head into the table*
I think you will find this is a serious thread for serious people.
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Posté 04 décembre 2010 - 09:41
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shepard_lives wrote...
*pulls out his hair and repeatedly smashes his head into the table*
It's best if you just shave it bald until March and install table padding. Otherwise, you're going to end up in serious pain.
juicychooch wrote...
Ok, now i'm a big bioware fan from baldur's gate 1 like many people here but from seeing gameplay videos () this just looks like a hack n slash game? Now, i don't doubt the story will be good but the combat just looks like button mashing badness :/.
1. That's a demo of console play, not PC play.
2. Dragon Age 2 has a framed narrative. The first part is an exaggerated story being told about you. Regular combat is much harder.
3. There is still auto-attack, pause, a large selection of spells and abilities, nd a zoom out camera (though no overhead view). The PC version plays much like Origins, only the combat is more responsive.
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Posté 04 décembre 2010 - 09:42
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Ulous wrote...
shepard_lives wrote...
*pulls out his hair and repeatedly smashes his head into the table*
I think you will find this is a serious thread for serious people.
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Posté 04 décembre 2010 - 09:42
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Maria Caliban wrote...
It's best if you just shave it bald until March and install table padding. Otherwise, you're going to end up in serious pain.
That does depend on where he is pulling the hair from.
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Posté 04 décembre 2010 - 09:53
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Why is everyone saying the PC will be better? I'm a console player myself, & I'm down right terrified that DA2 will adopt JRPG elements.
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Posté 04 décembre 2010 - 10:00
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I'm more perturbed that the OP seems to be under the impression that Final Fantasy is a hack n' slash game. I take offense on behalf of hack n' slash games everywhere.
Unless, of course, he meant some other famous game series with the initials "FF." The only other one I can think of is Final Fight.
Unless, of course, he meant some other famous game series with the initials "FF." The only other one I can think of is Final Fight.
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Posté 04 décembre 2010 - 10:03
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DMC is a hack and slash game. Final fantasy is a game where you run around with giant swords swinging with ease and take hits from swords in skirts (companions being dressed in normal clothes fighting a dragon)
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Posté 04 décembre 2010 - 10:07
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juicychooch wrote...
DMC is a hack and slash game. Final fantasy is a game where you run around with giant swords swinging with ease and take hits from swords in skirts (companions being dressed in normal clothes fighting a dragon)
Isabela much? Is she part of some foreign exchange character program?
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Posté 04 décembre 2010 - 10:08
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juicychooch wrote...
Final fantasy is a game where you run around with giant swords swinging with ease and take hits from swords in skirts (companions being dressed in normal clothes fighting a dragon)
Wow, that is your synopsis of the whole Final Fantasy series? The dedication and thought that went into this was legendary.
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Posté 04 décembre 2010 - 10:10
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Aermas wrote...
Why is everyone saying the PC will be better? I'm a console player myself, & I'm down right terrified that DA2 will adopt JRPG elements.
Hack and slash gameplay is not an JRPG element. Diablo was the first 'hack and slash' RPG. If you're taking about characters wearing one outfit... there's already a thread about that, yes?
That said, the PC version will be better because they spent five years developing the engine exclusively for the PC and one year porting it to consoles for DA:O. Now they've had one extra year, but they've spent a great deal of time on the graphics (PC owners will benefit more from that) and responsiveness (not just talking the animations here but the back end), which low to mid end PC users will also probably benefit more from.
Console users get... an updated interface and AI improvements that PC gamers already had.
Zarathiel wrote...
I'm more perturbed that the OP seems to be under the impression that Final Fantasy is a hack n' slash game. I take offense on behalf of hack n' slash games everywhere.
Unless, of course, he meant some other famous game series with the initials "FF." The only other one I can think of is Final Fight.
As I understand it, the 'tactics' system in DA:O that people were so fond of was taken from RPGs, not sure if they were FF though.
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Posté 04 décembre 2010 - 10:16
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Ulous wrote...
juicychooch wrote...
Final fantasy is a game where you run around with giant swords swinging with ease and take hits from swords in skirts (companions being dressed in normal clothes fighting a dragon)
Wow, that is your synopsis of the whole Final Fantasy series? The dedication and thought that went into this was legendary.
I forgot to add cement hair
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Posté 04 décembre 2010 - 10:16
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Alright, that makes more sense. Your opening post made it seem like hack n' slashiness was your only problem.
To be fair though, femHawke's sword is not much larger than a standard 2h sword would be in real life. And as long as it retains all the typical RPG features such as good story, dialogue, party tactics, and character depth, I don't mind them making the combat a bit more like hack n' slash games. Combat tends to be something those games do well. It just gets repetitive, because that's all they have to offer.
DAO's combat system was nice, but tended to get a bit boring for rogues and warriors, especially in the early to mid levels. Speeding it up and making it a bit more flashy won't hurt.
To be fair though, femHawke's sword is not much larger than a standard 2h sword would be in real life. And as long as it retains all the typical RPG features such as good story, dialogue, party tactics, and character depth, I don't mind them making the combat a bit more like hack n' slash games. Combat tends to be something those games do well. It just gets repetitive, because that's all they have to offer.
DAO's combat system was nice, but tended to get a bit boring for rogues and warriors, especially in the early to mid levels. Speeding it up and making it a bit more flashy won't hurt.
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Posté 04 décembre 2010 - 10:17
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Aren't JRPGs primarily turn based?Aermas wrote...
Why is everyone saying the PC will be better? I'm a console player myself, & I'm down right terrified that DA2 will adopt JRPG elements.
How is more 'hack n slash' making it more 'JRPGish'?
Modifié par GodWood, 04 décembre 2010 - 10:18 .
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Posté 04 décembre 2010 - 10:20
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Oh so I see this thread takes random video game mashups and compares them to Dragon Age 2. Okay I think I can do this - I must use at least half of my ass - no no, all of my ass.
*turns on seat warmer*
Alright Dragon Age 2 looks like: Viewtiful Joe/Pong
nah I can do better than that.
Dragon Age 2 looks like: Grand Theft Auto 2/ Cooking Mama
pfft, *ahem*
Dragon Age 2 looks like: Barbie Horse Adventures/ Zork: The Nemesis
Ah yeah, I am now quite satisfied.
*turns on seat warmer*
Alright Dragon Age 2 looks like: Viewtiful Joe/Pong
nah I can do better than that.
Dragon Age 2 looks like: Grand Theft Auto 2/ Cooking Mama
pfft, *ahem*
Dragon Age 2 looks like: Barbie Horse Adventures/ Zork: The Nemesis
Ah yeah, I am now quite satisfied.
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Posté 04 décembre 2010 - 10:21
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Why is everyone assuming I'm talking about Hack N' Slash games. I said JRPG's & I meant JRPG's
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Posté 04 décembre 2010 - 10:22
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Dragon Age 2 looks like Gauntlet/Secret of Mana.
Better?
Better?
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Posté 04 décembre 2010 - 10:23
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Hack and slash games are light on story and very heavy on combat. In most H&S games today you can dodge, duck, dip, dive, dodge your way out of attacks. Not so with Dragon Age.
Speaking of JRPGs, they tend to have a greater emphasis on tactics than the majority of RPGs and are the most challenging across the board. (The concensus is JRPGS have the hardest boss fights ever).
Speaking of JRPGs, they tend to have a greater emphasis on tactics than the majority of RPGs and are the most challenging across the board. (The concensus is JRPGS have the hardest boss fights ever).
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Posté 04 décembre 2010 - 10:24
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Maria Caliban wrote...
Hack and slash gameplay is not an JRPG element. Diablo was the first 'hack and slash' RPG. If you're taking about characters wearing one outfit... there's already a thread about that, yes?
Rogue says hi. (Diablo and all of its ilk descend from Rogue)
Anyway, so DA2 looks like a fast paced hack and slash and also a turn based RPG... wait, what?
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Posté 04 décembre 2010 - 10:26
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Esbatty wrote...
Oh so I see this thread takes random video game mashups and compares them to Dragon Age 2. Okay I think I can do this - I must use at least half of my ass - no no, all of my ass.
*turns on seat warmer*
I'm glad I wasn't partaking of this spiked eggnog the moment I read that, or it would be all over my monitor and keyboard.
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Posté 04 décembre 2010 - 10:27
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It has elements from them. Alot of them (from what i've seen anyway). I never implied it was turn based.
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Posté 04 décembre 2010 - 10:27
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ErichHartmann wrote...
Hack and slash games are light on story and very heavy on combat. In most H&S games today you can dodge, duck, dip, dive, dodge your way out of attacks. Not so with Dragon Age.
Speaking of JRPGs, they tend to have a greater emphasis on tactics than the majority of RPGs and are the most challenging across the board. (The concensus is JRPGS have the hardest boss fights ever).
Also the Bosses tend to be tentacle monsters or androgenous males or androgenous males that turn into tentacle monsters.
*Awkward Hug 9999 dmg*
